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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on May 26, 2013 23:15:17 GMT
Just been looking at the board and reading the various poster's views of the candidates names being banded about. None of the names mentioned set my pulse racing. On other threads I've made my almost violent dislike of Gob-Shite Hughes perfectly clear. The likes of Martinez, Di Matteo, O'Neill leave me decidedly underwhelmed.
I've a feeling that the powers that be have done their homework and have a preferred candidate in mind but are playing their cards close to their chest. They are probably quite happy with all this speculation as it distracts people's attention whilst the PC/JC etc. get on with getting their man.
I started to think of other candidates who haven't been mentioned but would fit the bill of a young,vibrant manager who would buy into this new direction and emphasis on youth. The name I came up with is Uwe Rosler. I did a bit of research and the bit that's interesting is a couple of quotes from an interview he did with the Guardian talking about Brentford:-
"This club is perfect for me," Rösler says. "It's how football started in England, back to the roots...... when we play good football and get good results, we will fill the stadium and it can be intimidating in here."
"........Rösler does, though, have plans for Brentford. Under Benham (Brentford's chairman) the impetus is towards establishing the club's academy, a vision of grooming young talent by which Rösler is greatly enthused. Already Jake Reeves, an 18-year-old midfielder, has impressed in the first team in an injury crisis. "We have two or three very good talents in our development squad and for the whole club it's great if we can make that link with the first team.
"You have to go step by step. You need a good foundation. This is a big chance for me and I want to make it count. I'm on this road and I want to see how far it can go."
Given what's been reported in the media re this new direction the club want to take Rosler's views are possibly music to Peter Coates' ears. Plus of course there's the fact he's German and as we all know, Germans are pretty good at most things football-wise.
I'm not putting Rosler forward as my preferred candidate before anyone starts shouting the odds. It's probably more a case of illustrating the fact that there are managers out there that would buy in to Peter Coates' vision for the club.
If it is Uwe Rosler who gets the job then remember you heard it first from me. If he doesn't get it then obviously I was talking complete and utter bollocks.
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Post by jbstokie on May 26, 2013 23:21:59 GMT
I'd take him.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 23:29:54 GMT
Just been looking at the board and reading the various poster's views of the candidates names being banded about. None of the names mentioned set my pulse racing. On other threads I've made my almost violent dislike of Gob-Shite Hughes perfectly clear. The likes of Martinez, Di Matteo, O'Neill leave me decidedly underwhelmed. I've a feeling that the powers that be have done their homework and have a preferred candidate in mind but are playing their cards close to their chest. They are probably quite happy with all this speculation as it distracts people's attention whilst the PC/JC etc. get on with getting their man. I started to think of other candidates who haven't been mentioned but would fit the bill of a young,vibrant manager who would buy into this new direction and emphasis on youth. The name I came up with is Uwe Rosler. I did a bit of research and the bit that's interesting is a couple of quotes from an interview he did with the Guardian talking about Brentford:- "This club is perfect for me," Rösler says. "It's how football started in England, back to the roots...... when we play good football and get good results, we will fill the stadium and it can be intimidating in here." "........Rösler does, though, have plans for Brentford. Under Benham (Brentford's chairman) the impetus is towards establishing the club's academy, a vision of grooming young talent by which Rösler is greatly enthused. Already Jake Reeves, an 18-year-old midfielder, has impressed in the first team in an injury crisis. "We have two or three very good talents in our development squad and for the whole club it's great if we can make that link with the first team. "You have to go step by step. You need a good foundation. This is a big chance for me and I want to make it count. I'm on this road and I want to see how far it can go." Given what's been reported in the media re this new direction the club want to take Rosler's views are possibly music to Peter Coates' ears. Plus of course there's the fact he's German and as we all know, Germans are pretty good at most things football-wise. I'm not putting Rosler forward as my preferred candidate before anyone starts shouting the odds. It's probably more a case of illustrating the fact that there are managers out there that would buy in to Peter Coates' vision for the club. If it is Uwe Rosler who gets the job then remember you heard it first from me. If he doesn't get it then obviously I was talking complete and utter bollocks. I can think of another 10 managers who are very similar in ethical approach and experience and who I wouldn't consider for interview.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on May 27, 2013 0:11:13 GMT
It won't be Uwe... Even as a fellow German.
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Post by mailman44 on May 27, 2013 0:49:59 GMT
Feeling better about my cheeky tenner on Steve Davis.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 27, 2013 7:01:52 GMT
Very commited and knows English football too! Wouldn't mind him coming here either!
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Post by Pugsley on May 27, 2013 8:07:20 GMT
I mentioned Rosler 4 weeks ago.
There are plenty of good managers out there, the club just have to try and pick the right one to take them in the direction they want to go. How hard can it be?!?!?!?!?!?
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Post by pulismaskreplica on May 27, 2013 9:08:42 GMT
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is another that puts emphasis on youth and development and he used to live in Bramhall - not too far away from Stoke. He would be looking to manage in the Premier surely and if the Phil Neville things are true - who knows??
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Post by mungothemule on May 27, 2013 9:33:33 GMT
I like Rosler. Had an interview with Keys & Gray on Talksport a while back. Very impressive sounding bloke. Done a good job with Brentford.
I would much rather him or Poyet than someone like hughes/MON
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on May 27, 2013 18:29:42 GMT
Also Rosler kicks water bottles all over the place and shouts his head off for 90 minutes, so there'd be some continuity.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 27, 2013 18:53:09 GMT
Rosler, Poyet and Zola.
I quite like Rosler and Zola but can't help thinking it's kind of ironic that they've all failed to ultimately deliver the goods at lower levels but many are still keen on them to take the reins here.
I was happy enough to see the back of Pulis but I wonder should we be so keen to gamble on unknown quantities whose main attraction appears to be their foreign passports.
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Post by robwahlmann on May 27, 2013 19:09:20 GMT
Ole Gunnar Solskjaer is another that puts emphasis on youth and development and he used to live in Bramhall - not too far away from Stoke. He would be looking to manage in the Premier surely and if the Phil Neville things are true - who knows?? I would be very sceptical if we appointed Solskjær now. I think he can become a good manager in the future. Despite winning the Norwegian league with Molde the two last seasons he has had a disasterous start to this one. I would like to see him cope with the hard times too before I would say he is ready for the Premiership. I must also say that Molde struggled a lot the season before Solskjær took over the reigns there, but for the last eight games Uwe Røssler came in and had a very impressive last eight games of the season (I don't think Molde lost any of those 8). I think Molde wanted Røssler to stay, but him and his wife had already set their eyes on moving back to England.
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on May 27, 2013 19:28:46 GMT
Rosler, Poyet and Zola. I quite like Rosler and Zola but can't help thinking it's kind of ironic that they've all failed to ultimately deliver the goods at lower levels but many are still keen on them to take the reins here. I was happy enough to see the back of Pulis but I wonder should we be so keen to gamble on unknown quantities whose main attraction appears to be their foreign passports. You're correct in what you say that they failed. However in Rosler's defence the margin of failure was wafer-thin, a missed penalty in the dying seconds of the game v Donny. But for that they would have gone up and unfortunately for them they then went on to to lose in the play-off final. I would have thought that trying get the Brentford player's heads back up after the Donny disaster must have been one hell of motivational task. As I've said in the original post I'm not putting forward a case for Rosler per se, just discussing the fact that there are candidates out there who possibly fit the bill but are off the radar at the moment as far as the media are concerned.
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Post by foxysgloves on May 27, 2013 19:31:07 GMT
Rosler, Poyet and Zola. I quite like Rosler and Zola but can't help thinking it's kind of ironic that they've all failed to ultimately deliver the goods at lower levels but many are still keen on them to take the reins here. I was happy enough to see the back of Pulis but I wonder should we be so keen to gamble on unknown quantities whose main attraction appears to be their foreign passports. You're correct in what you say that they failed. However in Rosler's defence the margin of failure was wafer-thin, a missed penalty in the dying seconds of the game v Donny. But for that they would have gone up and unfortunately for them they then went on to to lose in the play-off final. I would have thought that trying get the Brentford player's heads back up after the Donny disaster must have been one hell of motivational task. As I've said in the original post I'm not putting forward a case for Rosler per se, just discussing the fact that there are candidates out there who possibly fit the bill but are off the radar at the moment as far as the media are concerned. I agree with all that. And I do like the look of Rosler. I'd take him before Poytwat any day of the week.
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on May 27, 2013 20:13:43 GMT
I was surprised that Rosler's name has rarely cropped up. I think he would have been amongst the favourites had it not been for Brentford ballsing up that penalty which stopped them getting automatic promotion, German as well flavour of the month. Better bet than most others that have been mentioned so far,
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Post by Kewstokie on May 28, 2013 7:29:20 GMT
Many Brentford fans would be happy to drive Rosler to the Brit. He divides the fans in a snap shot of us over the past couple of seasons. Maybe I just work with the RHW's but :
From the same mould as TP away, ultra cautious cost them their promotion chance over the season, failed to take max points against relegated sides away whereas their rivals did, the result at Crewe 3 days after their Wembley appearance was the exception where they went for it or risked slipping out of the top 6.
At home sets up cautious until events cause them to change (and did so in the play off final). Best attacking option is Donaldson ex Crewe, an out and out striker who is played on the right wing until the game has to be chased when he is switched to the middle and the lump it up order comes. Forrester is their talisman on the left - but is usually substituted to make way for grafters. Coaching staff seen as yes men.
Plus side - gives a good interview, works on a budget, dresses well, plays the loan market well, but helped out there as he has a number of London clubs to pick from (we aren't in that level of loanee any more) needs Championship level football experience before the big step up and has this season to get them up or the suits go back to Moss bros.
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on May 28, 2013 7:36:30 GMT
Many Brentford fans would be happy to drive Rosler to the Brit. He divides the fans in a snap shot of us over the past couple of seasons. Maybe I just work with the RHW's but : From the same mould as TP away, ultra cautious cost them their promotion chance over the season, failed to take max points against relegated sides away whereas their rivals did, the result at Crewe 3 days after their Wembley appearance was the exception where they went for it or risked slipping out of the top 6. At home sets up cautious until events cause them to change (and did so in the play off final). Best attacking option is Donaldson ex Crewe, an out and out striker who is played on the right wing until the game has to be chased when he is switched to the middle and the lump it up order comes. Forrester is their talisman on the left - but is usually substituted to make way for grafters. Coaching staff seen as yes men. Plus side - gives a good interview, works on a budget, dresses well, plays the loan market well, but helped out there as he has a number of London clubs to pick from (we aren't in that level of loanee any more) needs Championship level football experience before the big step up and has this season to get them up or the suits go back to Moss bros. Just after TP left I got a message from a Brentford supporting mate saying 'Don't you bastards dare nick Rosler off us!' So he's not universally unpopular. I've actually sat quite close to him and seen his suit. It was pretty impressive, especially the lack of stains under the armpits when he started kicking stuff
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 7:49:15 GMT
Seems to have a lot of potential and might well go far but I'd like to know on what planet failing to get a team out of League One qualifies you for a Premier League job.
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Post by The Stubborn Optimist on May 28, 2013 9:05:41 GMT
Seems to have a lot of potential and might well go far but I'd like to know on what planet failing to get a team out of League One qualifies you for a Premier League job. Probably the same planet where a candidate boasting the worst start to a season in Premier League history, having spent a shed load of money, coupled with 2 walk-outs and 2 sackings from his last four jobs is in pole position to get the Stoke job, allegedly.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2013 9:24:33 GMT
Seems to have a lot of potential and might well go far but I'd like to know on what planet failing to get a team out of League One qualifies you for a Premier League job. Probably the same planet where a candidate boasting the worst start to a season in Premier League history, having spent a shed load of money, coupled with 2 walk-outs and 2 sackings from his last four jobs is in pole position to get the Stoke job, allegedly. But he has a good record overall in English football and Rosler's career in England is in its infancy.
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