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Post by juansheet on Jun 26, 2013 19:46:52 GMT
Why is it that the majority of football commentators always pronounce Brazilian names ending in "O" as if it ends in "IO" for example Paulino as Paulinio or Jairzino as Jairzinio or Ronaldino as Ronaldinio. Just wondered cus it irritates the sh** out of me !
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Post by cmc89 on Jun 26, 2013 19:50:57 GMT
Well how do they pronounce it?
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Post by juansheet on Jun 26, 2013 19:58:17 GMT
Paulin E O as opposed to Paulin O, Jairzin E O as opposed to Jairzin O, Ronaldin E O as opposed to Ronaldin O
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Post by geriatricoatcake on Jun 26, 2013 19:58:23 GMT
I learnt some portuguese when in brazil a couple of years back and its actually spelt 'Ronaldinho' with the 'nho' in Portuguese pronounced 'nyo' - hence English commentators will naturally pronounce it "nio"
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Post by juansheet on Jun 26, 2013 19:59:26 GMT
Paulin E O as opposed to Paulin O, Jairzin E O as opposed to Jairzin O, Ronaldin E O as opposed to Ronaldin O
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Post by mosquito on Jun 26, 2013 20:05:59 GMT
Because they are stupidio  |
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Post by juansheet on Jun 26, 2013 20:13:27 GMT
Thanks geriatric I feel a lot better now !! don't be silly mosquitio !!!  |
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Post by cmc89 on Jun 26, 2013 20:18:49 GMT
I meant more, how do the footballers themselves pronounce it?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2013 21:00:08 GMT
Keep yer hair on juansheeteo
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 26, 2013 21:33:45 GMT
Yes, the simple answer is that that's how they're pronounced.  All names ending in -inho are diminutives. Ronaldinho's real name is Ronaldo, Paulinho is Paulo etc. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 26, 2013 21:44:58 GMT
Yes, the simple answer is that that's how they're pronounced. All names ending in -inho are diminutives. Ronaldinho's real name is Ronaldo, Paulinho is Paulo etc. They're not quite as cool in English. Ronald Junior, Paul Junior etc.* *That's if I haven't made an absolute hash of that. |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 26, 2013 21:53:45 GMT
Yes, the simple answer is that that's how they're pronounced. All names ending in -inho are diminutives. Ronaldinho's real name is Ronaldo, Paulinho is Paulo etc. They're not quite as cool in English. Ronald Junior, Paul Junior etc.* *That's if I haven't made an absolute hash of that. Haha. We don't really have the same thing in English but I guess adding -y to names is close, as in Johnny, Billy, Chrissy etc... |
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Post by wevewonit2times on Jun 26, 2013 22:10:07 GMT
Worst ones David Luish wtf?
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Post by wevewonit2times on Jun 26, 2013 22:12:00 GMT
Proper Brazilian names... Fred, Jo, Bernard ,Hulk wtf pmsl
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Post by stokeyouth on Jun 26, 2013 23:41:30 GMT
Proper Brazilian names... Fred, Jo, Bernard ,Hulk wtf pmsl It's not just like English though It's not Fred, Joe, Bernard. Instead of Bern-erd, it's pronounced Bern-ard. Weirdly, instead of Fred, it's pronounced Fre-deche, in Portuguese. And finally Jo is actually pronounced like 'how'. Sh-uaw |
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 27, 2013 2:07:31 GMT
Proper Brazilian names... Fred, Jo, Bernard ,Hulk wtf pmsl It's not just like English though It's not Fred, Joe, Bernard. Instead of Bern-erd, it's pronounced Bern-ard. Weirdly, instead of Fred, it's pronounced Fre-deche, in Portuguese. And finally Jo is actually pronounced like 'how'. Sh-uaw Sure you're not thinking of 'João' with that last one? 'Jo' should just be pronounced like the first part of Jose - something like 'Sho'. Another interesting one is the pronunciation of 'r' at the beginning of words - it's a sort of deep rasping 'h' sound. So Ronaldinho sounds more like 'Honaldinyo' in Portuguese. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 6:52:03 GMT
Love some of the names gone by, Socrates, Zico, Ronaldhino....Hulk...Fred...
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Post by richardparker on Jun 27, 2013 7:20:59 GMT
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Jun 27, 2013 7:25:06 GMT
AMECA! SJW is Headlesschikenho!  |
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 27, 2013 7:28:27 GMT
Are they really doing it that wrong? The fresh off the boat Brazilian kid in my football team pronounces it 'nio' too.
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Post by podolipotter on Jun 27, 2013 9:50:16 GMT
They pronounce it correctly in their language - which is Portuguese oddly - not Brazilian!? I would not be at all surprised if the Czechs pronounced those names somewhat differently as well. We do live in a multi-lingual world after all!
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Post by nicethrow on Jun 27, 2013 10:10:47 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2013 10:18:40 GMT
They pronounce it correctly in their language - which is Portuguese oddly - not Brazilian!? I would not be at all surprised if the Czechs pronounced those names somewhat differently as well. We do live in a multi-lingual world after all! not odd that they speak Portuguese really given that there isn't a "Brazilian language" for them to use anyway. before taking on Portuguese there were over 200 hundred different languages used by indigenous tribes (who never saw themselves as "Brazilian" anyway, they were simply members of their own tribe)so they'd never had one generic language at any point beforehand anyway. you have to remember that our language wasn't one we came up with independently and just called "English", it's largely a mishmash and adaptation of several Germanic languages that we adopted when being invaded/conquered over the years |
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Post by RichJonesy on Jun 27, 2013 11:35:45 GMT
I typed in Danny Collins and it came out 'Disco' |
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Post by Bognor Stokie on Jun 27, 2013 16:55:00 GMT
Tinhosa ? ?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jun 27, 2013 17:02:29 GMT
Not Brazilian but Uraguayan. Sebastian Coates of phlegm gargler fame is somehow pronounced Co-at-ez. What's wrong with Coates in our PC?
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Post by leicspotter on Jun 27, 2013 18:07:46 GMT
Robert Hoot Hoot Hoot he's a great big German...oo er  |
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Post by Arthurdollar on Jun 28, 2013 6:16:57 GMT
Juan keen.
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Post by unknown182 on Jun 28, 2013 10:29:17 GMT
Gervinho's real name is Gervais. If I was a player i'd ask the kit man to put -inho on the end of everyone's names just for laughs |
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