tayterz
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Post by tayterz on Jun 13, 2013 8:15:32 GMT
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 13, 2013 8:33:16 GMT
Seems a sensible and balanced policy. We do need a mixture at the right price. An experienced player with no resale value is ok as long as you don't spend a fortune for him and see the cost as spread over 2 or 3 seasons.
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Post by ukcstokie on Jun 13, 2013 8:34:58 GMT
Not really a U-turn. Just clarifying that we are to be pragmatic and sensible in our transfer policy.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 8:43:37 GMT
Its just common sense
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 8:44:48 GMT
It was never going to be a restriction and the budget was never going to be slashed. Basically if the right player comes along we will spend but essentially we want to be smarter and more efficient.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 13, 2013 8:57:29 GMT
Seems a sensible and balanced policy. We do need a mixture at the right price. An experienced player with no resale value is ok as long as you don't spend a fortune for him and see the cost as spread over 2 or 3 seasons. "the cost spread over 2 or 3 seasons"......you mean like Peter Crouch? Even a player like Darren Bent will cost several million pounds and that's a discounted price too! Alternatively, you could buy a young star watched by several 'Prem' clubs and then signs for a small fortune...........just like Conor Wickham? Who would rather you would have signed? Crouch, a regular in the team, who according to ESPN had the highest goals plus assists or Conor Wickham who hardly got a game for Sunderland? Experience usually means age unless a player breaks into the first team at a very early age but then that player will cost a great deal of money. About the only good deals are 'frees' but then the player asks either for a signing on fee and/or very high wages. However you cut this, "Prem' football is a very expensive business and 'the family' has to understand this.
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 13, 2013 9:08:11 GMT
Seems a sensible and balanced policy. We do need a mixture at the right price. An experienced player with no resale value is ok as long as you don't spend a fortune for him and see the cost as spread over 2 or 3 seasons. "the cost spread over 2 or 3 seasons"......you mean like Peter Crouch? Even a player like Darren Bent will cost several million pounds and that's a discounted price too! Alternatively, you could buy a young star watched by several 'Prem' clubs and then signs for a small fortune...........just like Conor Wickham? Who would rather you would have signed? Crouch, a regular in the team, who according to ESPN had the highest goals plus assists or Conor Wickham who hardly got a game for Sunderland? Experience usually means age unless a player breaks into the first team at a very early age but then that player will cost a great deal of money. About the only good deals are 'frees' but then the player asks either for a signing on fee and/or very high wages. However you cut this "Prem' football is a very expensive business and 'the family' has to understand this. Was thinking more of the Bendtner for £3m than Crouch who was over priced which is why I included a proviso about value for money. We need the likes of Delap or Higgy to get the attitude of young players right. Other clubs get the balance right and I see no reason why we shouldn't.
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Post by thebet365 on Jun 13, 2013 9:12:43 GMT
It's only a U-turn to those that read things into Pulis's interview that wasn't there.
It was never gonna be a no budget, no over 25's policy. Just a gentle ease away from the stray dogs home approach we've taken with many expensive players recently.
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Post by nicholasjalcock on Jun 13, 2013 9:14:23 GMT
"the cost spread over 2 or 3 seasons"......you mean like Peter Crouch? Even a player like Darren Bent will cost several million pounds and that's a discounted price too! Alternatively, you could buy a young star watched by several 'Prem' clubs and then signs for a small fortune...........just like Conor Wickham? Who would rather you would have signed? Crouch, a regular in the team, who according to ESPN had the highest goals plus assists or Conor Wickham who hardly got a game for Sunderland? Experience usually means age unless a player breaks into the first team at a very early age but then that player will cost a great deal of money. About the only good deals are 'frees' but then the player asks either for a signing on fee and/or very high wages. However you cut this "Prem' football is a very expensive business and 'the family' has to understand this. Was thinking more of the Bendtner for £3m than Crouch who was over priced which is why I included a proviso about value for money. We need the likes of Delap or Higgy to get the attitude of young players right. Other clubs get the balance right and I see no reason why we shouldn't. Bendtner will deffo get the attitude of the young players right! How many seasons in a row did he win 'The Gooners Asshole of The Year Award'?
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 13, 2013 9:36:01 GMT
I was talking in terms of price and value. I agree that some two year olds could teach Bendtner!
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Post by robwahlmann on Jun 13, 2013 10:24:03 GMT
Hopefully never £10M+ for a 30-year-old player again anyway!
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Post by lordb on Jun 13, 2013 11:48:59 GMT
It's only a U-turn to those that read things into Pulis's interview that wasn't there. It was never gonna be a no budget, no over 25's policy. Just a gentle ease away from the stray dogs home approach we've taken with many expensive players recently. this
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 13, 2013 12:10:02 GMT
It's only a U-turn to those that read things into Pulis's interview that wasn't there. It was never gonna be a no budget, no over 25's policy. Just a gentle ease away from the stray dogs home approach we've taken with many expensive players recently. this Sorry but I am old, what does "this" mean? Not being rude but I don't have a clue what you are trying to say.
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Post by cmc89 on Jun 13, 2013 12:33:55 GMT
Sorry but I am old, what does "this" mean? Not being rude but I don't have a clue what you are trying to say. He's saying "this is what I was going to say. I agree"
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Post by stokiejoe on Jun 13, 2013 13:00:29 GMT
Sorry but I am old, what does "this" mean? Not being rude but I don't have a clue what you are trying to say. He's saying "this is what I was going to say. I agree" Thanks
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Post by swampySCFC on Jun 13, 2013 15:12:21 GMT
It would be illogical to suggest a lack of funds being allocated to transfers given the windfall we have received from Sky. However because of that windfall clubs will be asking stupid prices and players stupid wages so I guess the Cartwright control measure is invaluable for Coates plans and the scouting network will be tasked with finding the value
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Jun 13, 2013 15:31:08 GMT
Sorry but I am old, what does "this" mean? Not being rude but I don't have a clue what you are trying to say. He's saying "this is what I was going to say. I agree" This!
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Post by seventhrowscreamer on Jun 13, 2013 17:52:48 GMT
Coates knows that Hughes has made great use of free transfers in the past. To be fair, Hughes is very resourceful in the transfer market. Smart moves are afoot!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 18:21:30 GMT
But will we learn the lesson of leaving it until aug 31st
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Post by thesandbankskid on Jun 13, 2013 19:25:52 GMT
Is there not a loan market? We seem to buy everybody instead of loaning them to see if they settle in
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Post by Deleted on Jun 13, 2013 19:37:03 GMT
But will we learn the lesson of leaving it until aug 31st sometimes its totally out of our hands.
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seths
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Post by seths on Jun 13, 2013 20:37:19 GMT
Seems a sensible and balanced policy. We do need a mixture at the right price. An experienced player with no resale value is ok as long as you don't spend a fortune for him and see the cost as spread over 2 or 3 seasons. "the cost spread over 2 or 3 seasons"......you mean like Peter Crouch? Even a player like Darren Bent will cost several million pounds and that's a discounted price too! Alternatively, you could buy a young star watched by several 'Prem' clubs and then signs for a small fortune...........just like Conor Wickham? Who would rather you would have signed? Crouch, a regular in the team, who according to ESPN had the highest goals plus assists or Conor Wickham who hardly got a game for Sunderland? Experience usually means age unless a player breaks into the first team at a very early age but then that player will cost a great deal of money. About the only good deals are 'frees' but then the player asks either for a signing on fee and/or very high wages. However you cut this, "Prem' football is a very expensive business and 'the family' has to understand this. It's much more efficient to spend on wages than transfer fees. 75-80% of league position determined by wage bill.
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