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Post by spitthedog on May 3, 2013 21:27:23 GMT
In nearly every interview I had had the misfortune to listen in recent weeks. TP has gone on about how well we played at Everton. Looking back at the match reports, his enthusiasm wasn't quite shared by the reporters. A case of re-writing history? Telegraph - Pulis insisted his side does not get enough credit for their “good football”. It was a debateable observation. “It’s our fifth season in the Premier League and our away performances have been much better this year,” he insisted. “It’s 40 points we need to get, however we get them.” They will probably survive because there are three worse teams in the league, but regardless of how their manager wants to be perceived, their vertical drift in 2013 is reflective of the fact they have relied on a single dimension for too long. Corners, free-kicks and throw-ins remain their chief aspiration.Guardian - Ryan Shawcross's rugby tackle on Nikica Jelavic earned the Stoke captain a booking and Everton a free-kick on the edge of the area, but Leighton Baines blasted into the wall. Fortunately for the hosts, this was not a day when they needed the cushion of the extra goal. Throughout the remainder of the match Stoke City could not really test Tim Howard and the goal of Kevin Mirallas was more than enough for Everton to collect all 3 points and win the encounter without much difficulty. Independent- Stoke did have fleeting moments but their midfield stubbornness renders taking hold of a game virtually impossible.. The noise coming from the Potteries earlier in the season had been that they wanted to forgo the physical onslaught that has served them so well in the past in a bid to appease supporters with a brand of football befitting a club aspiring to break into the Premier League's top 10. But when Tony Pulis, Stoke's manager, ordered Shotton to stop taking throws quickly, it told the whole story. As it stands, they still have that chance to once again finish higher than before. Credit to them for that, but the frustration festering among supporters is that Pulis has blown millions on attacking players – a staggering £80 million spent in the last five years – without evolving their style.So when they won a free-kick in the final third, the rigidity of Pulis's set-up should have at least equipped them to pick up a second ball and continue aerially probing. The worrying soft centre that has suddenly surfaced, however, allowed Everton to break. BBC - 'An uninspired match'www.goal.com - Both sides had real difficulty in stringing passes together throughout the opening half hour on Merseyside and so it was perhaps unsurprising that the first goal came through a moment of individual inspiration. Rather unsurprisingly, the second half started in similar fashion, before the cloud of mediocrity was lifted with 20 minutes gone as Huth and Jelavic both went close with headed efforts at either end. The match largely petered out from that point on. Sky Sports - Kevin Mirallas' stunning solo goal illuminated an often drab and uninspiring 1-0 victory for Everton over Stoke at Goodison Park. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 3, 2013 21:32:51 GMT
I do most of my dissecting in the lab.. I find it easier to mop up the blood...
{Is this the right thread I'm in. This is the 'most managers talk shite' thing?}
Nice work though. Shows commitment.
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Post by sufolkstokie on May 3, 2013 21:38:35 GMT
We were indeed not very good - but today he banged on about how unlucky we were at fulham. Granted, the not so super JW missed a peno, but the first half was absolute gash from us, again - same as last year and the year before
Granted, at Everton we played same as normal but they got the one goal and we didnt. Bugga all to do with luck and much more todo with his mentaility to percentage football - sometimes the percentages work and sometimes they dont
Talk of luck - Baggies away last two years, Spuds 2nd year, Villa 1st year, Spuds at home last year, Southampton at home this year, Villa at home 1st year, 3rd year - it goes both ways
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Post by cousindupree on May 3, 2013 22:00:28 GMT
You have to understand that TP's idea of played well is very different from most other observers.Indeed compared to some away performances the Everton effort was almost on a different level. His plan is to keep chanting the mantra that we have played better away this year until people believe him.He will use this when he talks bollox at the end of the season and says we have improved.
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Post by Stoke711 on May 3, 2013 22:14:40 GMT
Always thought TP's idea of playing well was losing 1-0, so in this case spot on
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Post by spitthedog on May 3, 2013 22:28:19 GMT
I do most of my dissecting in the lab.. I find it easier to mop up the blood... {Is this the right thread I'm in. This is the 'most managers talk shite' thing?} Nice work though. Shows commitment. Is there really any other manager who stresses in virtually every interview how well they have played in earlier games, when everyone else thought they were gash? I think its just weird! You would think he would stay quiet about such uninspired performances. |
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 3, 2013 22:58:49 GMT
One of TP's most endearing features IMHO is his media unsaviness.
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Post by Gods on May 3, 2013 23:15:17 GMT
Well done spit you've managed to flush out a few members of the 'everything TP says is offensive to me' loon club. More to follow I'm sure  |
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Post by whereami on May 3, 2013 23:30:34 GMT
One of TP's most endearing features IMHO is his media unsaviness. Oh I dont know about that, he'd managed to spin the yarn about "plucky little stoke fighting above themselves" up to a month or 2 back with the press. He has the local media running scared of asking him anything he wouldnt want to be asked, lest they be banned (again). He courts certain journalists (Spinks, Pearce) with the skill of a Mourinho.. while all the time giving the appearance to some that he's just honest little Tony. Seems pretty media savvy to me. |
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Post by Deleted on May 3, 2013 23:52:42 GMT
This could be why we're still paying Sid Ebays wages...
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 4, 2013 0:14:31 GMT
Negative Appeal is a Marketable Commodity. IMHO.
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Post by thevoid on May 4, 2013 0:29:20 GMT
Can you imagine TP getting pundit work if he was ever in-between jobs?
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Post by cheeesfreeex on May 4, 2013 2:45:04 GMT
One of TP's most endearing features IMHO is his media unsaviness. Oh I dont know about that, he'd managed to spin the yarn about "plucky little stoke fighting above themselves" up to a month or 2 back with the press. He has the local media running scared of asking him anything he wouldnt want to be asked, lest they be banned (again). He courts certain journalists (Spinks, Pearce) with the skill of a Mourinho.. while all the time giving the appearance to some that he's just honest little Tony. Seems pretty media savvy to me. I could unravel the wool of your multi-coloured balaclava whilst I unpick that twaddle for you if you wish... |
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Post by JoeinOz on May 4, 2013 7:46:16 GMT
We were crap at Everton and deserved nothing. That some Stokies thought we did all right and din't deserve to get beaten says how crap we'd actually been.
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Post by jarhead on May 4, 2013 9:51:39 GMT
Any low scoring defeat Away for TP is a result so he can bang the drum of 'we only lost by 1 goal and with a bit of luck we could of got something'....so un-inspiring comments really do sum up the negative tool....and DELUDED!
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Post by ohbottom on May 4, 2013 10:00:14 GMT
Oh I dont know about that, he'd managed to spin the yarn about "plucky little stoke fighting above themselves" up to a month or 2 back with the press. He has the local media running scared of asking him anything he wouldnt want to be asked, lest they be banned (again). He courts certain journalists (Spinks, Pearce) with the skill of a Mourinho.. while all the time giving the appearance to some that he's just honest little Tony. Seems pretty media savvy to me. I could unravel the wool of your multi-coloured balaclava whilst I unpick that twaddle for you if you wish... I seriously doubt if you could. Whereami & Spit have made a reasonable observation of the difference between TP's view and that of the rest of the footballing world. You, on the other hand, are clearly desperate to defend the manager in the face of reason, but as you can't actually do it in any factual way you have resorted to spouting pseudo-cryptic aphorisms. Just my observation, like. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 4, 2013 10:03:09 GMT
We were the better team against Everton and should have won or at least drawn the game, but it wasn't a football master class at any stretch.
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Post by ohbottom on May 4, 2013 10:12:16 GMT
We were the better team against Everton and should have won or at least drawn the game, but it wasn't a football master class at any stretch. I've got to admit I don't remember it like that. I thought it was one of our less bad away performances, and we largely stopped them playing, but I wouldn't have said we deserved anything out of the game. They had more possession, more shots, more corners etc etc. I think the only stat we beat them on was yellow cards.... |
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 4, 2013 10:53:27 GMT
He's going mad. He either believes what he's saying (lets hope he doesn't) or he thinks the more he says it, the more people will believe it. Either way he just looks like an idiot.
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Post by spitthedog on May 4, 2013 11:01:57 GMT
Well done spit you've managed to flush out a few members of the 'everything TP says is offensive to me' loon club. More to follow I'm sure Its not a question of offence, it is delusion we are talking about. There is a fairly straightforward solution here. If the manager wouldn't insist on persisting with his attempts to convince us that something happened which very clearly never occurred there wouldn't really be an issue . If he is also telling the players that they played well when they haven't, then that may be a clue as to why we have struggled so consistently away from home. |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on May 4, 2013 12:32:40 GMT
Pulis should be on Jackanory,when talking about how well we have played.
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Post by whereami on May 4, 2013 20:27:17 GMT
Oh I dont know about that, he'd managed to spin the yarn about "plucky little stoke fighting above themselves" up to a month or 2 back with the press. He has the local media running scared of asking him anything he wouldnt want to be asked, lest they be banned (again). He courts certain journalists (Spinks, Pearce) with the skill of a Mourinho.. while all the time giving the appearance to some that he's just honest little Tony. Seems pretty media savvy to me. I could unravel the wool of your multi-coloured balaclava whilst I unpick that twaddle for you if you wish... I think saying nothing but with lots of flowery language has died with Stuart Halls career mate  |
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