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Post by greenstones on Jun 20, 2013 20:32:08 GMT
Fascinating programme with Danny reflecting on and giving insight into life under Pulis.... Really interesting!
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Post by tayterz on Jun 21, 2013 7:25:28 GMT
What did he say?
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 21, 2013 8:22:57 GMT
He does come across really well, I'd imagine he's got a future in broadcasting when he hangs up his boots. It mainly revolved the topic of the moment, Directors of Football and how it worked at Stoke. He basically said that Pulis ruled every area of Stoke and Rudge didn't have any real influence, he was just another pair of hands.
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Post by tayterz on Jun 21, 2013 8:31:07 GMT
Cheers Shiekh  |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 9:50:36 GMT
Interseting comments on training and in particular when we played Chelsea a couple of years ago TP noted how they played through the middle of the pitch, so the groundsman was ordered to grow the grass longer down the middle of the pitch and training was taken during the lead up to the game at the Brit and involved a 5 a side game down the centre of the full length pitch, think Higgy said we went on to draw the game.
They also had some guy on talking about stats and prozone, and it was interesting to hear that under TP the games where we had the most posession were the games we commonly lost.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 11:02:14 GMT
...and it was interesting to hear that under TP the games where we had the most posession were the games we commonly lost. I can imagine the stats for that though were played 1, lost 1 |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 11:04:05 GMT
...and it was interesting to hear that under TP the games where we had the most posession were the games we commonly lost. I can imagine the stats for that though were played 1, lost 1  ....that's true |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 11:08:02 GMT
He does come across really well, I'd imagine he's got a future in broadcasting when he hangs up his boots. It mainly revolved the topic of the moment, Directors of Football and how it worked at Stoke. He basically said that Pulis ruled every area of Stoke and Rudge didn't have any real influence, he was just another pair of hands. somehow think things may have changes somewhat now though |
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Post by skip on Jun 21, 2013 11:09:57 GMT
Interseting comments on training and in particular when we played Chelsea a couple of years ago TP noted how they played through the middle of the pitch, so the groundsman was ordered to grow the grass longer down the middle of the pitch and training was taken during the lead up to the game at the Brit and involved a 5 a side game down the centre of the full length pitch, think Higgy said we went on to draw the game. Anecdotes like this make me cringe. |
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Post by lsstokie on Jun 21, 2013 11:39:06 GMT
I listened to 90% of it as I was on a long car trip, he did come across well.
What interested me most was the fact that he had similar views to those held by most on here for example,
Fuller was a great outlet in the first two years, you could rely on him to make something magical happen.
That it worked for the first 2/3 years very well, but not the last two years, because other team “found us out, they simply dropped of us, competed in the air and won back possession”
He also said we tried to get different players in last year and change it but too often kept reverting back to type.
By the way when asked specifically he did agree that we were “very much like Wimbledon”
He also gave some stories about the tricks TP used to get up to make it work.
Danny Kelly who was hosting with him, tried to suggest it could be a way forward for England because we lack the technical abilities of a Spain etc, but DH said it would fail, because we were only successful at home for a reason, we manipulated the pitch etc to make it work.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 21, 2013 11:45:57 GMT
I listened to 90% of it as I was on a long car trip, he did come across well. What interested me most was the fact that he had similar views to those held by most on here for example, Fuller was a great outlet in the first two years, you could rely on him to make something magical happen. That it worked for the first 2/3 years very well, but not the last two years, because other team “found us out, they simply dropped of us, competed in the air and won back possession” He also said we tried to get different players in last year and change it but too often kept reverting back to type. By the way when asked specifically he did agree that we were “very much like Wimbledon” He also gave some stories about the tricks TP used to get up to make it work. Danny Kelly who was hosting with him, tried to suggest it could be a way forward for England because we lack the technical abilities of a Spain etc, but DH said it would fail, because we were only successful at home for a reason, we manipulated the pitch etc to make it work. Good insight from Higgy. I just hope that 'Higginbottom's bar' isnt now renamed as '3'  |
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Jun 21, 2013 12:56:09 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Jun 21, 2013 20:41:48 GMT
Interseting comments on training and in particular when we played Chelsea a couple of years ago TP noted how they played through the middle of the pitch, so the groundsman was ordered to grow the grass longer down the middle of the pitch and training was taken during the lead up to the game at the Brit and involved a 5 a side game down the centre of the full length pitch, think Higgy said we went on to draw the game. Anecdotes like this make me cringe. Really? I find them a great laugh. I wish we'd completely turn up the pitch and played on a mudbath, like in the good old days when football was played properly. It's not like other teams don't try the daft tricks on us anyway, moving advertising boards closer to the track, selectively watering the pitch and so on. It's just home advantage. |
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Post by skip on Jun 21, 2013 21:08:10 GMT
I get home advantage but, y'know, Chelsea play down the middle so seven days pitch growth will make the difference? Maybe I underestimate professional standard pitch maintenance but would it really help us that much?
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Post by march4 on Jun 21, 2013 21:46:43 GMT
Interseting comments on training and in particular when we played Chelsea a couple of years ago TP noted how they played through the middle of the pitch, so the groundsman was ordered to grow the grass longer down the middle of the pitch and training was taken during the lead up to the game at the Brit and involved a 5 a side game down the centre of the full length pitch, think Higgy said we went on to draw the game. Anecdotes like this make me cringe. Because Waddo never had the grass killed on the pitch at the Vic and he definitely didn't get the fire brigade in on the morning of a match to pour 1000s of gallons of water onto it. |
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Post by lastoftheldk on Jun 21, 2013 21:59:12 GMT
Anecdotes like this make me cringe. Because Waddo never had the grass killed on the pitch at the Vic and he definitely didn't get the fire brigade in on the morning of a match to pour 1000s of gallons of water onto it. Cool TP |
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Post by smiler_andy on Jun 21, 2013 22:01:15 GMT
Anecdotes like this make me cringe. Because Waddo never had the grass killed on the pitch at the Vic and he definitely didn't get the fire brigade in on the morning of a match to pour 1000s of gallons of water onto it. My father worked at the Mich when I was a kid and he used to come home from work mentioning that the fire brigade were down doing the pitch  |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 22, 2013 1:09:30 GMT
I get home advantage but, y'know, Chelsea play down the middle so seven days pitch growth will make the difference? Maybe I underestimate professional standard pitch maintenance but would it really help us that much? Barcelona players and coaching staff moan about it. So much so that they want FIFA/UEFA to introduce a rule for a standardised length of grass. It was Xavi; "He also attacked Madrid for their tactic of not cutting the Bernabeu grass in the first leg. "It makes no sense," he said. "There should be a law about the length of the grass. It is important for the fans and for the quality of football. There are laws about everything but there is no rule about the length of the grass. People don't want dry pitches with long grass." www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/european/real-complaint-rejected-as-bar231a-feud-deepens-2278093.htmlwww.barcelonafootballblog.com/13832/note-san-siros-pitch/And I read on a Man City forum from a bloke who went on a tour or something of their new training ground building in progress. They're having an area of pitches where the groundsman can prepare pitches for different conditions so they players can get used to it beforehand. Stoke and our long grass was specifically mentioned by the bloke doing the tour. |
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Post by alster on Jun 22, 2013 7:07:43 GMT
I get home advantage but, y'know, Chelsea play down the middle so seven days pitch growth will make the difference? Maybe I underestimate professional standard pitch maintenance but would it really help us that much? Much as I didn't like the bloke its actually a demonstration of really good management by Pulis. You want to try everything however minor to try to give you side the edge. The great Milan side that included Gullit and other top players doctored the pitch creating gradient little hillocks almost at their optimum shooting range from outside the box.. As I say I really respect that depth of thinking that leaves no stone unturned in the quest for that little thing that makes the difference. |
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Post by Northy on Jun 22, 2013 20:12:41 GMT
I get home advantage but, y'know, Chelsea play down the middle so seven days pitch growth will make the difference? Maybe I underestimate professional standard pitch maintenance but would it really help us that much? Yes, with the UV lights you can grow the grass 6mm a day |
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jun 22, 2013 20:26:51 GMT
I get home advantage but, y'know, Chelsea play down the middle so seven days pitch growth will make the difference? Maybe I underestimate professional standard pitch maintenance but would it really help us that much? Much as I didn't like the bloke its actually a demonstration of really good management by Pulis. You want to try everything however minor to try to give you side the edge. The great Milan side that included Gullit and other top players doctored the pitch creating gradient little hillocks almost at their optimum shooting range from outside the box.. As I say I really respect that depth of thinking that leaves no stone unturned in the quest for that little thing that makes the difference. Got to agree with you there Alster. Listening to Dave Brailsford (Team GB cycling coach and the bloke who masterminded Wiggins victory in the tour de france) banged on about 'the aggregate of marginal gains' basically saying if you did or improved loads of things by a small percentage then they can add up to big gains. So little tweaks like long grass in the centre of the pitch really can add up. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 22, 2013 20:31:20 GMT
The length of the grass certainly didn't affect our game did it?
We very rarely used the fcuking thing.
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Post by Clem Fandango on Jun 22, 2013 20:39:55 GMT
The length of the grass certainly didn't affect our game did it? We very rarely used the fcuking thing. |
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Post by alansuddick on Jun 23, 2013 8:14:30 GMT
Interesting when asked if England should adapt a stoke style he said no.for the last few years when england have played anyone of note, (spain, italy etc) its just like watching stoke, little possession given the runaround and relying on set pieces for any chance of scoring.
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....that's true
