A DIFFERENT POINT OF VIEW

[jukeboxjury]

This is only the second time I have posted on the forum, I have been reading with interst the many different comments made by our supporters.
The point I would like to make is regarding our manager.
I have defended him in the past, and like many have said I never thought I would see Stoke in the premiership.
This season has been one to forget, the manager must take the blame for this, football is a fickle game and any manager in any division of the English league is always looking over his shoulder in case its his turn next.
I feel that his attitude towards the supporters has been poor to
say the least, constant moaning about referee decisions, moaning about the number of games in the Europa league, etc etc.
How refreshing to hear Roberto Martinez in his post match interviews, not once has he made excuses re the FA cup games,he carries himself with dignity and has the respect of not only the supporters but his players as well.
Respect has to be earned in any walk of life and if he does stay I hope it is with a proviso from the chairman that his tactics have to change.
I would like to think that hes had the crap frightened out of him, no one wants to lose their job and their substantial wages.
I also believe there are bad apples in the inner workings of Stoke City, people with their own agendas putting themselves before the fans and even the players.
Its his chance to show in the remaining games that we can play entertaining football with the squad weve got, if not then I am more than happy to say THANK YOU AND GOOD BYE
Sorry to go on a bit.

[alster]

Apr 30, 2013 9:11:09 GMT jukeboxjury said:

This is only the second time I have posted on the forum, I have been reading with interst the many different comments made by our supporters.
The point I would like to make is regarding our manager.
I have defended him in the past, and like many have said I never thought I would see Stoke in the premiership.
This season has been one to forget, the manager must take the blame for this, football is a fickle game and any manager in any division of the English league is always looking over his shoulder in case its his turn next.
I feel that his attitude towards the supporters has been poor to
say the least, constant moaning about referee decisions, moaning about the number of games in the Europa league, etc etc.
How refreshing to hear Roberto Martinez in his post match interviews, not once has he made excuses re the FA cup games,he carries himself with dignity and has the respect of not only the supporters but his players as well.
Respect has to be earned in any walk of life and if he does stay I hope it is with a proviso from the chairman that his tactics have to change.
I would like to think that hes had the crap frightened out of him, no one wants to lose their job and their substantial wages.
I also believe there are bad apples in the inner workings of Stoke City, people with their own agendas putting themselves before the fans and even the players.
Its his chance to show in the remaining games that we can play entertaining football with the squad weve got, if not then I am more than happy to say THANK YOU AND GOOD BYE
Sorry to go on a bit.

Well first of all let me educate you in the psyche of Tony Pulis. Never let a handful of games of any description cloud your opinion of him. We could win the last 3 games 4 and 5 nil playing really attacking football. He'll still find monsters under the bed that scare him back into his footballing cocoon. He's been a manager for 20 odd years always playing negative hoofball, always having low scoring teams that play scared football, afraid to win for the fear of losing. He will not change do not let any Indian summer sway your judgement. Unless you want to keep him knowing what he is because you're frightened of the alternatives, HE SIMPLY HAS TO GO, thank him if you must.

[jukeboxjury]

I guess Im just an eternal optimist

[geoff321]

jukeboxjury,

" I feel the attitude to supporters has been poor to "

I have listened to most of the interviews given by Tony Pulis and I have only ever heard him praise the supporters.
Being critical of referees, or the number of games in Europe is not criticism of the fans.

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geoff,again you're right......however, if you substitute the word "Criticise" for "Patronise" or "Treat like f@*ing idiots" then unfortunately your argument falls down!

[alster]

Apr 30, 2013 14:36:12 GMT mickmillslovechild said:

geoff,again you're right......however, if you substitute the word "Criticise" for "Patronise" or "Treat like f@*ing idiots" then unfortunately your argument falls down!

I don't know he says I'm not sensible, is that critical or just patronising.

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Apr 30, 2013 14:41:11 GMT alster said:

Apr 30, 2013 14:36:12 GMT mickmillslovechild said:

geoff,again you're right......however, if you substitute the word "Criticise" for "Patronise" or "Treat like f@*ing idiots" then unfortunately your argument falls down!

I don't know he says I'm not sensible, is that critical or just patronising.

neither...i believe that just qualifies as "Bad luck"

[Stoke711]

Apr 30, 2013 14:42:48 GMT mickmillslovechild said:

Apr 30, 2013 14:41:11 GMT alster said:

I don't know he says I'm not sensible, is that critical or just patronising.

neither...i believe that just qualifies as "Bad luck"

If he's not sure, surely it just didn't drop for him

[alster]

Apr 30, 2013 14:46:03 GMT Stoke711 said:

Apr 30, 2013 14:42:48 GMT mickmillslovechild said:

neither...i believe that just qualifies as "Bad luck"

If he's not sure, surely it just didn't drop for him

Think it might be because I haven't got the right DNA.

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Apr 30, 2013 14:46:03 GMT Stoke711 said:

Apr 30, 2013 14:42:48 GMT mickmillslovechild said:

neither...i believe that just qualifies as "Bad luck"

If he's not sure, surely it just didn't drop for him

i don't feel any need to qualify my answer stoke711, i answer to admin not the fans