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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 5, 2013 18:59:06 GMT
1) Begovic
2) Nzonzi
3) Arnatuovic
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Post by lastoftheldk on Sept 5, 2013 19:01:42 GMT
Have you ever seen Arnatuovic play, how can you make that assumption
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Post by jarvinski on Sept 5, 2013 19:06:28 GMT
Begovic
Pennant
Nzonzi
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Post by kitkatkev on Sept 5, 2013 19:08:46 GMT
Pennant (rofl)not even best sub |
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Post by mrpickles on Sept 5, 2013 19:08:56 GMT
1. Begovic
2. Shawcross
3. Huth/N'Zonzi
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Post by madasasnake on Sept 5, 2013 19:09:00 GMT
Begovic,
Shawcross
Nzonzi
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 5, 2013 19:12:52 GMT
1) Begovic
2)Shawcross
3) Nzonzi
Although Shawcross and Nzonzi could be switched around but Begovic 1st
Can't say on Arnautovic or any of the new players really yet
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Post by madasasnake on Sept 5, 2013 19:13:34 GMT
And whilst I appreciate that its a game of opinions and that everybody is entitled to one; I wouldn't have thought that there was much argument about it!  |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Sept 5, 2013 19:17:59 GMT
Shawcross  |
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Post by sjohank on Sept 5, 2013 19:20:07 GMT
Have you ever seen Arnatuovic play, how can you make that assumption Just wait and see, mate  Begovic N'Zonzi Arna utovic |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Sept 5, 2013 19:22:32 GMT
Have you ever seen Arnatuovic play, how can you make that assumption Just wait and see, mate Begovic N'Zonzi Arna utovic I really hope your right |
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 5, 2013 19:23:55 GMT
1) Begovic
2) Shawcross
3) N'Zonzi
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Post by madasasnake on Sept 5, 2013 19:25:44 GMT
Shawcross There obviously is some argument about it! Please enlighten me as to who is better is their position at Stoke than Ryan Shawcross? |
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 5, 2013 19:27:50 GMT
There's something seriously wrong with someone who doesn't consider Ryan Shawcross to be one of our best players.
Still, I must be one of those "sheep" who just follow the evidence before their eyes, rather than a free-thinking visionary with the ability to acknowledge the opposite of what's true.
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 5, 2013 19:35:54 GMT
My top 10
Begovic
Nzonzi
Arnatovic
Wilson
Huth
Adam
Shawcross
Sorenson
Pieters
Whelan
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Post by LphPotter on Sept 5, 2013 19:36:58 GMT
My top 10 Begovic Nzonzi Arnatovic Wilson Huth Adam Shawcross Sorenson Pieters Whelan Is that in order? |
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Post by roylandstoke on Sept 5, 2013 19:40:54 GMT
This one's pretty easy as far as I'm concerned.
Begovic
Shawcross
N'Zonzi
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Sept 5, 2013 19:42:24 GMT
1 - Begovic
2 - N'Zonzi
3 - Shawcross
That's not opinion.
That's fact.
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Post by Davef on Sept 5, 2013 19:44:44 GMT
Pennant (rofl)not even best sub Well he's obviously the best free kick taker at the club. |
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Post by takeshikovacs on Sept 5, 2013 19:48:27 GMT
Begovic
Huth
N'Zonzi
I'd have Huth ahead of Ryan.
Hoping (a) Arnie and (b) Ireland can be pushing for one of these slots soon!
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 5, 2013 19:49:51 GMT
Bego Huth Ryan
Character Character Character
Nzonzi has the potential but has to deliver consistently.
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 5, 2013 19:50:50 GMT
Shawcross I'm confused? Did I miss the joke....or are you a knob? |
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Post by stokiejoe on Sept 5, 2013 19:55:34 GMT
There's something seriously wrong with someone who doesn't consider Ryan Shawcross to be one of our best players. Still, I must be one of those "sheep" who just follow the evidence before their eyes, rather than a free-thinking visionary with the ability to acknowledge the opposite of what's true. One of our best. yes. My top three Bego, Huth, Nzonzi and then Ryan. Nothing wrong with me just a different opinion. Not arrogant enough to dismiss the opinion of those who disagree with me. |
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Post by WorkingclassHero on Sept 5, 2013 19:58:24 GMT
Yes in order, for me Shawcross is the most overrated of our players. As our club has moved on he has been left behind.
He is a good player don't get me wrong but he is what he is. A mid table centre half. When we were one of the worst teams in the prem this made him our best player, now we have a handful of players that are better than him.
All about opinions I guess
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Post by LDE76 on Sept 5, 2013 20:03:20 GMT
There's something seriously wrong with someone who doesn't consider Ryan Shawcross to be one of our best players. Still, I must be one of those "sheep" who just follow the evidence before their eyes, rather than a free-thinking visionary with the ability to acknowledge the opposite of what's true. One of our best. yes. My top three Bego, Huth, Nzonzi and then Ryan. Nothing wrong with me just a different opinion. Not arrogant enough to dismiss the opinion of those who disagree with me. It's not about dismissing opinions. It's about certain posters with agendas who actually labelled people who rate Ryan as "sheep". |
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Sept 5, 2013 20:05:23 GMT
1) Begovic
2) Huth
3) Shawcross
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 5, 2013 20:11:58 GMT
Yes in order, for me Shawcross is the most overrated of our players. As our club has moved on he has been left behind. He is a good player don't get me wrong but he is what he is. A mid table centre half. When we were one of the worst teams in the prem this made him our best player, now we have a handful of players that are better than him. All about opinions I guess I dreamed of the day when I could watch players as professional, talented, focused and dedicated as Ryan Shawcross wearing our shirt with pride. Now the day is here I'll enjoy him while we have him. Impossible to over rate what he has brought, and still brings, to our club. I'll stop now before I stray too far into man crush territory. |
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Post by lordb on Sept 5, 2013 20:12:53 GMT
Yes in order, for me Shawcross is the most overrated of our players. As our club has moved on he has been left behind. He is a good player don't get me wrong but he is what he is. A mid table centre half. When we were one of the worst teams in the prem this made him our best player, now we have a handful of players that are better than him. All about opinions I guess It is indeed I couldn't disagree more. |
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Post by madasasnake on Sept 5, 2013 20:13:21 GMT
There's something seriously wrong with someone who doesn't consider Ryan Shawcross to be one of our best players. Still, I must be one of those "sheep" who just follow the evidence before their eyes, rather than a free-thinking visionary with the ability to acknowledge the opposite of what's true. One of our best. yes. My top three Bego, Huth, Nzonzi and then Ryan. Nothing wrong with me just a different opinion. Not arrogant enough to dismiss the opinion of those who disagree with me. I don't think that LDE was being arrogant StokieJoe. lastoftheldk's mocking response to the suggestion that Shawcross was in the top three suggested that he thought that such a suggestion was comical. He hasn't bothered to answer my question as to who he thinks is better in their position? LDE didn't even say that Ryan was in the top three; he just couldn't believe that somebody would think that he wasn't one of our best players; which you obviously do as you've placed him fourth! I genuinely respect your opinion. However, I really cannot see how you could hold it if you went to Liverpool at home (the season before last?) when Shawcross and Upson kept them out single handedly or Southampton at home last year, when a certain Mr Shawcross was missing! What a catastrophe our defence was that day? Or Genoa. or Liverpool away? Huth is putting immense pressure on Shawcross by his inability to pass; he continually offloads it to Shawcross to deal with. Anyway, you are entitled to your opinion, as is lastoftheldk. I was just asking why he thought the suggestion was so comical. Who is better? Etherington? Walters? Whelan? Crouch? Shotton? Cameron? I could go on! Personally, on a week by week basis over our five years in the Premier League, I would probably put Shawcross first. Yes, Begovic is world class, but he hasn't yet done as much for us as Ryan. |
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Post by mattythestokie on Sept 5, 2013 20:15:15 GMT
1 - Begovic 2 - N'Zonzi 3 - Shawcross That's not opinion. That's fact. 100% |
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