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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on May 14, 2013 21:19:22 GMT
Pisser he's 24. That just goes to show how good our youth policy is. I always though young meant about 17 -20! Our club is a bit of a joke to be honest!
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Post by CrazyPotter on May 14, 2013 21:19:52 GMT
The kiddie done good.
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Post by stokie25 on May 14, 2013 21:23:04 GMT
Threadbare, eff. Cuvelier will be 45 before he gets a chance at 'front of the house' footy. Our youth policy is meandering along just fine, we have a manager who simply ignores it!
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Post by sheikhmomo on May 14, 2013 21:23:18 GMT
23 at the start of the season so qualifies! There are two older squads than ours in the league - QPR and Fulham.
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on May 14, 2013 21:23:27 GMT
He as, he's one for the future isn't he!
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Post by jonnybravo on May 14, 2013 21:37:27 GMT
Haha that's hilarious but he's young for pulis he doesn't believe in young players does he,just look at Rooney Walcott Ramsey Wilshire butland hart sterling oh hang on a minute
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 14, 2013 21:40:00 GMT
Threadbare, eff. Cuvelier will be 45 before he gets a chance at 'front of the house' footy. Our youth policy is meandering along just fine, we have a manager who simply ignores it! Any of them good enough? |
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Post by spiderpuss on May 14, 2013 21:46:10 GMT
Send him out on loan to get a bit experience, Barnsley will do.
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Post by prem4stoke on May 14, 2013 22:16:17 GMT
Threadbare, eff. Cuvelier will be 45 before he gets a chance at 'front of the house' footy. Our youth policy is meandering along just fine, we have a manager who simply ignores it! Yes our youth teams did so well our U21's finished rock bottom and U18's 3rd from bottom! |
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Post by Kjones9 on May 14, 2013 22:24:38 GMT
Threadbare, eff. Cuvelier will be 45 before he gets a chance at 'front of the house' footy. Our youth policy is meandering along just fine, we have a manager who simply ignores it! Yes our youth teams did so well our U21's finished rock bottom and U18's 3rd from bottom! Yeah because if there was, say, 3 in the team that were good players and the rest were shit, they'd be top of the league wouldn't they?. Jesus hates Christ. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 14, 2013 22:34:12 GMT
Yes our youth teams did so well our U21's finished rock bottom and U18's 3rd from bottom! Yeah because if there was, say, 3 in the team that were good players and the rest were shit, they'd be top of the league wouldn't they?. Jesus hates Christ. Who are these good players that are good enough and have done enough to deserve a chance? |
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Post by prem4stoke on May 14, 2013 22:40:51 GMT
Yes our youth teams did so well our U21's finished rock bottom and U18's 3rd from bottom! Yeah because if there was, say, 3 in the team that were good players and the rest were shit, they'd be top of the league wouldn't they?. Jesus hates Christ. Who are they? I have never ever known of any decent Stoke development not in my lifetime. Hopefully we can get some soon. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on May 14, 2013 22:45:23 GMT
Threadbare, eff. Cuvelier will be 45 before he gets a chance at 'front of the house' footy. Our youth policy is meandering along just fine, we have a manager who simply ignores it! Any of them good enough? Any of them developed to be sufficiently good enough? |
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Post by Gods on May 14, 2013 22:52:06 GMT
Yes our youth teams did so well our U21's finished rock bottom and U18's 3rd from bottom! Yeah because if there was, say, 3 in the team that were good players and the rest were shit, they'd be top of the league wouldn't they?. Jesus hates Christ. The phrase you are groping for is Jesus H. Christ. The 'H' stands for 'Holy'. Jesus Holy Christ. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on May 14, 2013 23:28:39 GMT
Interestingly enough the league position of the youth teams is the decisive factor in Tone releasing players or not despite the advice of coaches who beg him to give some youngsters the opportunity to be developed further.
A absolute fact that I have witnessed directly.
Go and ask Adrian Pennock or Ronnie Sinclaire.
Unbelievable but sadly true.
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Post by prem4stoke on May 14, 2013 23:35:30 GMT
Interestingly enough the league position of the youth teams is the decisive factor in Tone releasing players or not despite the advice of coaches who beg him to give some youngsters the opportunity to be developed further. A absolute fact that I have witnessed directly. Go and ask Adrian Pennock or Ronnie Sinclaire. Unbelievable but sadly true. So where are these talented stars now? |
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Post by jbstokie on May 14, 2013 23:37:27 GMT
Interestingly enough the league position of the youth teams is the decisive factor in Tone releasing players or not despite the advice of coaches who beg him to give some youngsters the opportunity to be developed further. A absolute fact that I have witnessed directly. Go and ask Adrian Pennock or Ronnie Sinclaire. Unbelievable but sadly true. So where are these talented stars now? You only get one chance to develop... |
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Post by prem4stoke on May 14, 2013 23:42:21 GMT
So where are these talented stars now? You only get one chance to develop... Your right Stoke better sort it out then it's nowt to do with Pulis however |
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Post by stokeyouth on May 15, 2013 0:15:31 GMT
Yeah because if there was, say, 3 in the team that were good players and the rest were shit, they'd be top of the league wouldn't they?. Jesus hates Christ. The phrase you are groping for is Jesus H. Christ. The 'H' stands for 'Holy'. Jesus Holy Christ. What a **** ;D A lot of people say 'Hates' now as a pun/parody from 'H'. It caught on and like I said a lot of people do it. The embarrassing bit is when you try and correct them |
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Post by sage on May 15, 2013 1:45:23 GMT
Interestingly enough the league position of the youth teams is the decisive factor in Tone releasing players or not despite the advice of coaches who beg him to give some youngsters the opportunity to be developed further. A absolute fact that I have witnessed directly. Go and ask Adrian Pennock or Ronnie Sinclaire. Unbelievable but sadly true. That's because he refuses to acknowledge there's any place for individual talent or skill within a team. |
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2013 1:54:45 GMT
Yeah because if there was, say, 3 in the team that were good players and the rest were shit, they'd be top of the league wouldn't they?. Jesus hates Christ. The phrase you are groping for is Jesus H. Christ. The 'H' stands for 'Holy'. Jesus Holy Christ. And the pisstake you are missing is flying somewhere directly over your head.  |
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on May 15, 2013 1:55:56 GMT
Pulis clearly cares little about the academy.
The academy clearly produces very little quality.
Sometimes both sides of the argument are right.
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Post by PotterLog on May 15, 2013 1:56:22 GMT
Threadbare, eff. Cuvelier will be 45 before he gets a chance at 'front of the house' footy. Our youth policy is meandering along just fine, we have a manager who simply ignores it! Any of them good enough? I love this argument - like some clubs are just really jammy that they turn out a load of young players who are 'good enough'. |
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Post by greyman on May 15, 2013 5:51:25 GMT
Threadbare, eff. Cuvelier will be 45 before he gets a chance at 'front of the house' footy. Our youth policy is meandering along just fine, we have a manager who simply ignores it! Any of them good enough? If it was just a matter of them being 'good enough', we could do away with the Academy and let them have the odd kick about on Wolstanton Marsh then straight into the first team. The club is not geared up to developing players because the manager isn't interested, not when he can keep his job by spending tens of millions of pounds on older players with no resale value. Remember Pulis would have shut the Academy years ago if given the choice because all that money could have been spent on Edu, Ness, Soares, Tonge, Upson, Woodgate and Owen. |
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Post by JoeinOz on May 15, 2013 5:55:55 GMT
At 23 Ryan Giggs had won 3 leagues and two FA Cups. They must have just been lucky to have an exceptional kiddy.
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Post by greyman on May 15, 2013 5:59:31 GMT
Pfft. At the age of 23, Pele had won two World Cups.  All you need to know about how we approach the issue of developing players is to look at a typical bench line-up. Sorensen Cameron Whitehead Kightly Jones Owen Jerome The only time we have proper 'kiddies' getting a look in is when Pulis wants to throw games. |
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Post by lordeffinghamhunt on May 15, 2013 6:24:49 GMT
At the age of 24 some of the inhabitants of places like Bentilee are already grand parents!
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 15, 2013 9:37:27 GMT
I love this argument - like some clubs are just really jammy that they turn out a load of young players who are 'good enough'. I'm more on about people saying we aren't giving them a chance and always loaning them out, that's why I asked if they are good enough, hopefully with the new academy we'll also have a good structure of youth coaches and scouts and they can start working to improve with regards to bringing them on, but I ask again, out of the youngsters we have now are any of them good enough? |
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Post by greyman on May 15, 2013 9:47:41 GMT
Does it matter if Pulis isn't interested?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on May 15, 2013 9:50:27 GMT
Let's start by reducing the average age of the first team squad then, particularly our First XI. If Crouch and Jones go you'd hope the two strikers coming in would be mid 20s if possible and any wingers are likely to be younger than Etherington. Christ, even Shea might get a look in.
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