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Post by scfc123 on Aug 29, 2013 9:33:19 GMT
After seeing glimpses of players like Shea, Assaidi, Palacios, Muniesa etc!
If we went into Saturday with no more signing.
What would you Starting 11 be at the weekend?
I'd go
Bego
Cameron Ryan Huth Pieters
Nzonzi Palacios
Adam
Pennant. Jones. Assaidi
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Post by werrington on Aug 29, 2013 9:35:59 GMT
Palacios !!!!!!!
Good god.......he is nowhere near fit enough
He looked about 20% match fit last night
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 29, 2013 9:37:31 GMT
Begovic
Wilson Shawcross Huth Pieters
Muniesa
N'Zonzi Adam
Pennant Jones Assaidi
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Post by scfc123 on Aug 29, 2013 9:37:34 GMT
I would play Wilson but he just seems to be to slow in the centre
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Post by nantwichstokie on Aug 29, 2013 9:38:46 GMT
After seeing glimpses of players like Shea, Assaidi, Palacios, Muniesa etc! If we went into Saturday with no more signing. What would you Starting 11 be at the weekend? I'd go Bego Cameron Ryan Huth Pieters Nzonzi Palacios Adam Pennant. Jones. Assaidi Had a few scoops before the game yesterday?? Palacios over Wilson? WOW. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 29, 2013 9:38:47 GMT
Bego
Cameron (although still not convinced)
Pieters (although Muniesa was good)
Ryan
Huth
N'Zonzi
Adam
Wilson
Pennant
Jones (deserves it after a hat-trick)
Assaidi (we need pace on the break)
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 29, 2013 9:38:57 GMT
Begovic
Wilson Shawcross Huth Pieters
Muniesa
N'Zonzi Adam
Pennant Jones Assaidi
Yeah i think it's worth giving Muniesa a shot in the middle. He's too good a player to leave out. |
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Post by nantwichstokie on Aug 29, 2013 9:40:21 GMT
Bego Cameron (although still not convinced) Pieters (although Muniesa was good) Ryan Huth N'Zonzi Adam Wilson Pennant Jones (deserves it after a hat-trick) Assaidi (we need pace on the break) I would side with this. My only concern would be Assaidi fitness for the full 90? Wouldn't we rather have him on the bench to bring on once the game has opened up... |
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Post by potterpaul on Aug 29, 2013 9:40:51 GMT
Begovic
Wilson Shawcross Huth Pieters
Muniesa
N'Zonzi Adam
Pennant Jones Assaidi
Replace Wilson with Shotton or Cam and I'd be eggstatic |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 29, 2013 9:41:43 GMT
Bego Cameron (although still not convinced) Pieters (although Muniesa was good) Ryan Huth N'Zonzi Adam Wilson Pennant Jones (deserves it after a hat-trick) Assaidi (we need pace on the break) I would side with this. My only concern would be Assaidi fitness for the full 90? Wouldn't we rather have him on the bench to bring on once the game has opened up... Possibly so, you'd hope he isn't too far behind everyone else at this stage of the season though. We could put Matty there and switch later as you suggest. |
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Post by LphPotter on Aug 29, 2013 9:46:00 GMT
Begovic
Cameron
Huth
Ryan
Pieters
Wilson
Adam
Nzonzi
Pennant
Jones
Assaidi
Sorensen Muniesa Walters Crouch Jerome Whelan Etherington
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Post by petepogo on Aug 29, 2013 9:47:01 GMT
BEGO
CAMERON WILSON PIETERS MUNISEA
PENNANT NZONZI ADAM WHELAN (PALACIOS IF FIT)ASSAIDA
JONES
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Post by Gods on Aug 29, 2013 9:48:10 GMT
Is this thread what we think it should be or what we think it will be?
If it is what it will be I fancy Hughes will start with the same line-up that started at Anfield. Only possible change to that might be Jones for Crouch.
I think at the moment that will remain his team for a battle, and make no mistake, this one will be a brutal 90 minutes.
On last nights form Muniesa and Assaidi enhanced their chances of coming on Shea and Palacios probably played their way out of the frame.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 29, 2013 9:48:21 GMT
Id go with this
.................................Bego...........................
Wilson..........Huth................Ryan..........Eric
.............GCam.........Adam........NZonzi........
....Pennant..................KJ.............Assidi.......
Hopefully well get someone new in
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Aug 29, 2013 9:50:03 GMT
Is this thread what we think it should be or what we think it will be? If it is what it will be I fancy Hughes will start with the same line-up that started at Anfield. Only possible change to that might be Jones for Crouch. I think at the moment that will remain his team for a battle, and make no mistake, this one will be a brutal 90 minutes. On last nights form Muniesa and Assaidi enhanced their chances of coming on Shea and Palacios probably played their way out of the frame. I suspect Jon will be back in as you allude to Gods which is a shame given Pennant's showing against last night. |
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Post by scfc123 on Aug 29, 2013 9:52:22 GMT
After seeing glimpses of players like Shea, Assaidi, Palacios, Muniesa etc! If we went into Saturday with no more signing. What would you Starting 11 be at the weekend? I'd go Bego Cameron Ryan Huth Pieters Nzonzi Palacios Adam Pennant. Jones. Assaidi Had a few scoops before the game yesterday?? Palacios over Wilson? WOW. Hughes must like Palacios though! If he was apparently meant to start at anfield |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 29, 2013 10:02:56 GMT
I think we'll start with Etherington and Walters either side of Crouch. Not saying that's right though! I'd also say Whelan will start with Adam and N'Zonzi. Once again, not saying that's right. Back four remains as is and as it should be. Assaidi to come on at some time and Jones or Jerome. Any other new signing (unlikely I reckon) won't have an earthly chance of being considered, nor should they. As my better half is a Hammer I'm hoping we'll scramble a point. What we need is Fuller to come off the bench, picking up the ball on the touchline, cutting inside and beating three defenders before unleashing a shot past the keeper  |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 29, 2013 10:06:04 GMT
I don't think Adam will start at West Ham and think the midfield will be Wilson, Whelan, N'zonzi.
I would be very surprised if Etherington didn't play but surely to god, Jones now has to start. He's scored a hat-trick in his first 90 minutes for god knows how long and he simply has to start. If he doesn't, it would be another kick in the teeth for him following his mis-treatment by the previous manager when he was dropped for absolutely nothing.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 29, 2013 10:08:20 GMT
However, Dave, which of our centre forwards are we looking to get rid of before the window? Can you see both staying? At the moment this seems likely so Jerome out and one more winger/front man (Hunt) in perhaps?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 29, 2013 10:13:01 GMT
Bego Cameron (although still not convinced) Pieters (although Muniesa was good) Ryan Huth N'Zonzi Adam Wilson Pennant Jones (deserves it after a hat-trick) Assaidi (we need pace on the break) I think it'll be this apart from Walters for pennant. Wouldn't argue with either though |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 29, 2013 10:29:49 GMT
However, Dave, which of our centre forwards are we looking to get rid of before the window? Can you see both staying? At the moment this seems likely so Jerome out and one more winger/front man (Hunt) in perhaps? Does that matter? We just have to go with the best options we have NOW and that is KJ. Every point is crucial if we are to get over that 50 point line so we can't waste time playing players because they are the ones that might be here after Monday. KJ has to start until which point we have a better new signing in place or he is no longer with us. He is far from ideal but since the FA Cup Final, KJ has had a pretty rough ride from Stoke City managers and this will continue if Hughes reverts back to Crouch at the weekend. |
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Post by wrighter on Aug 29, 2013 10:31:03 GMT
Begovic
Wilson Shawcross Huth Pieters
Muniesa
N'Zonzi Adam
Pennant Jones Assaidi
Like this very much !! |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 29, 2013 10:47:41 GMT
However, Dave, which of our centre forwards are we looking to get rid of before the window? Can you see both staying? At the moment this seems likely so Jerome out and one more winger/front man (Hunt) in perhaps? Does that matter? We just have to go with the best options we have NOW and that is KJ. Every point is crucial if we are to get over that 50 point line so we can't waste time playing players because they are the ones that might be here after Monday. KJ has to start until which point we have a better new signing in place or he is no longer with us. He is far from ideal but since the FA Cup Final, KJ has had a pretty rough ride from Stoke City managers and this will continue if Hughes reverts back to Crouch at the weekend. Dave, are you sure you mean 50 points? Pulis really has gone hasn't he? I know what you're saying but I also think Crouch was saved for Saturday although the hat trick gives Hughes a conundrum. If Crouch doesn't play would you chuck Walters back in? Until Monday has come and gone, we're still in transition and I hope it doesn't prove too expensive. A point would be great. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 29, 2013 10:53:18 GMT
I meant 50 points Jimmy! That has to be the aim if we are looking for a top 10 finish.  I too think Crouch (and indeed the others that weren't involved) was being saved for Saturday but that doesn't make it right. If Crouch returns on Saturday then I think that will be Mark Hughes first big mistake of his reign to date. KJ has to start. Would I chuck Walters back in? Against them, I probably would to be honest but I would be well tempted to go with Pennant and Etherington either side of Jones especially if we are going to line up with the more solid midfield 3 that doesn't include Adam. |
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Aug 29, 2013 10:58:04 GMT
I meant 50 points Jimmy! That has to be the aim if we are looking for a top 10 finish. I too think Crouch (and indeed the others that weren't involved) was being saved for Saturday but that doesn't make it right. If Crouch returns on Saturday then I think that will be Mark Hughes first big mistake of his reign to date. KJ has to start. Would I chuck Walters back in? Against them, I probably would to be honest but I would be well tempted to go with Pennant and Etherington either side of Jones especially if we are going to line up with the more solid midfield 3 that doesn't include Adam. Opinions hey Dave as I wouldn't play Jones up top on his own with Matty and JP on the wings as neither have the legs to get beyond their man on a regular basis. I think there's absolutely no chance they'll both start. Ethers playing against his old club may fire him up for a half but it did the opposite once or twice in my memory. Probably agree about Adam not starting but he's not going to be too happy either only being played at home or coming on later in an away game if that's what you're suggesting. |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 29, 2013 11:03:23 GMT
I meant 50 points Jimmy! That has to be the aim if we are looking for a top 10 finish. I too think Crouch (and indeed the others that weren't involved) was being saved for Saturday but that doesn't make it right. If Crouch returns on Saturday then I think that will be Mark Hughes first big mistake of his reign to date. KJ has to start. Would I chuck Walters back in? Against them, I probably would to be honest but I would be well tempted to go with Pennant and Etherington either side of Jones especially if we are going to line up with the more solid midfield 3 that doesn't include Adam. Leaving Adam out would be fucking ridiculous. He was the difference between us and them last Saturday and looked excellent when he came on at Anfield. I can't envisage Adam being to impressed with being dropped every other week either. |
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Post by salopstick on Aug 29, 2013 11:06:31 GMT
This may be the first away game in a while where we actually make a good chance to win against an opposition where we should be looking for points
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 29, 2013 11:08:41 GMT
I don't think it would be ridiculous at all. It would be ridiculous if he was left out and we had Walters and Crouch as our main offensive options but if that isn't the case, it wouldn't be ridiculous at all.
Adam has many good attributes to his game, but like your previous love interest, he isn't all that and has as many downsides to his game and he does upsides. He did very little last night and AGAIN, almost cost us a goal courtesy of some stupid play when facing his own goal.
Jimmy...Neither may have the legs to get beyond KJ but both have the quality to stick balls into the box that KJ would thrive on. Given that Walters can't get beyond Crouch effectively either, then we lose nothing by playing a front 3 of Pennant, Jones, Etherington, until reinforcements arrive.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 29, 2013 11:13:50 GMT
I don't think it would be ridiculous at all. It would be ridiculous if he was left out and we had Walters and Crouch as our main offensive options but if that isn't the case, it wouldn't be ridiculous at all. Adam has many good attributes to his game, but like your previous love interest, he isn't all that and has as many downsides to his game and he does upsides. He did very little last night and AGAIN, almost cost us a goal courtesy of some stupid play when facing his own goal. Jimmy...Neither may have the legs to get beyond KJ but both have the quality to stick balls into the box that KJ would thrive on. Given that Walters can't get beyond Crouch effectively either, then we lose nothing by playing a front 3 of Pennant, Jones, Etherington, until reinforcements arrive. Bollocks and it's that kind of negative mentality I hope Hughes eradicates. As I say he's the difference for us at the moment and he's one of very few players we have that can create while possessing a goal threat. He makes mistakes in his own half and what...Whelan doesnt? Why would you drop your best attacking option? Baffling. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Aug 29, 2013 11:17:56 GMT
It isn't negative at all. I am suggesting that we may score more goals by going with a front 3 of Pennant, KJ and Ethers than we would with Walters, Crouch and Etherington with the sole creative aspect being on Adam. We may gain more going forward and be more solid defensively in the process. Score more, concede less! It may not work out that way but for me, it is something to consider and to consider seriously.
Somewhere along the line our midfield 3 isn't working and I am sure, though I can't put my finger on who the main culprit is (maybe its just the unit) that the midfield 3 is the main reason why we look a tad shaky defensively at times.
It isn't negative to say that Adam isn't all that as well. He really isn't. He does as many bad things as he does good things, just as Tuncay did, but I know how loyal you are to your love interests and refuse to see any bad in them at all. Build our team around him and we will ultimately find ourselves in trouble which is why Mark Hughes is seemingly keen on signing someone who would offer similar to what Adam can do (see interest in Aaron Hunt).
As for Whelan, he was head and shoulders above Charlie Adam last night.
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