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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 8:45:04 GMT
First Mark Hughes, now Its Martin O'Neil - (good god - talk about 'running out of steam' at Sunderland !!!)
Is this deliberately designed to drive to rabid despair any Stoke supporter with half a brain ?
(I am crediting myself with that much )
I thought we were supposed to stepping UP from Tony Pulis ?
I would not give these two clowns a pub team myself
The short list being trotted out by the media is frightening the hell out of me in truth
And to say upon appointing either of these is - ' to go in a different direction' is laughable
unless you mean = DOWN !
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on May 26, 2013 8:47:40 GMT
First Mark Hughes, now Its Martin O'Neil - (good god - talk about 'running out of steam' at Sunderland !!!) Is this deliberately designed to drive to rabid despair any Stoke supporter with half a brain ? (I am crediting myself with that much ) I thought we were supposed to stepping UP from Tony Pulis ? I would not give these two clowns a pub team myself The short list being trotted out by the media is frightening the hell out of me in truth And to say upon appointing either of these is - ' to go in a different direction' is laughable unless you mean = DOWN ! Spot on. I just hope to fuck the club are laughing their bollox off at this speculation and pull a good un out of the bag. If not we will be the laughing stock of football.
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Post by stayingupfor GermanStokie on May 26, 2013 8:49:58 GMT
I don't think it's either tbh... Something isn't quite right at the moment as in a case of 2+2 may equal something....
The board want a totally new direction, which include a "new" manager?? O'Neil has too much baggage and is Hughes too close to TP in a generational thought process??
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Post by knightonstokie on May 26, 2013 8:55:53 GMT
It's all speculation at the moment, lets hope the real short list of candidates is a closely guarded secret that the media have not got info on
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Post by slicko on May 26, 2013 8:56:57 GMT
Yesterday's Meulensteen suggestion would be bang on for me. Style of football, experience with top players, association with top club
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Post by roylandstoke on May 26, 2013 8:58:17 GMT
I've heard its going to be Neil Warnock.
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Post by huuuuuth on May 26, 2013 9:00:08 GMT
Think about it for fucks sake. There is absolutely NO FUCKING WAY we would sack TP for martin o fucking Neil. Never happen
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 9:07:18 GMT
For fucks sake calm down and wait and see who gets the job before overreacting about everyone that gets linked with it!
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Post by sportsman on May 26, 2013 9:19:11 GMT
God some people believe anything. Stokes PR put out all over the local press young and vibrant manager, then people fall for this.
Clayton woods was swarming with rumours of Neville and scholes two weeks ago, even coming from the head groundsman down there. This was before Tone left.
Then rumours still of Neville going around now. I think we can expect some kind of manager / coaching staff of the likes of Neville, scholes, bould or some kind of fresh, keen to succeed, back room staff.
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Post by roylandstoke on May 26, 2013 9:40:49 GMT
Young and vibrant.
Steve Kean anyone?
What about Aidy Boothroyd?
I actually think Boothroyd might do a decent job.
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Post by swampySCFC on May 26, 2013 9:43:55 GMT
Maybe we are getting knock backs and the short list is turning in to a long list
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Post by jeycov on May 26, 2013 9:53:18 GMT
Yesterday's Meulensteen suggestion would be bang on for me. Style of football, experience with top players, association with top club I agree - he had a brief mention on the Sunday Supplement programme earlier this morning, with the journalists being somewhat surprised that he has decided to move on (He wasn't one of the back room staff to be sacked!) With so much other football in the news, Champions League Final, Target signings for David Moyes, Play off final, Gareth Bale on the move ...... - unsurprisingly we got a very brief mention (Suggesting that Stoke, rather than Everton may be a better project for Martinez). The frenzy seems to be here on the Oatcake and is providing some very interesting and amusing comments. It would be better to wait and get a good match for the club, rather than rush into a poor decision. At the moment, although an untried manager, Meulensteen, plus an excellent supporting team, sound a very attractive deal - maybe too much of a risk for SCFC at this moment in time.
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Post by trigger on May 26, 2013 9:53:37 GMT
Common sense suggests than the interviews were carried out whilst TP was still our manager in order to minimise on the appointment.
How can we continue to make gigantic cock ups in everything we do, I really fear the forthcoming season at this rate, a case of to many chiefs and not enough indians pretty much sums it up well.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on May 26, 2013 9:59:57 GMT
What's wrong with Hughes/oneill & Neville as assistant. I haven't a problem with it at all. Anyone's better than tony pulis's style of football
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Post by trigger on May 26, 2013 10:09:41 GMT
Problem is JSU that no one wants them anywhere near our club.
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Post by slicko on May 26, 2013 10:16:21 GMT
Yesterday's Meulensteen suggestion would be bang on for me. Style of football, experience with top players, association with top club I agree - he had a brief mention on the Sunday Supplement programme earlier this morning, with the journalists being somewhat surprised that he has decided to move on (He wasn't one of the back room staff to be sacked!) With so much other football in the news, Champions League Final, Target signings for David Moyes, Play off final, Gareth Bale on the move ...... - unsurprisingly we got a very brief mention (Suggesting that Stoke, rather than Everton may be a better project for Martinez). The frenzy seems to be here on the Oatcake and is providing some very interesting and amusing comments. It would be better to wait and get a good match for the club, rather than rush into a poor decision. At the moment, although an untried manager, Meulensteen, plus an excellent supporting team, sound a very attractive deal - maybe too much of a risk for SCFC at this moment in time. Yes I agree. Pity but risk is not a Coatsey trait
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Post by Squeekster on May 26, 2013 10:16:48 GMT
The problem is we've got rid of a manager and all the managers that are supposed to be on the top of our list are all of the same ilk as the one we've just sacked when we have said we want a totally different direction.
I really hope no news is good news as this silence from the club is deafening.
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Post by thisfootballclub on May 26, 2013 10:36:51 GMT
The list of suitable managers that are currently free agents is quite small, maybe we need to start having a look at managers who are still under contract and be willing to buy out a contract for the right man?
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on May 26, 2013 10:39:25 GMT
What I don't get is how do these managers still get Premiership jobs? Surely top flight clubs demand better than their brand of football?
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Post by chinesedave on May 26, 2013 11:13:08 GMT
Howard Wilkinson I heard.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 11:27:35 GMT
Here you go boys n girls let the 'wankstaining I want TP gone' fun begin. Don't say you weren't warned about the old saying 'be careful what you wish for'. Arguably the best manager Stoke hae ever had and they as good as fire him. WTF have we become?.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 11:32:27 GMT
Here you go boys n girls let the 'wankstaining I want TP gone' fun begin. Don't say you weren't warned about the old saying 'be careful what you wish for'. Arguably the best manager Stoke hae ever had and they as good as fire him. WTF have we become?. Get a fucking grip and wait and see who we appoint!
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 11:35:00 GMT
First Mark Hughes, now Its Martin O'Neil - (good god - talk about 'running out of steam' at Sunderland !!!) Is this deliberately designed to drive to rabid despair any Stoke supporter with half a brain ? (I am crediting myself with that much ) I thought we were supposed to stepping UP from Tony Pulis ? I would not give these two clowns a pub team myself The short list being trotted out by the media is frightening the hell out of me in truth And to say upon appointing either of these is - ' to go in a different direction' is laughable unless you mean = DOWN ! Spot on. I just hope to fuck Tony Pulis doesn't end up laughing his bollocks off at this speculation and Stoke pull a good un out of the bag. If not then the wankstains will be the laughing stock of both the rimming oatcake and footballing club. There you go, spit it out man.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 11:40:41 GMT
Here you go boys n girls let the 'wankstaining I want TP gone' fun begin. Don't say you weren't warned about the old saying 'be careful what you wish for'. Arguably the best manager Stoke hae ever had and they as good as fire him. WTF have we become?. Get a fucking grip and wait and see who we appoint! Don't you think we'd have done out homework done by having a man lined up before firing one of our most successful managers ever?. Unless of course we had done and its gone tits up......Oh the irony in telling me to get a fucking grip.
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2013 11:43:55 GMT
Get a fucking grip and wait and see who we appoint! Don't you think we'd have done out homework done by having a man lined up before firing one of our most successful managers ever?. Unless of course we had done and its gone tits up......Oh the irony in telling me to get a fucking grip. yes tp did a great job but it was obvious he had taken us as far as he could and a change was needed, like I said let's wait and see who we appoint before all the hysterics
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Post by geoff321 on May 26, 2013 11:47:40 GMT
The creation of the Academy and developing young players is a good policy. Posters on here though seem to think it will transform Stoke and push them to the so called next level. In reality developing and finding young players can take many years, with no guarantee of success.
One of the best clubs at blooding young players has been Man. United, especially in the nineties. Recently though they have not produced many new young players of real class.
The United side that has just won another title had the following players in it:
Evra 32 Ferdinand 35 Vedic 31 Carrick 31 Giggs 39 Scholes 38 van Persie 29 Rooney 28 Valencia 28
Out of the above players only two were with United as youngsters. The manager was 73.
Experience in managers and players is often the most important factor in ensuring success, we shouldn't let an obsession with youth and inexperience lead us down the wrong path.
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 26, 2013 12:30:38 GMT
First Mark Hughes, now Its Martin O'Neil - (good god - talk about 'running out of steam' at Sunderland !!!) Is this deliberately designed to drive to rabid despair any Stoke supporter with half a brain ? (I am crediting myself with that much ) I thought we were supposed to stepping UP from Tony Pulis ? I would not give these two clowns a pub team myself The short list being trotted out by the media is frightening the hell out of me in truth And to say upon appointing either of these is - ' to go in a different direction' is laughable unless you mean = DOWN ! Well please be aware of the "I told you to be careful what you wished for" posts. Gouranga.
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Post by Davef on May 26, 2013 12:38:37 GMT
First Mark Hughes, now Its Martin O'Neil - (good god - talk about 'running out of steam' at Sunderland !!!) Is this deliberately designed to drive to rabid despair any Stoke supporter with half a brain ? (I am crediting myself with that much ) I thought we were supposed to stepping UP from Tony Pulis ? I would not give these two clowns a pub team myself The short list being trotted out by the media is frightening the hell out of me in truth And to say upon appointing either of these is - ' to go in a different direction' is laughable unless you mean = DOWN ! Well please be aware of the "I told you to be careful what you wished for" posts. Gouranga. Well if you're one of those who're thinking of starting them, we're going to have some real fun.
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Post by FullerMagic on May 26, 2013 12:42:52 GMT
If the O'Neill speculation is a ploy to get everyone fully behind Hughes, it's worked with me.
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Post by itsmorethanagame on May 26, 2013 12:53:43 GMT
If the O'Neill speculation is a ploy to get everyone fully behind Hughes, it's worked with me. I couldn't separate them. They are neck and neck at the bottom of my list. I don't think it's going to be either of them providing our main targets don't all turn us down. Hughes and o'neil are both out of work which is why their names are out there but I reckon our first choice/s are still tied to other clubs which makes it a bit trickier.
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