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Post by potterglen on Jun 23, 2013 17:25:10 GMT
I feel sad for anyone in this situation, however he's not the only one in this situation and he had it good for many years unlike some - shame he didn't invest in property. Still living in London? Nice and cheap there, your £700 a month wont buy much - but it will in Stoke.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jun 23, 2013 17:34:41 GMT
This thread's a good example of what's wrong with society today. Thatcher's children who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. It's all his own fualt, he's pissed it up the wall etc. Consider yourself lucky that you were born pefect. LG's got it right. Nothing to do with Thatcher's children, that's just a stupid political comment. Its to do with the fact that people are sick of Hudson's whining and not taking any responsibility himself/ He's had more money than most people who post on here probably and what's he done with it? My dad was assistant hall keeper at the town hall yet him and my mum saved and bought a house for themselves, didn't expect the state or the local council to support them. Why couldn't Hudson have done this?
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 23, 2013 17:41:18 GMT
Not saying I would send him anything mate just railing at the judgmental attitude of a lot on here. I can at least find it in my heart to have a little sympathy for a fellow human being (and one who brought me so much enjoyment in a red and white shirt) who is having a hard time whether he brought it on himself or not. Actually if someone WAS having a whipround for him I might be shamed into giving a few bob. I think Lawrieleslie has the best idea though. The PFA/clubs/FA/Premier League, whoever, ought to use some of the billions swilling round in football these days to try and help old players fallen on hard times. And to say it won't happen to today's players is bollocks. Look at Lee Hendrie. I have sympathy for him. Alcoholism is a terrible illness and ruins many lives - and it IS an illness. But, from his comments in that article, he isn't yet ready to admit that he has a problem. If we (or Chelsea and Stoke) raised a sum for him, I doubt he would use it wisely - just as he obviously didn't use his compensation wisely. Like a lot of us I give to deserving causes from time to time but only when I feel my money will be put to good use and make a difference. Sadly, I doubt if giving money to Huddy would make a difference - anymore than it would if I had given money to Gazza or George Best. I'd rather donate the money to charities working with the homeless or alcoholics, to be honest. Sadly you are right, I have seen many with drug and drink problems and they need practical help once they are in a position where they accept that they need to change and are up for the struggle that it is. There is a limited amount of help out there so it cannot be wasted on those who have no desire to change, that change starting with an acceptance of the problem. It is a situation that has been going on from well before Thatcher or even Lloyd George was born but it is devastating nevertheless and as you rightly say it is an illness. Money is not the answer at this stage. It is so sad to see a hero of mine in this situation.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 17:44:30 GMT
This thread's a good example of what's wrong with society today. Thatcher's children who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. It's all his own fualt, he's pissed it up the wall etc. Consider yourself lucky that you were born pefect. LG's got it right. Nobody is born perfect, but most people are able to retain a bit of responsibility for their own actions. This thread wouldnt even exist if he hadnt have got himself a story in the newspaper specifically telling everybody about his terrible situation and referring to the money that modern day players get and that Chelsea havent arranged anything for him. As has been said already, he's got a free roof over his head and £700 a month from the public coffers. £700, classes himself as a social drinker who can spend a full day in a boozer, yet doesn't even have a change of clothes? If people want to go public with a sob story then they should at least have their priorities right. If folk go to the papers, then they can expect people to talk about it. Folk like this should go speak to the guys sleeping rough in the subways at Charing Cross and ask them what they'd think to only £700 a month and a roof over their head. If you want to go on about Thatcher's children not giving a toss about anyone else, then whose children are to blame for a gimme more culture that we have now? This isn't a case of LG's got it right or wrong, its just various opinions. The best person to help Alan Hudson is himself. There are plenty of trusts, charities and programmes out there to help him. But until then, I'd far prefer any more public coffers to help those who are even worse off than him.
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Post by scfc75 on Jun 23, 2013 18:00:48 GMT
Do I have any sympathy for him (regardless of his past as a Stoke player) - yes. I have sympathy for anybody that finds themselves on hard times, whether it's their fault or not. Seeing another human being finding life tough is not nice.
Do any of his former clubs or the FA owe him anything at all? Absolutely not.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 23, 2013 18:05:07 GMT
This thread's a good example of what's wrong with society today. Thatcher's children who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. It's all his own fualt, he's pissed it up the wall etc. Consider yourself lucky that you were born pefect. LG's got it right. Nobody is born perfect, but most people are able to retain a bit of responsibility for their own actions. This thread wouldnt even exist if he hadnt have got himself a story in the newspaper specifically telling everybody about his terrible situation and referring to the money that modern day players get and that Chelsea havent arranged anything for him. As has been said already, he's got a free roof over his head and £700 a month from the public coffers. £700, classes himself as a social drinker who can spend a full day in a boozer, yet doesn't even have a change of clothes? If people want to go public with a sob story then they should at least have their priorities right. If folk go to the papers, then they can expect people to talk about it. Folk like this should go speak to the guys sleeping rough in the subways at Charing Cross and ask them what they'd think to only £700 a month and a roof over their head. If you want to go on about Thatcher's children not giving a toss about anyone else, then whose children are to blame for a gimme more culture that we have now? This isn't a case of LG's got it right or wrong, its just various opinions. The best person to help Alan Hudson is himself. There are plenty of trusts, charities and programmes out there to help him. But until then, I'd far prefer any more public coffers to help those who are even worse off than him. You are absolutely right in what you say. I wasn't commenting on the rights and wrongs of Hudson's addiction/situation. I was railing at the complete lack of compassion shown by some posters not just for another human being but for a footballing hero (albeit a flawed one) from our not so distant past.
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Post by mermaidsal on Jun 23, 2013 19:02:25 GMT
Not exactly on topic but looking through the pics of Huddy right back in his early Chelsea days, is that man gorgeous or is that man gorgeous? As for where he finds himself now... I'm sad to see him in this state, course I am, but I don't believe every word either - he does have places to go, I'm certain he'd never be short of friends or a place to stay up here, there's just a bit of a sense of a bloke who's sold his story for £5000 to pay the bookie off about that piece
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Post by 1tinypulis on Jun 23, 2013 19:11:13 GMT
Whilst huddy is my favourite ever stoke player, he has lived off his reputation in these parts for years. There are certain pubs he can walk in around here & never buy a drink.
As some have said , why can't he work behind the scenes on matchdays?
Real answer ! He wouldn't be trusted to turn up etc..........
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Post by larrypotter on Jun 23, 2013 19:37:40 GMT
This thread's a good example of what's wrong with society today. Thatcher's children who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. It's all his own fualt, he's pissed it up the wall etc. Consider yourself lucky that you were born pefect. LG's got it right. Nothing to do with Thatcher's children, that's just a stupid political comment. Its to do with the fact that people are sick of Hudson's whining and not taking any responsibility himself/ He's had more money than most people who post on here probably and what's he done with it? My dad was assistant hall keeper at the town hall yet him and my mum saved and bought a house for themselves, didn't expect the state or the local council to support them. Why couldn't Hudson have done this? Not such a stupid political comment. Thatcher's politics was based on a self centred I'm alright Jack mentality with a lack of care and compassion for others and that manifests itself in today's society and political regime where people with problems are looked down upon, as evidenced by some of the comments on here. Open your eyes and walk into a foodbank.
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Post by chesterfieldstokie on Jun 23, 2013 19:58:16 GMT
Hudson's idiocy is nothing to do with politics, people have always had opinions this is nothing to do with politics.
Get off your soapbox and take your agenda to where it belongs.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Jun 23, 2013 19:58:41 GMT
This thread's a good example of what's wrong with society today. Thatcher's children who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. It's all his own fualt, he's pissed it up the wall etc. Consider yourself lucky that you were born pefect. LG's got it right. No, what this thread is about is reflecting opinions of everybody and quite frankly every poster is right in some way shape or form. Alan has faults and demons he can't escape he always has. Equally someone who means a lot to this city shouldn't be in this state but what's the answer? If you handed him 100k tomorrow from a testimonial or such like what would he do with it, invest it in a house or waste it? god only knows but he desperately needs help from people who can help him and that doesn't mean people taking him out for a drink down the pub. He needs specialist help and assistance but is it too late now are we too far down the road? As I said god only knows. I can see both sides of the argument.
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Post by Arthurdollar on Jun 23, 2013 21:23:10 GMT
UPDATE.....Huddy must have cashed his Sunday Mirror payment as he was in the Smithie in Wolstanton AND not his Hostel in London..Pissed as a cunt, accepting drinks from locals. Down and out my fukin arse. Sorry my friends, this man is pathetic.
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Post by 1tinypulis on Jun 23, 2013 21:35:13 GMT
So was this tonight then Arthur ?
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Post by Arthurdollar on Jun 23, 2013 21:44:57 GMT
Last night his story was wrote in a PUB in the smoke in the week.
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Post by 1tinypulis on Jun 23, 2013 21:57:42 GMT
Fukin priceless.:-$
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Post by Sfance on Jun 23, 2013 22:02:17 GMT
It may be sad, given his footballing akills, but what a loser!!!!!!!!! What it has to do with Thatcher, I have no idea.
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Post by f1rew0rks on Jun 23, 2013 22:05:03 GMT
UPDATE.....Huddy must have cashed his Sunday Mirror payment as he was in the Smithie in Wolstanton AND not his Hostel in London..Pissed as a cunt, accepting drinks from locals. Down and out my fukin arse. Sorry my friends, this man is pathetic. he'll still have some bleeding heart liberal telling us its not his fault!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 23, 2013 22:41:16 GMT
I stopped and spoke to him a few months ago when we had all the snow, he was walking up Hamil Road and was really struggling to walk. I gave him a lift to a terraced house just up from the fail he was staying at very sad sight for one of my hero's.
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Post by mar1386 on Jun 24, 2013 7:31:34 GMT
UPDATE.....Huddy must have cashed his Sunday Mirror payment as he was in the Smithie in Wolstanton AND not his Hostel in London..Pissed as a cunt, accepting drinks from locals. Down and out my fukin arse. Sorry my friends, this man is pathetic. Looks like someone's done him a favour and bought him a train ticket up to Stoke - let's hope they had the good sense to make it a Single. Like others have said, he could instantly help himself out by moving to Stoke, where the cost of living is much lower than the smoke, and he'd be among friends.
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Post by jonnybravo on Jun 24, 2013 7:41:53 GMT
Last time I heard he was living above the grapes pub in newchapel,saw him Afew times in kidsgrove last year hanging around the bookies,another person who's life has been taken control of by alcohol
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Post by dadofsam on Jun 24, 2013 9:04:04 GMT
Porr guy seems to think the world (Chelsea & Stoke in particular)owes him a living. Needs to take a long look in the mirror.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 9:56:01 GMT
Not being sanctomonius or judgemental in anyway, but if I saw him in a Pub the last thing I'd do is buy him a beer.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 24, 2013 10:04:07 GMT
This thread's a good example of what's wrong with society today. Thatcher's children who couldn't give a toss about anyone else. It's all his own fualt, he's pissed it up the wall etc. Consider yourself lucky that you were born pefect. LG's got it right. to me this guy epitomises what is wrong with society today
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Post by britsabroad on Jun 24, 2013 11:50:17 GMT
£700 a month? Am i missing something here? Theres millions of people in this country living on less than that. I genuinely feel sorry for anyone whose life is at a low point, but this smacks to me of trying to guilt trip Chelsea into bunging him some cash.
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Post by gb on Jun 24, 2013 12:08:24 GMT
Perhaps Hudson should have a word with a pensioner . He had more money in 4 years than most today will have in a lifetime ..
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Post by Arthurdollar on Jun 24, 2013 12:16:04 GMT
Last time I heard he was living above the grapes pub in newchapel,saw him Afew times in kidsgrove last year hanging around the bookies,another person who's life has been taken control of by alcohol Yes he was living the 'Primmy' Princess Royal in Dresden for a while and then he moved to the Grapes, Newchapel and was welcomed by the Landlord Jimmy. Not sure if its true but Landlords wife gave him his marching orders recently.
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Post by nott1 on Jun 24, 2013 13:38:38 GMT
This the sort of life people lead when they vote Tory. They don't give a shit except if you are a millionaire!
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Post by iglugluk on Jun 24, 2013 17:44:36 GMT
Pity he was a great player for Stoke in his time.
Got to say there are some hard-hearted, judgmental posters on this thread, he has quite obviously fallen on hard times and I wish him the best.Regardless of his drinking he has quite clearly had some really bad luck mixed in with his really good luck.
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Post by PotteringThrough on Jun 28, 2013 19:01:25 GMT
When you see how much Stoke paid a number of footballers on our books this past season who were never if ever used. On a previous post I worked out we paid out over £10m in wages last season on around 13 players who played a handful of games between them. Can't blame them - Football is a different beast now.
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Post by f1rew0rks on Jun 28, 2013 19:19:53 GMT
This the sort of life people lead when they vote Tory. They don't give a shit except if you are a millionaire! what an absolute load of bollox. Lets all have a whip round so he can rot his liver even more Maybe it would be better if HE HIMSELF tried to help himself by accepting that his predicament is not the doing of Chelsea, Stoke, the driver of the car that he had an accident or his ex wife but more to do with his own actions. Once he can do that he may be on the road to recovery, otherwise he (and anyone who gives him money) will just kill himself slowly.
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