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Post by WorkingclassHero on Aug 24, 2013 19:17:36 GMT
This guy is shocking, the deterioration of him since his arrival is despairing. The logic was that a four year contract was ok because he doesn't rely on pace and that we'd get 4 years out of him. Since his teeth got knocked out he has been terrible. Seems more interested in his hair than getting stuck in. Shocking to think we have paid the best part of 20 million for him.
We should snap off QPRs hands just to get him off the bill. Chamack showed him up today and that tells you everything you need to know.
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 24, 2013 19:19:08 GMT
He's holding the team back. We need rid ASAP, It's painful watching him lumber about.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:19:21 GMT
I thought he worked hard today and was unlucky not to get a goal. They had two men on him most of the way through. Get some pace either side of him and I think in this system he still has plenty to offer.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 24, 2013 19:25:27 GMT
I thought he was bullied in the air but on the ground was excellent and tried his damndest to link up play. He was decent enough.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:26:23 GMT
Workingclasshero
Spot on too much media not enough football I am afraid don't understand why jones didn't get a chance today so for me if sparky doesn't fancy jones we need rid of both , be very sorry to see KJ go but crouch good bloke he might be has been at the centre of our gradual decline
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Post by ruarig on Aug 24, 2013 19:26:44 GMT
I'm with Rob he did what was asked of him today
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Post by BristolMick on Aug 24, 2013 19:26:55 GMT
I thought he worked hard today and was unlucky not to get a goal. They had two men on him most of the way through. Get some pace either side of him and I think in this system he still has plenty to offer. That miss in the second half Rob was beyond awful! With an open goal in front of him he somehow contrived to let the ball bounce of his head at such a stupid angle it went out for a throw. You can only assume that as the ball came across he must have closed his eyes like a 10 year old worried that heading the ball might hurt! It was totally and utterly unacceptable and this from someone who has played for England. BM |
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Post by BristolMick on Aug 24, 2013 19:27:09 GMT
I thought he worked hard today and was unlucky not to get a goal. They had two men on him most of the way through. Get some pace either side of him and I think in this system he still has plenty to offer. That miss in the second half Rob was beyond awful! With an open goal in front of him he somehow contrived to let the ball bounce of his head at such a stupid angle it went out for a throw. You can only assume that as the ball came across he must have closed his eyes like a 10 year old worried that heading the ball might hurt! It was totally and utterly unacceptable and this from someone who has played for England. BM |
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 24, 2013 19:28:13 GMT
Workingclasshero Spot on too much media not enough football I am afraid don't understand why jones didn't get a chance today so for me if sparky doesn't fancy jones we need rid of both , be very sorry to see KJ go but crouch good bloke he might be has been at the centre of our gradual decline +1 |
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Post by robstokie on Aug 24, 2013 19:28:19 GMT
I like crouchy, but, honestly, hes past it. The only thing he did today was miss a sitter from 6 yards.
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Post by Squeekster on Aug 24, 2013 19:29:01 GMT
Crouch is not dog awful we just don't play to his strengths and never really have!
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Post by YounginStoke on Aug 24, 2013 19:31:16 GMT
He offers more in this system than Jones IMO, it also says something that sparky didn't fancy bringing on kenwyne, I full expect crouch to be dropped if we get a striker in e.g. Diouf
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Post by ruarig on Aug 24, 2013 19:33:37 GMT
He also hit the cross bar and it was his header that created the first goal.......
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:36:18 GMT
3 in 32 according to tonight's media just not good enough
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:36:35 GMT
I thought he worked hard today and was unlucky not to get a goal. They had two men on him most of the way through. Get some pace either side of him and I think in this system he still has plenty to offer. That miss in the second half Rob was beyond awful! With an open goal in front of him he somehow contrived to let the ball bounce of his head at such a stupid angle it went out for a throw. You can only assume that as the ball came across he must have closed his eyes like a 10 year old worried that heading the ball might hurt! It was totally and utterly unacceptable and this from someone who has played for England. BM I take your word my learned friend , but why doesn't Hughes pick Kenwyn Jones instead ...? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:38:06 GMT
I like crouchy, but, honestly, hes past it. The only thing he did today was miss a sitter from 6 yards. / I think so too , but he is still preferred over Jones. Why is this..? |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:39:28 GMT
Seems pretty clear Jones is the striker we'd rather rid of and I think Crouch arguably suits a 4-3-3 better.
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Post by johnnysoul60 on Aug 24, 2013 19:41:04 GMT
did well for first goal but desperately needs pace around him and we have none = problem
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 24, 2013 19:41:20 GMT
Seems pretty clear Jones is the striker we'd rather rid of and I think Crouch arguably suits a 4-3-3 better. He's offered absolutely nothing in two seasons now under two managers and is holding us back. Get rid, any way, I don't mind how. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:41:21 GMT
Seems pretty clear Jones is the striker we'd rather rid of and I think Crouch arguably suits a 4-3-3 better. Is it his attitude and application ? |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 24, 2013 19:41:26 GMT
I thought he was awful to be fair.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:43:42 GMT
Seems pretty clear Jones is the striker we'd rather rid of and I think Crouch arguably suits a 4-3-3 better. Is it his attitude and application ? He's got a year left on his contract, got to be scant hope of him getting another, and he can't link the play as well as Crouch. |
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Post by cartman123 on Aug 24, 2013 19:44:11 GMT
How about first getting rid of the largely ineffective Walters who, I believe, hardly touched the ball? Just a thought.
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Post by AlanHansen on Aug 24, 2013 19:45:46 GMT
How about first getting rid of the largely ineffective Walters who, I believe, hardly touched the ball? Just a thought. I'd keep Walters over Crouch. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 24, 2013 19:46:53 GMT
Walters had a strong second half I thought. Chased down everything and made a nuisance of himself. Was anonymous first half but would keep him as an option off the bench.
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Post by stokemanusa on Aug 24, 2013 19:47:22 GMT
Crouch did fight and knock down the ball that Walters shifted to Adam to equalize... He's a great player. He's doesn't offer pace but a player to keep IMO. Offers a lot of quality compared to other players he's class but until we get better options he's our man...
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Aug 24, 2013 19:47:47 GMT
How about first getting rid of the largely ineffective Walters who, I believe, hardly touched the ball? Just a thought. The post is about Crouch, leave your petty agenda out of it. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Aug 24, 2013 19:48:15 GMT
Crouch is a 4-4-2 striker, the same as Jerome is.
He desperately, desperately needs to have some pace either alongside him or in the wide/inside forward positions. The problem will be that when we play away and the 4-3-3 ends up as 4-5-1 for long spells, he's isolated again and looks like a baby giraffe trying to stand up in a gale as he tries to fend off big hulking centre backs.
We've never managed to use him properly ever since we bought him. To be honest I think if TP hadn't splashed out on him then he might still be in a job now...that's the effect that he's had on our play.
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Post by robstokie on Aug 24, 2013 19:49:22 GMT
I like crouchy, but, honestly, hes past it. The only thing he did today was miss a sitter from 6 yards. / I think so too , but he is still preferred over Jones. Why is this..? Probably because sparky thinks that KJ blows hot and cold, Even though last season we looked most threating going forward when KJ had his run in the team when crouchy was out injured. Also, KJ comes across as someone who may be a liability in certain situations (ie. if we are getting tonked or a crowd is on his case). |
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Post by chris9 on Aug 24, 2013 19:50:04 GMT
Crouch really does limit us and constantly allows the centre backs to move him to the half way line. Bringing pressure on to the rest of the team.
The header in the first half was a bad miss and didn't attack the ball one bit.
If jones isn't worthy I would ship them both out... I like jones but its clear he ain't going to play...
Crouch is shot and will not perform effectively in any prem team...
Never liked him never will...
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