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Post by Olgrligm on May 26, 2013 14:02:52 GMT
I join all Stoke supporters in praying that Everton appoint a di Matteo/Martinez/O'Neil triumvirate.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 26, 2013 14:04:09 GMT
I join all Stoke supporters in praying that Everton appoint a di Matteo/Martinez/O'Neil triumvirate. Who do you actually want then? Look on the new managers poll and you will see most Stoke fans on here want Martinez.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2013 14:05:28 GMT
oddsMartinez is really firming up in the Everton market.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 26, 2013 14:06:35 GMT
oddsMartinez is really firming up in the Everton market. Judging from the MON odds I don't think the bookies have a clue what is going on.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2013 14:08:15 GMT
oddsMartinez is really firming up in the Everton market. Judging from the MON odds I don't think the bookies have a clue what is going on. Yeah - it's a bit of fun though Although there's no fun in watching MON's odds fall like that unless you're a masochist!
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Post by geoff321 on May 26, 2013 14:09:51 GMT
Let Everton make the mistake with Martinez. This guy lost almost one game in every two with Wigan and had a win rate of 28.9%.
He's a nice person and is good with the press, but people are buying into image rather than substance.
The bottom line is he is unproven in the Premier League, worse than that he's taken a side down.
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Post by pippin44 on May 26, 2013 14:11:18 GMT
The bookies know nothing because they are dealing with two clubs who keep things private. How many different managers have been favourite for stoke up to now. MON,MH,RB...Did RDM get favouritism??
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Post by sportsman on May 26, 2013 14:11:51 GMT
I know nothing about bookies or betting. Never betted in my life.
What I have learned from all this though is bookies really haven't got a clue.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 26, 2013 14:11:57 GMT
Judging from the MON odds I don't think the bookies have a clue what is going on. Yeah - it's a bit of fun though! Although there's no fun in watching MON's odds fall like that unless you're a masochist! You should have seen this board at 3am last night. It was awful. O'neill's odds were being slashed by the minute (4/6) at one stage. Thankfully it looks like it was all a heap of shit.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 26, 2013 14:13:24 GMT
I join all Stoke supporters in praying that Everton appoint a di Matteo/Martinez/O'Neil triumvirate. Who do you actually want then? Look on the new managers poll and you will see most Stoke fans on here want Martinez. That was mostly tongur in cheek (I'd be very happy if they did gobble up those three though!) but I thought some balance was very much needed in this thread. I'd take Hughes on the proviso that he acts as he did at Blackburn, not Fulham where he turned into a Wengerlite pansy. He easily has the best track record of the main contenders and I think would probably have us playing in a way that would suit everyone. A little less cautious, not a fan of tedious halfway line ball but less direct than we're used to and he understands the importance of hard but fair honest football, or at least he did before he got infected by London club disease. I'm really, really hoping that the board surprise us with a mysteriously well qualified manager with an exceptional track record that we've never heard of, though.
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Post by discokaraoke on May 26, 2013 14:18:54 GMT
Let Everton make the mistake with Martinez. This guy lost almost one game in every two with Wigan and had a win rate of 28.9%. He's a nice person and is good with the press, but people are buying into image rather than substance. The bottom line is he is unproven in the Premier League, worse than that he's taken a side down. Personally, i think he worked miracles at Wigan considering the budget he's had in the last 4 seasons. I doubt very much Pulis would have kept us up in 1 season let alone 4 on the same. Martinez all the way for me.
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Post by RichardTMP on May 26, 2013 14:25:54 GMT
Martinez would be a brilliant choice for us, imo. We have the solid defence, and we have players that are capable of passing the ball around, so with a good assistant to Martinez we could see some exciting football as well as a good finish to next season. If he can attract some of his good attacking players then that would be a bonus. Kone for Crouch Beausejour for Etherington Mcarthur for Whitehead Figueroa for cover And exploit the foreign market.
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Post by pippin44 on May 26, 2013 14:32:09 GMT
In an interview with the Sunday People, Kenwright is quoted as saying that he is "not too far away" from an appointment. He said: "I have got people in mind. A lot of those mentioned are not too far away. Everton have got a type, it's a very hard working industrial football club."
Everton have got a type??? Interesting.. Maybe an Everton type can only be guaranteed by an existing everton coach... Interesting.
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Post by jeycov on May 26, 2013 14:36:15 GMT
In an interview with the Sunday People, Kenwright is quoted as saying that he is "not too far away" from an appointment. He said: "I have got people in mind. A lot of those mentioned are not too far away. Everton have got a type, it's a very hard working industrial football club." Everton have got a type??? Interesting.. Maybe an Everton type can only be guaranteed by an existing everton coach... Interesting. Phil Neville involved in some capacity, is now a distinct possibility imo
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 14:38:27 GMT
In an interview with the Sunday People, Kenwright is quoted as saying that he is "not too far away" from an appointment. He said: "I have got people in mind. A lot of those mentioned are not too far away. Everton have got a type, it's a very hard working industrial football club." Everton have got a type??? Interesting.. Maybe an Everton type can only be guaranteed by an existing everton coach... Interesting. If Everton are 'aaarrddd working" we know someone who could fit that description
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on May 26, 2013 14:54:44 GMT
In an interview with the Sunday People, Kenwright is quoted as saying that he is "not too far away" from an appointment. He said: "I have got people in mind. A lot of those mentioned are not too far away. Everton have got a type, it's a very hard working industrial football club." Everton have got a type??? Interesting.. Maybe an Everton type can only be guaranteed by an existing everton coach... Interesting. This surely rules out Martinez for Everton.
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Post by Sammz on May 26, 2013 15:14:57 GMT
A Martinez / Bould combo? Hadn't considered it before but wouldn't immediately be apposed to this option..
ps. Hughes Out!!
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Post by cmc89 on May 26, 2013 15:29:30 GMT
I know nothing about bookies or betting. Never betted in my life. What I have learned from all this though is bookies really haven't got a clue. Bookies don't claim to know who the next manager will be. Their odds just shorten or lengthen with the amount of money being put around by punters. They will all be laying their bets with each other at different odds to guarantee a profit no matter who comes in.
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Post by stokeoptimist on May 26, 2013 15:32:01 GMT
A Martinez / Bould combo? Hadn't considered it before but wouldn't immediately be apposed to this option.. ps. Hughes Out!! Martinez likes to work on his own isn't that why he turned down Liverpool? and why would Bouldy leave Arsenal No2 to be No2 at Stoke doesn't make sense.
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Post by nott1 on May 26, 2013 15:36:02 GMT
Or THEIR new man?
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Post by The battheader chronicles on May 26, 2013 15:38:29 GMT
My 1st choice think he could do really well with a bit of money and solidity at thge back
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Post by Sammz on May 26, 2013 15:39:44 GMT
A Martinez / Bould combo? Hadn't considered it before but wouldn't immediately be apposed to this option.. ps. Hughes Out!! Martinez likes to work on his own isn't that why he turned down Liverpool? and why would Bouldy leave Arsenal No2 to be No2 at Stoke doesn't make sense. Because he'd be coming home & working under one of the world's most experienced managers...... and because he thinks Wenger is a twat ;-) Obviously I don't actually expect this to happen. It's just a fanciful idea far removed from reality... sadly.
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Post by Sammz on May 26, 2013 15:45:23 GMT
Martinez likes to work on his own isn't that why he turned down Liverpool? and why would Bouldy leave Arsenal No2 to be No2 at Stoke doesn't make sense. Because he'd be coming home & working under one of the world's most experienced managers...... and because he thinks Wenger is a twat ;-) Obviously I don't actually expect this to happen. It's just a fanciful idea far removed from reality... sadly. Sorry got my threads crossed. Thought it was my Jupp Haynckes post..I don't think Martinez is one of the world's most experienced managers! :-)
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Post by stokiejoe on May 26, 2013 15:49:36 GMT
I know nothing about bookies or betting. Never betted in my life. What I have learned from all this though is bookies really haven't got a clue. Bookies don't claim to know who the next manager will be. Their odds just shorten or lengthen with the amount of money being put around by punters. They will all be laying their bets with each other at different odds to guarantee a profit no matter who comes in. Spot on bookies "balance" the books mathematically so they can't lose, punters get too emotionally involved. Even if the favourite wins they profit, an outsider makes most money for them. There is a mathematical method of checking the odds of all the entrants and if the book is unbalanced betting on every one. Only works with all entrants known so no use for us.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 15:50:11 GMT
Not convinced RM would be the man for it. his win rate is only 25% and i know people will say he had no cash but if it is him great lets back him or whoever else it is. Never know PC may pull off a coup and all be happy If its PC's choice it'll be MON or similar type
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Post by pippin44 on May 26, 2013 15:51:54 GMT
This quite clearly will not be PC'S choice. He has no or little say in things any more.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on May 26, 2013 15:57:58 GMT
This quite clearly will not be PC'S choice. He has no or little say in things any more.[/quote HE OWNS THE CLUB. Of course he has a say and I'd imagine he'd have the final say
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Post by pippin44 on May 26, 2013 16:02:33 GMT
Then you have a fantasy imagination. Coates senior does not own the club. His children are majority shareholders. If he really got the final say, tony pulis would still be manager. The only reason he has not stood down officially is that if the next manager choice goes tits up, the supporters could not just blame the Children. He will probably stand down after the new man is employed or the start of the season...Just my opinion.
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Post by pippin44 on May 26, 2013 16:13:58 GMT
Another thing worth mentioning is that if he stays at Wigan, he will be in the championship for a minimum of 2 seasons...minimum!! Why?? Wigan are in the Europa next season and there is no way you can get a team to win the chapionship and take part in european football...and english competitions...Unless you have a massive budget. He will leave wigan if he has any ambition and a reality check. Everton will keep it in house as they want a certain type and Martinez will come to stoke....simples!!
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Post by The battheader chronicles on May 26, 2013 16:35:54 GMT
Then you have a fantasy imagination. Coates senior does not own the club. His children are majority shareholders. If he really got the final say, tony pulis would still be manager. The only reason he has not stood down officially is that if the next manager choice goes tits up, the supporters could not just blame the Children. He will probably stand down after the new man is employed or the start of the season...Just my opinion. I said he had the final say, that doest mean he wont listen to people, he may have felt pulis should have stayed but then took advice and then decided that parting with pulis was the best thing
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