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Post by burge2u on Aug 25, 2013 10:59:17 GMT
Whilst walking home from yesterday's match I saw what appears to be a nice little earner for the traffic enforcers at the expense of unsuspecting fans travelling home from the game.
There was a camera van parked up in Christchurch Street Fenton. It was focused on traffic turning left out of Temple Street into Christchurch Street (which is not an offence in itself). Motorists are then confronted with a very short 'buses only' lane at the junction with City Road (by the Royal Oak pub). In this situation the dilemma for drivers is either to reverse back along Christchurch Street or to take a chance and continue the short distance to the City Road junction. Those who perform the latter are duly caught on camera.
This confusing junction seems to be a nice little income stream for the traffic enforcers on match days when traffic volumes are greater with motorists who might not normally be familiar with the traffic restrictions at this location.
My own view is that if traffic enforcers were really serious about traffic safety at this location they would put more effort into eliminating the confusion, rather than using it as an opportunity to maximise income.
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Post by stokie1965 on Aug 25, 2013 11:29:28 GMT
Its there alot, its usually parked on the double yellow lines but yesterday was actually parked legally.
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Post by prudhoe on Aug 25, 2013 14:29:02 GMT
Its a bus lane. Dont drive through bus lanes. Anyone who drive's through that bus lane in Fenton you deserve your fine. No scandal about that.
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Post by MuddyWoody on Aug 25, 2013 15:28:33 GMT
Its a bus lane. Dont drive through bus lanes. Anyone who drive's through that bus lane in Fenton you deserve your fine. No scandal about that. Apart from the fact that as I pay my road tax, MOT and car insurance I should be able to use all the lanes on the public highway and not be forced into a percentage of the available space to benefit a minority of vehicles on the road!!! I also agree with the OP, it's just another way to screw money out of us. |
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Post by roost on Aug 25, 2013 15:31:58 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 25, 2013 15:34:10 GMT
There's a similar trick in Hanley by the fire station, an inescapable bus lane monitored by countless cameras. It is, of course, completely unnecessary.
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Post by werrington on Aug 25, 2013 15:35:06 GMT
I thought bus lanes were only enforceable in rush hours ?
And they are depending which way you are heading ie the ones towards Hanley are am and the ones leaving are pm ?
Is this correct
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Post by Meggsy on Aug 25, 2013 15:56:33 GMT
Its a bus lane. Dont drive through bus lanes. Anyone who drive's through that bus lane in Fenton you deserve your fine. No scandal about that. Apart from the fact that as I pay my road tax, MOT and car insurance I should be able to use all the lanes on the public highway and not be forced into a percentage of the available space to benefit a minority of vehicles on the road!!! I also agree with the OP, it's just another way to screw money out of us. There is no such thing as road tax. |
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Post by prudhoe on Aug 25, 2013 16:01:43 GMT
Its a bus lane. Dont drive through bus lanes. Anyone who drive's through that bus lane in Fenton you deserve your fine. No scandal about that. Apart from the fact that as I pay my road tax, MOT and car insurance I should be able to use all the lanes on the public highway and not be forced into a percentage of the available space to benefit a minority of vehicles on the road!!! I also agree with the OP, it's just another way to screw money out of us. Nope. You in your car have no right to use a bus lane. You are breaking the law, breaking the highway code and are a piss poor driver if you disobey the rules of the road. Bus lanes are there to give public transport an advantage over other traffic. Do you think you have a right to drive your car down a cycle lane thought the park too then because you pay your road tax? Like it or not those are the rules of the road. If you break them you deserve to be punished. I am a bus driver. And its drivers with attitudes like yours that make my job so much more difficult week in week out because of inconsiderate drivers who have no respect for the rules of the road. |
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Post by lawrieleslie on Aug 25, 2013 16:05:17 GMT
There is one in Plymouth where a small break in a bus lane allows vehicular access to a busy retail park at Derriford. Anybody tempted to cut into the bus lane to avoid the queue at the traffic lights are caught on the camera. I also nearly got caught in Hanley few weeks ago taking a short cut from the Potteries Center Car Park to go down to Festival Park. Spotted the trap at beginning of bus lane and was able to u-turn and avoid it.
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Post by jarvinski on Aug 25, 2013 19:16:44 GMT
Hey woody what the fuck do bus drivers know about the highway code, you fucking morons are a disgrace to the art of driving!
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 25, 2013 19:36:41 GMT
Apart from the fact that as I pay my road tax, MOT and car insurance I should be able to use all the lanes on the public highway and not be forced into a percentage of the available space to benefit a minority of vehicles on the road!!! I also agree with the OP, it's just another way to screw money out of us. Nope. You in your car have no right to use a bus lane. You are breaking the law, breaking the highway code and are a piss poor driver if you disobey the rules of the road. Bus lanes are there to give public transport an advantage over other traffic. Do you think you have a right to drive your car down a cycle lane thought the park too then because you pay your road tax? Like it or not those are the rules of the road. If you break them you deserve to be punished. I am a bus driver. And its drivers with attitudes like yours that make my job so much more difficult week in week out because of inconsiderate drivers who have no respect for the rules of the road. I understand what you're saying, but the one by the fire station in Hanley is about six yards long and serves absolutely no purpose apart from to sucker people in as the road inexplicably turns into a bus lane. |
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Post by mrred on Aug 25, 2013 19:41:20 GMT
All the council urchins were on it yesterday. I got a fucking fine for parking in my own street! They can kiss my arse.
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Post by gb on Aug 25, 2013 20:23:44 GMT
just do as you are told Boyo !!!
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Post by countofmontecristo on Aug 25, 2013 20:31:20 GMT
Apart from the fact that as I pay my road tax, MOT and car insurance I should be able to use all the lanes on the public highway and not be forced into a percentage of the available space to benefit a minority of vehicles on the road!!! I also agree with the OP, it's just another way to screw money out of us. Nope. You in your car have no right to use a bus lane. You are breaking the law, breaking the highway code and are a piss poor driver if you disobey the rules of the road. Bus lanes are there to give public transport an advantage over other traffic. Do you think you have a right to drive your car down a cycle lane thought the park too then because you pay your road tax? Like it or not those are the rules of the road. If you break them you deserve to be punished. I am a bus driver. And its drivers with attitudes like yours that make my job so much more difficult week in week out because of inconsiderate drivers who have no respect for the rules of the road. In my experience, bus drivers are the worst drivers on the fuckin' road  |
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Post by hollybush on Aug 25, 2013 20:33:28 GMT
It's always the same isn't it? It's never your fault. I live in the STAD2 parking zone near the ground, where there is no parking on event days without a permit. In the 12 years I've lived there, I am the only person who has bothered to get the FREE permit.
No doubt, if the enforcers came round on a match day and ticketed everyone, there'd be outrage, yet who's fault would it be?
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on Aug 25, 2013 20:35:49 GMT
Apart from the fact that as I pay my road tax, MOT and car insurance I should be able to use all the lanes on the public highway and not be forced into a percentage of the available space to benefit a minority of vehicles on the road!!! I also agree with the OP, it's just another way to screw money out of us. There is no such thing as road tax. Yup. I forget what they call it now but it's not road tax and it also doesn't pay for road maintenance. |
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Post by burge2u on Aug 25, 2013 20:41:49 GMT
Nope. You in your car have no right to use a bus lane. You are breaking the law, breaking the highway code and are a piss poor driver if you disobey the rules of the road. Bus lanes are there to give public transport an advantage over other traffic. Do you think you have a right to drive your car down a cycle lane thought the park too then because you pay your road tax? Like it or not those are the rules of the road. If you break them you deserve to be punished. I am a bus driver. And its drivers with attitudes like yours that make my job so much more difficult week in week out because of inconsiderate drivers who have no respect for the rules of the road. I understand what you're saying, but the one by the fire station in Hanley is about six yards long and serves absolutely no purpose apart from to sucker people in as the road inexplicably turns into a bus lane. The bus lane I was referring to outside the Royal Oak pub in Christchurch Street Fenton is also only about 6 yards long. What is the purpose of a bus lane that is shorter than the length of the bus itself? ? ? My reason for mentioning it in the first place is because the traffic enforcers obviously view this as a tidy income stream. I just didn't want any fellow football fans falling into the trap on match days. |
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Post by prudhoe on Aug 25, 2013 21:02:09 GMT
The purpose of that bus lane is that only buses can use that junction to access City Road. It doesnt need to be any longer than it is to achieve that. Match days are the perfect example of why. What do you get at the junction of Glebedale Road and City Road after a match. You get a queue of traffic waiting to get onto City Road. If there was no bus lane on the end of Christchurch Street you would get the same happening there. So when the bus comes along it is stuck in traffic and the service runs late. By putting a bus lane there. Only the bus can use it. The bus jumps past the queue of traffic and is on its way.
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Post by bmstoke on Aug 25, 2013 21:07:12 GMT
I bet Rossi just speeds through it so fast the camera can't catch him.
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Post by santy on Aug 25, 2013 23:24:49 GMT
Its a bus lane. Dont drive through bus lanes. Anyone who drive's through that bus lane in Fenton you deserve your fine. No scandal about that. Apart from the fact that as I pay my road tax, MOT and car insurance I should be able to use all the lanes on the public highway and not be forced into a percentage of the available space to benefit a minority of vehicles on the road!!! I also agree with the OP, it's just another way to screw money out of us. Except you don't pay road tax. You pay a tax based on the emissions of your car, the tax is in no way based upon the use of, or related to the maintenance of roads. If you started calling your income tax, cheese tax it wouldn't be any more valid  . |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2013 23:35:58 GMT
It's always the same isn't it? It's never your fault. I live in the STAD2 parking zone near the ground, where there is no parking on event days without a permit. In the 12 years I've lived there, I am the only person who has bothered to get the FREE permit. No doubt, if the enforcers came round on a match day and ticketed everyone, there'd be outrage, yet who's fault would it be? So they categorised it and didn't give out permits to the household? How strange. Alls it would take is two in an envelope and get some low paid Council urchin to post them. |
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Post by hollybush on Aug 26, 2013 7:22:34 GMT
It's always the same isn't it? It's never your fault. I live in the STAD2 parking zone near the ground, where there is no parking on event days without a permit. In the 12 years I've lived there, I am the only person who has bothered to get the FREE permit. No doubt, if the enforcers came round on a match day and ticketed everyone, there'd be outrage, yet who's fault would it be? So they categorised it and didn't give out permits to the household? How strange. Alls it would take is two in an envelope and get some low paid Council urchin to post them. They have the registration number of the car on, so they can't be hawked around for a profit, which is no doubt what would happen straight away if they were just handed out willy-nilly. There isn't enough room for residents cars in our street, never mind all the people using the permits to let people park for matches. |
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Post by gezzer on Aug 26, 2013 7:54:49 GMT
Road Tax is the popular name for Vehicle Excise Duty. Paying it does not contribute in any way to use of the roads.
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