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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 7, 2013 14:24:53 GMT
Will those who liked to try to taunt/bait us by calling us thugs/ rugby players diminish or persist under Hughes? (Obviously the predictables on here will say that it doesn't matter - just interested in others views on how the media will handle the "New Stoke")
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Post by Jimm on Jul 7, 2013 14:29:50 GMT
I doubt we will drop the tag for a good few years regardless of how different we play under Hughes, it will be a tough tag to shift
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 14:30:27 GMT
Depends how we play really. If we're like Hughes' Blackburn team yes. If we're like his Fulham team no.
Suspect he won't make too many drastic changes and we'll still be physical.
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Post by Gods on Jul 7, 2013 14:31:02 GMT
It will be sad if we become another Blackburn/Bolton/WBA/Wigan/Fulham/Sunderland/Who-cares/You-name-it jobbing mid-lower tier team with an occasional relegation scrap.
We had a unique identity and I cherished it.
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Post by werrington on Jul 7, 2013 14:31:25 GMT
Club stigmas stick I,m afraid
Allardyce was the anti Christ at Bolton but he now manages West Ham and they or he get no stick whatsoever but he hasn't changed how he plays the game one iota
Fulham, Man City or QPR have never been labelled long ball under Mark Hughes but I'll bet that's what he gets labelled here no matter what
Lazy bastards the media
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 14:32:47 GMT
It will be sad if we become another Blackburn/Bolton/WBA/Wigan/Fulham/Sunderland/Who-cares/You-name-it jobbing mid-lower tier team with an occasional relegation scrap. We had a unique identity and I cherished it. Had we not become that anyway? Part of the problem in the end seemed to be that we'd forgotten what made Stoke Stoke under Pulis.
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 7, 2013 14:56:34 GMT
Didn't mind in the least our reputation when it was based on hard work in your face never say die , the last two years it was based on us being a poor version of ourselves , not so good
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Post by JoeinOz on Jul 7, 2013 15:02:45 GMT
Reputations aren't as important as the reality. And our reality is we have to be a lot less physical
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Post by generationex on Jul 7, 2013 15:05:00 GMT
I don't care as long as we don't get our old reputation back - as just another going nowhere tin pot club from a former industrial town.
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Post by foster on Jul 7, 2013 15:06:20 GMT
I think our reputation will change for the better.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 15:19:53 GMT
I don't think we will be labelled with thugs/rugby players so much but, In the first few months we will be laughed at until the players fully take on board what Hughes wants from them....I hope and pray the players and all the fans throw themselves fully behind his ideas, for all our sakes
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Post by harryburrows on Jul 7, 2013 15:30:39 GMT
I don't think we will be labelled with thugs/rugby players so much but, In the first few months we will be laughed at until the players fully take on board what Hughes wants from them....I hope and pray the players and all the fans throw themselves fully behind his ideas, for all our sakes Very profound Minnie
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Post by Gods on Jul 7, 2013 15:52:36 GMT
I think our reputation will change for the better. But our reputation won't go from big scary route 1 Stoke City to a free flowing club version of Brazil, it will instead go from big bad Stoke to no one even cares.
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Post by niel on Jul 7, 2013 15:56:12 GMT
Why all the fretting what others think......most of the past shite spouted has been from people who didn't even see us.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 17:22:04 GMT
I'd swap all the physical and hardworking comments for been 10 points adrift at the foot of the table come christmas.
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Post by digger on Jul 7, 2013 17:27:44 GMT
I'd swap all the physical and hardworking comments for been 10 points adrift at the foot of the table come christmas. LEAVE WERRINGTON ALONE
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Post by Sfance on Jul 7, 2013 17:32:36 GMT
I don't think it was Stoke City's reputation. It was Pulis' reputation. Or "Stoke as managed by Pulis" reputation. We had become a thing of scorn under him. That was never Stoke City before. And now he's gone, he will have taken the stigma with him.
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Post by geoff321 on Jul 7, 2013 17:44:10 GMT
Sfance,
For 23 years Stoke were pretty irrelevant to the football world, outside of the Potteries.
Under Tony Pulis the football world in England and Europe took notice of them, something that had not happened since the 1970's.
If that is classed as scorn in your mind, I say lets have more of it.
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Post by Squeekster on Jul 7, 2013 18:05:50 GMT
Sfance, For 23 years Stoke were pretty irrelevant to the football world, outside of the Potteries. Under Tony Pulis the football world in England and Europe took notice of them, something that had not happened since the 1970's. If that is classed as scorn in your mind, I say lets have more of it. You geoff in this case are quite correct! In all fairness managers apart from Wenger understand that new teams to the prem have to do anything to survive by what ever means and they understand this even though on match of the day they say things like Stoke are a very big and physical side and play a direct style of football when they lose but in reality they know full well that we play hard but fair.
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Post by Sfance on Jul 7, 2013 18:05:50 GMT
Geoff, I'd a lot rather be not noticed than scorned.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 7, 2013 18:10:06 GMT
I'd swap all the physical and hardworking comments for been 10 points adrift at the foot of the table come christmas. LEAVE WERRINGTON ALONE Lol.
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Post by thevoid on Jul 7, 2013 18:20:20 GMT
It will be sad if we become another Blackburn/Bolton/WBA/Wigan/Fulham/Sunderland/Who-cares/You-name-it jobbing mid-lower tier team with an occasional relegation scrap. We had a unique identity and I cherished it. What, as a bunch of thugs playing a style of 'football' that should never tarnish this level again? Great identity. Peter Sutcliffe had a 'unique identity'. I wouldn't want to emulate it though!
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Post by villanois on Jul 7, 2013 19:34:27 GMT
the in ya face - who are ya attitude is what I like about Stoke and hope it remains. As for what other teams label you - what ever does (or may) wind you up. Same with any other club.
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Post by PotterLog on Jul 7, 2013 19:38:14 GMT
Hughes doesn't exactly have a reputation for playing timid tippy-tappy carpet football either.
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Post by mt on Jul 7, 2013 19:48:41 GMT
No more "We`ll play how we want" ?
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Post by surreystokie on Jul 7, 2013 20:03:26 GMT
We must not forget that it worked both ways. I cold not believe that, right to the end, the majority of the media were saying how difficult it was to play at the Brit, with supporters as intimidating as the team. If only, on both counts...............
Also remained complimentry about our great defensive work, even when we couldn't keep a clean sheet to save our lives, for the most part and the odd match we did just about saved us from relegation.
I think most will appreciate how difficult it is, for any new manager, his staff and the squad. Without the money previously provided, MH will have to work very differently and I'm sure the results will come, if not quickly. I just hope that we don't get the reputation for the appalling discipline, of which I was ashamed. There won't be any arguing, either, as our place in the PL yellow/red cards table, will be the ultimate proof.
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Post by Gods on Jul 7, 2013 20:15:47 GMT
Anyway even if you are a sensitive soul and genuinely believe we had a shameful record of "appalling discipline" under TP as someone said I'm not sure why anyone thinks we will go all soft and fluffy under Hughes?
During his spell in charge of Blackburn, Hughes' side was accused of being "over-physical" and "dirty" on multiple occasions and the club finished bottom of the Premier League disciplinary table in all four of Hughes' seasons in charge.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 6:04:00 GMT
I don't care because we aren't thugs and we didn't play rugby, there were a couple of seasons when Arsenal committed more fouls and had more red and yellow cards so most of it was bollocks anyway. I love upsetting the soft politically correct southern wankers and I can't think of anything worse than some plastic Arsenal tossers saying they like us.
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Post by metalhead on Jul 8, 2013 6:37:50 GMT
Club stigmas stick I,m afraid Allardyce was the anti Christ at Bolton but he now manages West Ham and they or he get no stick whatsoever but he hasn't changed how he plays the game one iotaFulham, Man City or QPR have never been labelled long ball under Mark Hughes but I'll bet that's what he gets labelled here no matter what Lazy bastards the media West Ham are the goldenboys of football though. The media won't have a bad word said about them.
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Jul 8, 2013 7:19:06 GMT
I disagree they do change, Bolton were the anti christ, Owen Coyle took over and because they were playing us they were labled "Sweet Passing Bolton."
But for what it's worth, I don't give a shit what anyone thinks about us. Only what we think counts.
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