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Post by numpty40 on May 19, 2013 19:32:33 GMT
A bit of a disappointing end to a distinguished career of one of the country's finest natural goalscorer. Substitute for one of the worst scoring teams in the entire league in a meaningless fixture.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 19:33:50 GMT
He should have retired 3 years ago.
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Post by redwhite on May 19, 2013 19:48:02 GMT
I think it was quite a nice send off. Fantastic effort from all the travelling supporters and indeed the Southampton fans.
I like the bloke a lot. Seems like an honest pro and he's worked to try and get more game time for us. He even praised the fans for giving him support despite the fact that he hadn't been able to give much back. Great guy and once a fantastic player.
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Post by pickins on May 19, 2013 19:50:19 GMT
Nearly nicked one last goal with his first touch too. This has annoyed me more than anything else this season. Wish we could have seen more of him.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2013 19:54:01 GMT
We have goal scoring issues.....the solution is leave one of the greatest strikers in England rotting on the bench. Quite ridiculous.
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Post by sportsman on May 19, 2013 19:57:24 GMT
We haven't seen him much but when we have he's come on and scored or nearly scored. I was a big backer of Tone, but not playing owen more, no wingers and no full backs again have tipped it for me. Three schoolboy errors
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 20:00:46 GMT
We haven't seen him much but when we have he's come on and scored or nearly scored. I was a big backer of Tone, but not playing owen more, no wingers and no full backs again have tipped it for me. Three schoolboy errors His biggest error was signing him. Stevie Wonder could see what was going to happen and it did. A pointless signing from the outset.
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Post by redwhite on May 19, 2013 20:04:52 GMT
We haven't seen him much but when we have he's come on and scored or nearly scored. I was a big backer of Tone, but not playing owen more, no wingers and no full backs again have tipped it for me. Three schoolboy errors His biggest error was signing him. Stevie Wonder could see what was going to happen and it did. A pointless signing from the outset. It's always a pointless signing if you're not going to play him. We don't know how good Owen could've been if we had played him, but not giving him the chance is definitely pointless.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 20:06:08 GMT
His biggest error was signing him. Stevie Wonder could see what was going to happen and it did. A pointless signing from the outset. It's always a pointless signing if you're not going to play him. We don't know how good Owen could've been if we had played him, but not giving him the chance is definitely pointless. Which he never was. He's not a Pulis player, it was bloody obvious he'd barely play.
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Post by sportsman on May 19, 2013 20:08:07 GMT
Only pointless because we didnt play him. I don't care what anyone says he wasn't a Tone signing. This may be one reason he might leave for. Shocking management to keep putting a goalscorer like that on the bench and not bring him on when we needed a goal lately.
Especially like I said that whenever he's come on he's looked like scoring
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2013 20:12:44 GMT
He was just another 'name' Tone couldn't resist IMO. Had no idea what to do with him once he was here. As Bayern said, he was never going to feature even if fit because he's too small to play up front in a Tony Pulis team.
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Post by sportsman on May 19, 2013 20:16:28 GMT
So therefor he wasn't a Tone signing. He was 'advised' to sign him
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 20:17:30 GMT
So therefor he wasn't a Tone signing. He was 'advised' to sign him Or he's just another shiny ex England international/big name TP has signed and hasn't had the foggiest what to do with!
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Post by stokie25 on May 19, 2013 20:21:32 GMT
So therefor he wasn't a Tone signing. He was 'advised' to sign him Or he's just another shiny ex England international/big name TP has signed and hasn't had the foggiest what to do with! So it's hardly Owen's fault that the dinosaur manager couldn't manage an England international? You might not rate him Bayern, but he was better than most we had that pulis signed.....he deserved a decent send off today and he didn't really get it.....did he?
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 20:23:05 GMT
Or he's just another shiny ex England international/big name TP has signed and hasn't had the foggiest what to do with! So it's hardly Owen's fault that the dinosaur manager couldn't manage an England international? You might not rate him Bayern, but he was better than most we had that pulis signed.....he deserved a decent send off today and he didn't really get it.....did he? It's not his fault but I have no sympathy for him whatsoever. I don't think he deserved fuck all, I wouldn't have taken him today, he's an irrelevance to Stoke City. Harsh but he is. I wish him good luck but what a fuck up.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2013 20:23:40 GMT
So therefor he wasn't a Tone signing. He was 'advised' to sign him He's not the first such player we've signed and promptly lost interest in though is he? Are we saying all of the other failed 'names' were someone else's signing too?
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Post by stockportstokie on May 19, 2013 20:24:57 GMT
An absolute class interview from him after the game. He really shouldn't have signed for us, sad end to a great career.
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Post by stokie25 on May 19, 2013 20:28:37 GMT
I imagine Owen is far more gutted his career ended at SCFC then SCFC are gutted to have Owen end his career here....Pulis has fucked up many players careers, why should Owen's be any different? (wave)
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 19, 2013 20:31:32 GMT
I imagine Owen is far more gutted his career ended at SCFC then SCFC are gutted to have Owen end his career here....Pulis has fucked up may players careers, why should Owen's be any different? (wave) As much as I dislike Pulis it's plain daft to say Pulis ruined his career! His career was already virtually over three years ago. Injuries ruined his career and stopped a good player from being a truly world class one. It's a massive shame for him and England but it was it is. Pulis is an irrelevance to Michael Owen's career.
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Post by harrysburrow on May 19, 2013 20:34:54 GMT
Whichever scenario, he had to be worth more than 124 minutes in a season? Utterly shit management. The same with Pennant. Even if he's behaved like an utter knob, (or on some bonus for games played) get him in the shop window last few games of the season. He would have played his arse off to get another decent move? Jones? Get's some confidence back, starts looking the part again around Christmas and is dropped like a sack of shit? Edu, Ness and Shea? Farce. Walters and Jerome. Ideal for proper rotation, but flogs one to death and under uses the other? Charlie Adam????
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Post by stokies on May 19, 2013 20:37:48 GMT
Liked his interview on RS, and he could have torn strips out of Tone to be honest.
Scored a great goal for us, almost nicked one today.
Good luck in his retirement.
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Post by wokinghampotter on May 19, 2013 21:19:08 GMT
I think it was a fitting send off to a player who has done a lot for his country. By both the away support and the Southampton following.
It was not his fault he di was not played. It was not his fault Tony Pulis did not know how to use him.
He could have condemned the management of SCFC but did not. All credit to him and I wish him success for the future!
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Post by Stoke70 on May 19, 2013 21:22:27 GMT
Great career, ridiculous end due to clueless manager.
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Post by stokiepo on May 19, 2013 22:23:42 GMT
We could have had Van Persie up front this season and we'd be not much better. The strikers are not necessarily to blame - they get next to no service.
Owen is a great pro and deserved more time on the pitch, in my opinion. But I doubt he would have scored more goals when Pulis continues to play with only one half fit, blowing hot and cold winger.
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Post by str8outtahampton on May 20, 2013 9:04:11 GMT
The decision to sign Owen and then not play him was perverse and unfathomable - whoever made it. Aside from anything else, he occupied a place in the squad that COULD have been used.
It is impossible to know if Owen would have done more if he'd had more time on the pitch. But the indications are that he would not. First, he relied to a great extent on his electrifying pace (although of course he was an instinctive finisher) and he never recovered that after his first major injury. Second, the fact that he did score a few goals at Man Utd simply tells us that he scored a few goals (and some important ones) at Man Utd - that does not transfer to what he might have done at SCFC. And third, teams were not last Summer queuing up to sign him. I could not believe it when we did.
Sounds like a thoroughly decent, dignified and intelligent bloke, but having watched (for example) the send off Carragher got at Liverpool, yesterday's 15 mins (albeit both sets of fans gave him a standing ovation) must have seemed to him a bit of a damp squib.
Forever defined by the quite sensational goal against Argentina in France 98.
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Post by slother on May 20, 2013 11:34:05 GMT
Quite agree Bayern. All too predictable. Also this:
What a bellend.
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Post by Stokie Mcpot on May 20, 2013 11:38:06 GMT
It's funny. When you consider the ratio of goals to minutes played, he's actually been our best goal scorer. How many minutes has he played all season? Still managed to nip in a nice header, that's more than we can say for SJW and his 100% appearances. Not that I'm picking on old Jon just that he's our top scorer.
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Post by mrred on May 20, 2013 12:28:53 GMT
I imagine Owen is far more gutted his career ended at SCFC then SCFC are gutted to have Owen end his career here....Pulis has fucked up many players careers, why should Owen's be any different? (wave) Christ. Forgetting the fact that no one else was in for him and he ultimately stumped up to come here in September. I'm not a Pulis fan but what an absolute bollocks comment.
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Post by Deleted on May 20, 2013 12:32:45 GMT
According to Tone he's definitely going to play a big part over the second half of the season.
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Post by shiftyfifty on May 20, 2013 12:46:33 GMT
I imagine Owen is far more gutted his career ended at SCFC then SCFC are gutted to have Owen end his career here....Pulis has fucked up many players careers, why should Owen's be any different? (wave) This has to be the most stupid post ever? If we hadn't have signed him in the Summer his career would have been over a year earlier.
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