assburgers
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Post by assburgers on Aug 1, 2013 14:39:57 GMT
Confident about us but worried about the amount of money and quality brought in by other teams. It appears that *this* was the year to really improve your squad and a lot of quality players were made available and have since been snapped up by those that I expect will be competing with us realistically in the league. Think we have missed a few tricks. But there is still time.
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Post by foster on Aug 1, 2013 14:52:53 GMT
Excited. Plenty of decent players available with lots of competing teams already having made most - if not all - of their summer transfers.
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Post by mccfred on Aug 1, 2013 18:20:35 GMT
A bit of both; the change in manager always makes things complicated and risky, but such a change also creates the possibility of big improvement and possibly a push towards the top 10
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 1, 2013 19:00:48 GMT
Looking forward to the new set up but think people are expecting miracles from Hughes. If we kick off as we are now, we will struggle......badly. Who's fault is that, Momo?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 1, 2013 19:05:34 GMT
Looking forward to the new set up but think people are expecting miracles from Hughes. If we kick off as we are now, we will struggle......badly. Who's fault is that, Momo? If we go down the order will be Coates then Hughes (and his staff) then The Players
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Post by trickydicky73 on Aug 1, 2013 19:14:49 GMT
Who's fault is that, Momo? If we go down the order will be Coates then Hughes (and his staff) then The Players Who bought some of the shite, then? Was Tone out of the loop? I hope we aren't going to lose out on signings due to penny pinching, but I fear we will. Fabian is exactly what we need for example, and we could get in before he gets snapped up. I think it was you who said that Pennant re-signing was a portent of things to come(or words to that effect)and I think you may be right.
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Post by wuzza on Aug 1, 2013 19:17:14 GMT
Very worried as things stand but not blaming Hughes - club should be backing him with big money to get him established then move more gradually into this 'youth development' format.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 19:35:22 GMT
Excited. It looks like the end of square pegs etc and the likes of palacios and pennant are being given a chance to shine. I'm pretty sure we will sign at least one more before the Liverpool game so I think we are currently in a decent way
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Post by smudger46 on Aug 1, 2013 19:40:50 GMT
bit worried that mark hughes does not seem to have funds to put right the obvious problems from past seasons..
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Post by jonscfc1990 on Aug 1, 2013 19:44:00 GMT
A bit of both, but more of the former than the latter. I'm sure we'll do absolutely fine, but we have to give him time if things don't go well right from the off.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 1, 2013 19:44:15 GMT
If we go down the order will be Coates then Hughes (and his staff) then The Players Who bought some of the shite, then? Was Tone out of the loop? I hope we aren't going to lose out on signings due to penny pinching, but I fear we will. Fabian is exactly what we need for example, and we could get in before he gets snapped up. I think it was you who said that Pennant re-signing was a portent of things to come(or words to that effect)and I think you may be right. Tone's dead trick, it's year zero, some of the desolation is down to Tone but that's yesterday's news. I will forgive pretty much anything next season but drifting in the bottom three for any sustained time is entirely unacceptable but in a way I'm beginning to think that Hughes will do well to deliver anything above that.
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 1, 2013 19:45:02 GMT
Mark Hughes said he left Fulham because they lacked ambition. It would seem odd if he decided to join Stoke after being told there was little money to spend.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 1, 2013 19:46:43 GMT
Mark Hughes said he left Fulham because they lacked ambition. It would seem odd if he decided to join Stoke after being told there was little money to spend. He was told by someone, maybe his sewer rat agent, that the Chelsea job was on the cards wasn't he?
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 1, 2013 19:50:28 GMT
momo,
I think he was favourite for Villa as well.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 20:24:02 GMT
very concerned
this team isn't good enough.
the likes of kightly, walters, crouch, Cameron, ethers, Jerome, will all feature regularly and are just not up to the job. There is a total lack of pace and ability running through the team. No flair, no creativity, no goals.
add to that the fact that in many games last season there was a total lack of desire, effort, commitment from the players. so many times they let themselves and the club down with very poor performances.
we needed five good signings this summer, and we needed to ship out all of the above named.
we're going to be in a scrap at the bottom this season, no doubt
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Post by werrington on Aug 1, 2013 20:30:43 GMT
You bet I'm excited
The first time in 3 years I have looked forward to the new season and hopefully come March it won't be the first time in 3 years that i can't wait for it to finish
Bring it on
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 1, 2013 20:44:29 GMT
Looking forward to the new set up but think people are expecting miracles from Hughes. If we kick off as we are now, we will struggle......badly. And that's fact ladies and gentlemen. Pulis's legacy has left us with a squad assembled for £100million yet most of us, while being a bit excited, are going into this season with trepidation because we're not sure if the players are 'up to playing football'. It's nothing short of a scandal. Meanwhile Swansea are dismantling decent European opposition as we speak and clubs like West Brom are passing us by.
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Post by Pugsley on Aug 1, 2013 20:46:40 GMT
Very worried as things stand but not blaming Hughes - club should be backing him with big money to get him established then move more gradually into this 'youth development' format. Bang on.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 1, 2013 20:49:29 GMT
Looking forward to the new set up but think people are expecting miracles from Hughes. If we kick off as we are now, we will struggle......badly. And that's fact ladies and gentlemen. Pulis's legacy has left us with a squad assembled for £100million yet most of us, while being a bit excited, are going into this season with trepidation because we're not sure if the players are 'up to playing football'. It's nothing short of a scandal. Meanwhile Swansea are dismantling decent European opposition as we speak and clubs like West Brom are passing us by. People to blame if we go down 1. Coates and Son (plus family) 2. Hughes (plus staff) 3. Suits Fuck all to do with the man who never really had us in a minutes trouble in five years.
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Post by geoff321 on Aug 1, 2013 20:54:52 GMT
If Stoke do well, it will be down to Hughes,if they do badly it will be down to Pulis.
Nice postion for MH to be in.
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Post by werrington on Aug 1, 2013 20:56:57 GMT
And that's fact ladies and gentlemen. Pulis's legacy has left us with a squad assembled for £100million yet most of us, while being a bit excited, are going into this season with trepidation because we're not sure if the players are 'up to playing football'. It's nothing short of a scandal. Meanwhile Swansea are dismantling decent European opposition as we speak and clubs like West Brom are passing us by. People to blame if we go down 1. Coates and Son (plus family) 2. Hughes (plus staff) 3. Suits Fuck all to do with the man who never really had us in a minutes trouble in five years. It was a steady downward spiral mate and has he stayed we were heading south this coming season at a rapid rate of knots Of that there is no doubt
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Post by lordb on Aug 1, 2013 20:59:23 GMT
And that's fact ladies and gentlemen. Pulis's legacy has left us with a squad assembled for £100million yet most of us, while being a bit excited, are going into this season with trepidation because we're not sure if the players are 'up to playing football'. It's nothing short of a scandal. Meanwhile Swansea are dismantling decent European opposition as we speak and clubs like West Brom are passing us by. People to blame if we go down 1. Coates and Son (plus family) 2. Hughes (plus staff) 3. Suits Fuck all to do with the man who never really had us in a minutes trouble in five years. I'm a Pulis fan but it's just wrong to say we never really had a moments trouble because last season after xmas we we're in trouble. Even TP would say that
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 1, 2013 21:03:36 GMT
A bit of both. A few more new players will sway me more towards excited.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Aug 1, 2013 21:09:47 GMT
Uber excited for this season.
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Post by drjeffsdiscobarge on Aug 1, 2013 21:15:19 GMT
Honestly, neither. There's hysteria and blind optimism from differing camps every year and I'm guessing that most clubs fans are the same (except ManUre fans who cant remember The Bin Dipper's domination and seem to think they have a god given right to win everything each year - big surprise coming this year when they miss out on top 4). The truth of the matter is, until a few games have been played, we will have no idea. Friendlies by and large have no reflection on a teams chances in the coming season and fancy signings mean fuck all if you cant integrate them into your team. Add into it a new regime and possible (hopeful) change in style and it's any fuckers guess what's gonna happen with us this year. How many fancied QPR be a handful as they splashed the cash? How many would predict we would still be in the Prem after our first game back up? Calm thee sens down and lets wait and see before we start passing round the poisoned Koolade Jonestown Massacre style... but lets also hold out on booking any more flights to Valenthia.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 1, 2013 21:15:44 GMT
We haven't been in the bottom three in a real serious situation since 2009. The change (new direction) had nothing to do with prospective relegation but moving forward. If we struggle and go down the people responsible will get holy fucking hell and rightly so. 16th and a bit better football, then fine. Arseing about in the bottom and three blaming Pulis I'm afraid is just a load of big swinging bollocks.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 21:17:12 GMT
We haven't been in the bottom three in a real serious situation since 2009. The change (new direction) had nothing to do with prospective relegation but moving forward. If we struggle and go down the people responsible will get holy fucking hell and rightly so. 16th and a bit better football, then fine. Arseing about in the bottom and three blaming Pulis I'm afraid is just a load of big swinging bollocks. You don't think the fact that we won just three times after the turn of the year (after a very poor end to the previous season) was any sort of a factor Sheiky?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Aug 1, 2013 21:23:27 GMT
We haven't been in the bottom three in a real serious situation since 2009. The change (new direction) had nothing to do with prospective relegation but moving forward. If we struggle and go down the people responsible will get holy fucking hell and rightly so. 16th and a bit better football, then fine. Arseing about in the bottom and three blaming Pulis I'm afraid is just a load of big swinging bollocks. You don't think the fact that we won just three times after the turn of the year (after a very poor end to the previous season) was any sort of a factor Sheiky? I think Rawlins indicated in the interview the other day that the discussions to get rid had been long standing, Rob. Sure we were on a downward spiral but there were always three or more worse sides by a mile and if that's not the case next year, that's not Pulis's fault, it is Coates, Hughes, then the suit mob, in that order.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 21:31:51 GMT
You don't think the fact that we won just three times after the turn of the year (after a very poor end to the previous season) was any sort of a factor Sheiky? I think Rawlins indicated in the interview the other day that the discussions to get rid had been long standing, Rob. Sure we were on a downward spiral but there were always three or more worse sides by a mile and if that's not the case next year, that's not Pulis's fault, it is Coates, Hughes, then the suit mob, in that order. That's very much hindsight talking though mate, after the Villa and WHU games we looked very much in the thick of it. I don't believe for a second that had results and performances been good after Christmas the board would have got rid. It was getting so little return for the last two years' investment in terms of results that got him the chop, surely? If not that then what?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 1, 2013 21:39:20 GMT
I cannot wait for the new season...but I think MH has his work cut out, if we don't improve our forward line, wings, and probably a centre-mid.
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