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Post by cousindupree on Jun 5, 2013 8:12:35 GMT
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Post by samdamule on Jun 5, 2013 8:22:49 GMT
wouldn't touch either of them with a barge pole, that picture of bramble says it all and quite frankly di canio is a racist wanker!
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Post by heisenberg on Jun 5, 2013 8:24:07 GMT
The insight of an out of contract, overweight useless waste of space that is Titus bramble!!
Never heard anyone at Swindon moan before or after he left!
Wonder why he would bemoan someone who hasn't offered him a new contract and clearly thinks he's shite!!
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 5, 2013 8:26:37 GMT
To be honest the kind of discipline that he demands as a manager is not that unlike what you find in some corporations, where rules are needed and obeyed. If you are told to turn up to a meeting or training session in normal work hours that should be pretty standard that you get in trouble if you dont attend.
Unfortunately football players are a different breed to use mere mortals. Its the players who have an over-inflated ego and want to work as and when they want to.
Di Canio's style may have worked 30 years ago in the old First Division but not with todays Premier League PrimaDonnas.
Alex Ferguson alluded to this a number of times. He said that he has had to totally change his style of dealing with players ever since the introduction of the Premier League and vaste amounts of money. He calmed down a lot but still managed to always get respect from players, and shipping them off if they didnt
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 8:35:11 GMT
Fair play to him.
Footballers don't exactly lead difficult lives. Their jobs aren't the most tasking occupations.
I imagine doctors, nurses, police officers, armed forces etc. work a lot harder, in more difficult conditions, for a lot less money.
They don't exactly work long shifts. It isn't too much to ask them to follow guidelines and rules imposed by their boss.
The problem is, most players think they are greater than anybody else in this world due to the monumental amounts of money they earn.
There aren't many examples where the employee is paid significantly better than their boss.
Fair play to PDC for taking a stand. Players have it way too easy.
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Post by Claus_SCFC on Jun 5, 2013 8:36:39 GMT
Critizings players in the media instead of telling them face to face is poor management. Titus speaks a lot more sense than what I would have expected from him.
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Post by SCFC92 on Jun 5, 2013 8:55:39 GMT
Fair play to him. Footballers don't exactly lead difficult lives. Their jobs aren't the most tasking occupations. I imagine doctors, nurses, police officers, armed forces etc. work a lot harder, in more difficult conditions, for a lot less money. They don't exactly work long shifts. It isn't too much to ask them to follow guidelines and rules imposed by their boss. The problem is, most players think they are greater than anybody else in this world due to the monumental amounts of money they earn. There aren't many examples where the employee is paid significantly better than their boss. Fair play to PDC for taking a stand. Players have it way too easy. EXACTLY mate! |
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Post by metalhead on Jun 5, 2013 9:01:42 GMT
I despise Di Canio. The guy is a prize cunt, and I would have happily seen Sunderland go down with him running the show. Hopefully, his lame attempts to hog the media limelight will be their undoing as they slumber back in the Championship where they belong.
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Post by mt on Jun 5, 2013 9:23:40 GMT
Fair play to him. Footballers don't exactly lead difficult lives. Their jobs aren't the most tasking occupations. I imagine doctors, nurses, police officers, armed forces etc. work a lot harder, in more difficult conditions, for a lot less money. They don't exactly work long shifts. It isn't too much to ask them to follow guidelines and rules imposed by their boss. The problem is, most players think they are greater than anybody else in this world due to the monumental amounts of money they earn. There aren't many examples where the employee is paid significantly better than their boss. Fair play to PDC for taking a stand. Players have it way too easy. It`s the way the market works. It`s not the players fault, they just take advantage of the way it works today and their solid contracts. It`s the clubs, supporters and everything around football that is to blame and leads to situations like this( because they don`t take action one or another way ). In Germany you would have to pay approx 90£ for a season ticket to watch Bayern Munich at Allianz. That`s a start. Give football back to the ( working-class )people by reducing the ticket prizes, reduce salary to the players and others connected to the industry and after a while you will probably get rid of spoiled players too... |
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Post by cousindupree on Jun 5, 2013 9:46:01 GMT
Fair play to him. Footballers don't exactly lead difficult lives. Their jobs aren't the most tasking occupations. I imagine doctors, nurses, police officers, armed forces etc. work a lot harder, in more difficult conditions, for a lot less money. They don't exactly work long shifts. It isn't too much to ask them to follow guidelines and rules imposed by their boss. The problem is, most players think they are greater than anybody else in this world due to the monumental amounts of money they earn. There aren't many examples where the employee is paid significantly better than their boss. Fair play to PDC for taking a stand. Players have it way too easy. Or Di Canio might be an autocratic dictator of a boss who is a nightmare to work for. Added to this Di Canio's obvious volatility and his 'its all about me' antics on the pitch side you have a pretty dangerous cocktail for unrest in any work place.Yes go on Paulo put them all in their place and see what you have left with...good luck. I guess those thinking Di Canio is a 'breath of fresh air' haven't worked for such a boss themselves |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 9:59:19 GMT
Fair play to him. Footballers don't exactly lead difficult lives. Their jobs aren't the most tasking occupations. I imagine doctors, nurses, police officers, armed forces etc. work a lot harder, in more difficult conditions, for a lot less money. They don't exactly work long shifts. It isn't too much to ask them to follow guidelines and rules imposed by their boss. The problem is, most players think they are greater than anybody else in this world due to the monumental amounts of money they earn. There aren't many examples where the employee is paid significantly better than their boss. Fair play to PDC for taking a stand. Players have it way too easy. Or Di Canio might be an autocratic dictator of a boss who is a nightmare to work for. Added to this Di Canio's obvious volatility and his 'its all about me' antics on the pitch side you have a pretty dangerous cocktail for unrest in any work place.Yes go on Paulo put them all in their place and see what you have left with...good luck. I guess those thinking Di Canio is a 'breath of fresh air' haven't worked for such a boss themselves Yeah he must be a terrible boss to work for. He took over a hapless bunch of players who didn't look like they had a performance or win in them and instantly gave them all a lift. They turned in a couple of brilliant performances and he ultimately led them to survival. Doesn't sound like the kind of thing that players would do for somebody they don't want to play for. Time will tell whether he can deliver next season but I don't see how you can label him some kind of terrible, dictator like boss already. Any manager worth his salt will lay down the law to a certain extent. They have to put their stamp on things. Look at the big personalities, and great players, that Fergie has shipped out over the years for breaking his rules. Imposing certain curfews, and expecting certain behaviour of your players, doesn't make you an unreasonable manger that nobody wants to play for. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 10:04:21 GMT
The insight of an out of contract, overweight useless waste of space that is Titus bramble!! Never heard anyone at Swindon moan before or after he left! Wonder why he would bemoan someone who hasn't offered him a new contract and clearly thinks he's shite!! you have never heard anyone at Swindon moan???? www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2305127/Dont-fall-Paolo-Di-Canio-youll-end-Bomb-Squad-theres-way-there.htmlThere is no way premier league players will put up with him. Even if you think they are over paid, pampered, spoilt and arrogant, no other manger treats his players this way. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Jun 5, 2013 10:08:07 GMT
We all know that many, or even most, Premier League footballers are overpaid spoiled brats. But I can't see how not telling them of a perceived problem to their face and then criticising them in the media is going to help matters. Bramble may be telling lies when he says he had not been informed of the weights session he missed. But if he isn't telling lies and he had not been told of the session, then a fine or two weeks wages is completely out of order. What worked at Swindon may not work in the Prem. You can only push a £millionaire so far. If you push him too far he'll stop and think - "I don't have to take this, I am rich enough never to need to work again - AND I am still under contract for 3 more years."
I can't see De Canio's methods working in the Prem unless he is prepared to take advice and learn some proper man management skills.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 10:23:20 GMT
He'll be out by Christmas IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 10:25:34 GMT
Probably.
They did the same with MON the following season after he'd kept them up the year before.
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Post by Will_75 on Jun 5, 2013 10:27:02 GMT
i hate the way he juts his chin out and straightens his jacket every two minutes, like a man who's just had a wee dab...
that and his brainless "cultural" defence of fascism, obv.
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Post by Godo on Jun 5, 2013 11:26:31 GMT
Yes Bramble can certainly teach the kids about "mistakes", he's made virtually every one on and off the field and has never stopped making them virtually every time he's played. A defender with the concentration span of a moth on cocaine in a light bulb testing factory isn't likely to be a lot of help to the next generation of centre backs. Never mind 2 weeks wages he should have to give 'em all back!! Hopefully fuck face Bruce will sign him for Hull and then that'll be one of the relgation spots decided.
......oh and Di Canio is a twat too but on this occasion I know who I trust to have actually remembered who was supposed to be doing what at training when the choice is between razor brained Di Canio and sponge brained Bramble!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:11:40 GMT
his style is the roy kean style. shot your mouth off / threaten your players with violence if they dont perform / and if they dont perform fight them in the tunnel and then say u was only trying shake his hand but missed and grabbed his throat
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Post by finchy on Jun 5, 2013 12:28:11 GMT
I despise Di Canio. The guy is a prize cunt, and I would have happily seen Sunderland go down with him running the show. Hopefully, his lame attempts to hog the media limelight will be their undoing as they slumber back in the Championship where they belong. Ffs this is what makes us look like idiots, where they belong??? Explain? |
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Post by generationex on Jun 5, 2013 12:34:43 GMT
Macari has often commented on player discipline in the modern game.
As he points out how do you boss a man that can earn enough in a year to never need work again?
It's the main benefit of earning serious money, no one can force you to do anything - it's actually called "F off money" in the city.
PDC is either just a nutter or naive if he thinks he can bully players today.
Anyone would think he admired the dictatorial approach...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 12:40:50 GMT
They are going to struggle to sign decent players, who would want to play for Di Canio?
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Post by metalhead on Jun 5, 2013 13:00:17 GMT
I despise Di Canio. The guy is a prize cunt, and I would have happily seen Sunderland go down with him running the show. Hopefully, his lame attempts to hog the media limelight will be their undoing as they slumber back in the Championship where they belong. Ffs this is what makes us look like idiots, where they belong??? Explain? They're a Yo-Yo club... I didn't think it was that hard to work out. |
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Post by finchy on Jun 5, 2013 13:32:33 GMT
Ffs this is what makes us look like idiots, where they belong??? Explain? They're a Yo-Yo club... I didn't think it was that hard to work out. So because they went down a few times in the past they now deserve to go down and stay there? |
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Post by metalhead on Jun 5, 2013 14:06:11 GMT
They're a Yo-Yo club... I didn't think it was that hard to work out. So because they went down a few times in the past they now deserve to go down and stay there? Oh come on... take it easy mate. I just don't like Sunderland... is it really necessary to dissect my opinion? |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2013 14:13:41 GMT
A team belongs in the league they are in.
It doesn't happen by luck.
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Post by block23er on Jun 5, 2013 15:18:02 GMT
I gave up reading when he compared fathead Bruce and Martinez to the late great Bobby Robson,Bramble is probably the most overrated Centre half in the Prem.
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Post by partickpotter on Jun 5, 2013 21:28:21 GMT
Bramble or Di Canio. I know which one I'd back. And it ain't that fat useless excuse for a defender.
But Di Canio has a tough gig trying to persuade a bunch of over paid under achieving fuckwits to put in the necessary hard work to succeed in football. He'll be out by Xmas.
I love football, but I fucking hate so much about the game today; particularly lazy mercenary underachieving egocentric footballers. Yes Mr N'zonzi, I am thinking of you.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Jun 5, 2013 21:38:18 GMT
Respect is a two way street isnt it. If players want PDC to respect them and their needs, they need to respect PDC and his rules.
Simples. It's not exactly a big ask, and not exactly a revelation that a business should enforce rules upon its employees.
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Post by Roy Cropper on Jun 6, 2013 0:57:44 GMT
Amazed by how many people are so quick to back Di Canio. He's a first class prick from what I've seen, but hey, what a "character".  It isn't as if Bramble has a history of being an awkward player either is it? Perhaps I'm wrong but I can't believe some people are so supportive of a manager who is clearly fucking mental. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Jun 6, 2013 1:38:49 GMT
I gave up reading when he compared fathead Bruce and Martinez to the late great Bobby Robson,Bramble is probably the most overrated Centre half in the Prem. Or did you stop because you clearly can't read, he wasn't comparing them, just saying hes worked for some great managers, its his opinion and hes entitled to it as hes actually worked with them. I'm a bit surprised of how people are slating Bramble, its his view, and it seems a view of quite a few others that have had the misfortune to play for Di Canio, whats how good a play he is/was got to do with anything. |
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