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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 16:52:22 GMT
Just thought i'd mention it. 12 years ago now. Bruce Springsteen wrote an album about it all. The Rising. This is my favourite tune from it. "Empty Sky".
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 11, 2013 16:57:42 GMT
Was going to start a thread mesen mate and can't believe its 12 years ago because can remember the exact place I was at work when someone told me about it.Watched a program on the National Geographic channel the other night about the final phone calls from planes  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 17:08:55 GMT
Cheers Sarge. Good lad. I was in New York in 1998 and actually visited the trade centre site and went up in the lift to the "Windows on the World" restaurant. Still really shocks me to this day and I can remember exactly where I was when I heard too mate.
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Post by adi on Sept 11, 2013 17:20:29 GMT
Went to Florida 10 days after it happened. Didnt think we'd be going. The parks were virtually empty, very bizzare.
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Post by starkiller on Sept 11, 2013 17:44:41 GMT
News report from today.
Not to be seen on the BBC.
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Post by ParaPsych on Sept 11, 2013 17:49:14 GMT
Anyone who believes the conspiracy theories is a retard.
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Post by cartman123 on Sept 11, 2013 18:00:10 GMT
Anyone who believes the conspiracy theories is a retard. Why are they? There are lots of inconsistency with 9/11. The towers falling is the main one. It's idiots like you why governments are so corrupt. Nothing but a sheep mar mate. |
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Post by starkiller on Sept 11, 2013 18:05:31 GMT
Anyone who believes the conspiracy theories is a retard. There's no need for any "conspiracy theories". The anomalies and inconsistencies in the official story speak for themselves. |
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 11, 2013 18:08:29 GMT
Anyone who believes the conspiracy theories is a retard. Or has just done some research. It amazes me at the level of aggression shown towards those who have their doubts - based on some pretty clear evidence - about the US Government's story on 9/11. Watch the video about WTC7. Explain the small hole in the side of the Pentagon that supposedly was hit by a 757. I don't know what happened. But I am very doubtful that the story presented as the truth is actually the truth. It looks like a large proportion of the Americans are also highly sceptical of their government's story. |
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Post by cartman123 on Sept 11, 2013 18:19:25 GMT
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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 11, 2013 18:19:56 GMT
10 years, my God
RIP to all who lost their lives
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 18:47:05 GMT
I went New York in June and went round the 9/11 memorial. What a fantastic place, I don't mean that in a dosrespectful way etc, but I really foun it amazing. The waterfalls are phenomenal. It's a very eery place but one where you can just stand and take a moment to think.
RIP all those that lost there lives
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 11, 2013 19:58:00 GMT
That could all be solved and proved if the CCTV footage were actually released in full. Strange after all these years that the few frames that actually show what hit the Pentagon have remained unavailable to the public. It's like they have something to conceal. RIP to all those who died. |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Sept 11, 2013 20:17:27 GMT
Cheers Sarge. Good lad. I was in New York in 1998 and actually visited the trade centre site and went up in the lift to the "Windows on the World" restaurant. Still really shocks me to this day and I can remember exactly where I was when I heard too mate. No problem mate and that must be a strange feeling knowing that you'd been up the tower so far and then watching it collapse 3 years later  |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 11, 2013 20:29:36 GMT
I was viewing a shitty council house for renting out in Clapgate Crescent Widnes as the story broke.....I ended up watching the news story and completely forgot why I was there. I never bought it in the end. I just walked out, too shocked to speak.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 4:34:55 GMT
Cheers Sarge. Good lad. I was in New York in 1998 and actually visited the trade centre site and went up in the lift to the "Windows on the World" restaurant. Still really shocks me to this day and I can remember exactly where I was when I heard too mate. No problem mate and that must be a strange feeling knowing that you'd been up the tower so far and then watching it collapse 3 years later You're not wrong there at all buddy. Even though I have a very loose connection with events, it still resonates very deeply within me. I don't know about yourself Sarge, but glimpsing just 10 seconds of TV footage of one of the towers collapsing still has the power to stop me dead in my tracks. I've never been fully able to get my head round it.  |
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Post by britsabroad on Sept 12, 2013 5:54:43 GMT
One of the saddest things about 9/11 is that people cant express condolences for 3,000 lives lost without some fucking idiot trying to show us all the Illuminati is real.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2013 6:03:01 GMT
One of the saddest things about 9/11 is that people cant express condolences for 3,000 lives lost without some fucking idiot trying to show us all the Illuminati is real. Who has said that Brit? |
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 12, 2013 8:30:43 GMT
One of the saddest things about 9/11 is that people cant express condolences for 3,000 lives lost without some fucking idiot trying to show us all the Illuminati is real. Who has said that Brit? I think he's referring to the people (me included), while expressing their condolences also highlight their doubts over the current explanation. To me, the biggest dishonour to those who tragically died that sad day would be to not know the truth about how they died. I personally hope the official story is the truth - the alternative is just too shocking to consider. There are unfortunately too many discrepancies and too much evidence to suggest at least further impartial investigation is required. Let's get one thing straight - questioning the official story and highlight significant outstanding questions does not demean peoples respect for the dead. |
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Post by jonah77 on Sept 12, 2013 8:39:07 GMT
I was on the Canadian prairie when the attacks happened and I didn't see any actual footage for weeks.
The airports were obviously shit hot on security on the way back.All mobile phones had to be turned off and if they couldn't be turned back on(if the battery had run out)they were confiscated.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Sept 12, 2013 8:39:38 GMT
My god 12 years really has flown by. I watched the channel 4 doc last week showing all real time footage without any narration. Very harrowing stuff. I was at college in a geography lecture when the news broke and at the time I thought it was just a Cessna or something similar had hit it wasn't until I got home an hour later did I see what had gone on I was only watching for about 20 mins or so before the first tower fell it was so surreal.
As for the conspiracy theories I must admit I'm sceptical of most of them but I must admit having read various theories on line some of the stuff doesn't quite add up.
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Post by serpico on Sept 12, 2013 10:49:50 GMT
They clearly covered something up about 9/11, they never wanted an investigation, and then when they were forced to put one together by persistent victims family members they sought to limit it and hamper it at every turn, but all the "bombs in the buildings" "remote controlled planes" "missile at the pentagon" theories are BS.
I admittedly got sucked in by these theories a few years ago, but a closer look you see most of them are laden with logical fallacies, red herrings and down right craziness, and the risk involved would be too much, you'd need thousands of people to pull it off, it's not credible to think nobody would blow the whistle on a plot like this.
The attacks were genuine, they were carried out by AQ, but how did they manage it ? who funded it all ? (the 9/11 commission didn't think this was very important), how did they evade detection ? why were portions of the 9/11 commission report pertaining to saudi arabia heavily redacted ? what was the role of the mossad agents who were rounded up after 9/11 ? some of whom were literally living next door to some of the hijackers! and how come all the warnings of a coming attack went unheeded ? ie the august PDB warning that bin laden was "determined to strike inside the US".
Pulling off a terror attack the size and scope of 9/11 would be EXTREMELY difficult, did they have state backers ? it's possible the mossad agents were shadowing the hijackers and helping protect them, it's possible they were being bank rolled by some faction of the Saudi regime, all speculation of course, but if that came out it would massively impact the US's relationship with those two countries, better to cover that up and go after Saddam Huessien, a long time target.
Governments lie about everything, so you'd be naive to think on this one issue they're telling the absolute truth.
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Post by wizzardofdribble on Sept 12, 2013 14:52:03 GMT
They clearly covered something up about 9/11, they never wanted an investigation, and then when they were forced to put one together by persistent victims family members they sought to limit it and hamper it at every turn, but all the "bombs in the buildings" "remote controlled planes" "missile at the pentagon" theories are BS. I admittedly got sucked in by these theories a few years ago, but a closer look you see most of them are laden with logical fallacies, red herrings and down right craziness, and the risk involved would be too much, you'd need thousands of people to pull it off, it's not credible to think nobody would blow the whistle on a plot like this. The attacks were genuine, they were carried out by AQ, but how did they manage it ? who funded it all ? (the 9/11 commission didn't think this was very important), how did they evade detection ? why were portions of the 9/11 commission report pertaining to saudi arabia heavily redacted ? what was the role of the mossad agents who were rounded up after 9/11 ? some of whom were literally living next door to some of the hijackers! and how come all the warnings of a coming attack went unheeded ? ie the august PDB warning that bin laden was "determined to strike inside the US". Pulling off a terror attack the size and scope of 9/11 would be EXTREMELY difficult, did they have state backers ? it's possible the mossad agents were shadowing the hijackers and helping protect them, it's possible they were being bank rolled by some faction of the Saudi regime, all speculation of course, but if that came out it would massively impact the US's relationship with those two countries, better to cover that up and go after Saddam Huessien, a long time target. Governments lie about everything, so you'd be naive to think on this one issue they're telling the absolute truth. And what about Uri Gellers role in all this? Is he a Mossad Double-Agent..with AQ 'handlers'? Makes perfect sense |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 12, 2013 14:58:19 GMT
10 years, my God RIP to all who lost their lives or maybe 12 years |
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Post by salopstick on Sept 12, 2013 14:59:02 GMT
I was on the Canadian prairie when the attacks happened and I didn't see any actual footage for weeks. The airports were obviously shit hot on security on the way back.All mobile phones had to be turned off and if they couldn't be turned back on(if the battery had run out)they were confiscated. so was i mate 12 mech bde ex, had to wait til R&R to see the news etc |
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Post by kurtsmu06 on Sept 12, 2013 15:24:05 GMT
You are batshit crazy if you believe in the conspiracy theories. Popular Mechanics wrote a huge piece debunking virtually EVERY "suspicious" detail regarding the collapse of the towers. Take that shit somewhere else.
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Post by jonah77 on Sept 12, 2013 16:25:50 GMT
I was on the Canadian prairie when the attacks happened and I didn't see any actual footage for weeks. The airports were obviously shit hot on security on the way back.All mobile phones had to be turned off and if they couldn't be turned back on(if the battery had run out)they were confiscated. so was i mate 12 mech bde ex, had to wait til R&R to see the news etc I was 12 mech brigade.Were you in 1 Staffords? |
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Post by ukcstokie on Sept 12, 2013 16:38:31 GMT
You are batshit crazy if you believe in the conspiracy theories. Popular Mechanics wrote a huge piece debunking virtually EVERY "suspicious" detail regarding the collapse of the towers. Take that shit somewhere else. I've read a lot of the Popular Mechanic debunking. Some makes sense. Some is just clutching a straws. Just because somebody can provide a response to some evidence doesn't mean that it is credible, sensible or valid. |
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Post by harryburrows on Sept 12, 2013 16:39:37 GMT
Cheers Sarge. Good lad. I was in New York in 1998 and actually visited the trade centre site and went up in the lift to the "Windows on the World" restaurant. Still really shocks me to this day and I can remember exactly where I was when I heard too mate. I used to work for the company that operated windows on the world in fact I ran the windows on the world in London . Very shocking to all involved. I did go up to windows in NY in 1998 you can't conceive how big the footprint was until you went into the lobby . |
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Post by kurtsmu06 on Sept 12, 2013 17:24:39 GMT
Seriously the idiots that maintain the conspiracy theory garbage are either a) uneducated idiots or b) think the lunar landing was staged or c) uneducated idiots who think the lunar landing was staged. There are dumbf*cks in all walks of life. As a great man once said "You can't fix stupid."
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