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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 24, 2013 7:04:46 GMT
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2013 7:32:33 GMT
Shit, that's bad news.
Thank Christ we got that win on Saturday.
I wasn't expecting to see Matty but losing Jerome's pace and having to think of the alternatives at left back is not good at all.
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Apr 24, 2013 7:39:28 GMT
Just what we fucking needed M.Owen to start?  |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 24, 2013 7:52:20 GMT
Thats it! Pulis out!!!!!!!  |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 24, 2013 7:57:19 GMT
Shit, that's bad news. Thank Christ we got that win on Saturday. I wasn't expecting to see Matty but losing Jerome's pace and having to think of the alternatives at left back is not good at all. It sounds like Jerome will make it, albeit with the odd injection. But no surprise re Matty or Marc really - you kinda knew at QPR that that was that for WIlson re hamstring Therefore reckon the team will be Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Nzonzi Kightly Jerome Crouch and if Jerome dont make it Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Adam Nzonzi Kightly Crouch |
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Post by nik80 on Apr 24, 2013 8:06:19 GMT
I think so unfortunately. Over the last two seasons he's not been able to emulate the form he was in leading up to his injury vs Wolves. Whilst a player of his age's ability to beat defences might have waned naturally over that that time period anyway, Matty's inability to remain fit for any length of time means the potential to develop his game in a way say Ryan Giggs has had to, has been seriously hampered. He was a solid player for us for two and a half seasons, arguably we saw some of the best football he ever played in our second and third season in the prem, reckon we definitely got our money's worth out of that signing! I'd love him to get fit to use for twenty minutes off the bench but I think the days of us penning him in as our first choice left winger are surely past. |
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Post by nik80 on Apr 24, 2013 8:08:08 GMT
Shit, that's bad news. Thank Christ we got that win on Saturday. I wasn't expecting to see Matty but losing Jerome's pace and having to think of the alternatives at left back is not good at all. It sounds like Jerome will make it, albeit with the odd injection. But no surprise re Matty or Marc really - you kinda knew at QPR that that was that for WIlson re hamstring Therefore reckon the team will be Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Nzonzi Kightly Jerome Crouch and if Jerome dont make it Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Adam Nzonzi Kightly Crouch And I'd be happy enough with either of these sides, obviously first over second |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 24, 2013 8:24:22 GMT
I think so unfortunately. Over the last two seasons he's not been able to emulate the form he was in leading up to his injury vs Wolves. Whilst a player of his age's ability to beat defences might have waned naturally over that that time period anyway, Matty's inability to remain fit for any length of time means the potential to develop his game in a way say Ryan Giggs has had to, has been seriously hampered. He was a solid player for us for two and a half seasons, arguably we saw some of the best football he ever played in our second and third season in the prem, reckon we definitely got our money's worth out of that signing! I'd love him to get fit to use for twenty minutes off the bench but I think the days of us penning him in as our first choice left winger are surely past. Looks that way Nik. I still remember him first game at the Brit flying down the wing, skinning players. He was just what we needed |
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Post by ColonelMustard on Apr 24, 2013 8:39:53 GMT
Shit, that's bad news. Thank Christ we got that win on Saturday. I wasn't expecting to see Matty but losing Jerome's pace and having to think of the alternatives at left back is not good at all. It sounds like Jerome will make it, albeit with the odd injection. But no surprise re Matty or Marc really - you kinda knew at QPR that that was that for WIlson re hamstring Therefore reckon the team will be Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Nzonzi Kightly Jerome Crouch and if Jerome dont make it Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Adam Nzonzi Kightly Crouch Is Cameron injured? |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 24, 2013 8:45:16 GMT
Injections for a knock to his ankle according to Sentinel - they state him as an early doubt, but then go on to say he is having injections to get him through the season - so who knows?
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Post by geoffscott on Apr 24, 2013 8:58:34 GMT
[/quote]Is Cameron injured?
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No, but he's not very good.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2013 8:59:13 GMT
It sounds like Jerome will make it, albeit with the odd injection. But no surprise re Matty or Marc really - you kinda knew at QPR that that was that for WIlson re hamstring Therefore reckon the team will be Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Nzonzi Kightly Jerome Crouch and if Jerome dont make it Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Adam Nzonzi Kightly Crouch Is Cameron injured? I know he's not a fullback by trade but I think Tone may have realised that he isn't that reliable in all honesty. It's a personal view I know but I just don't rate the lad. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 24, 2013 9:00:37 GMT
If Ethers is out then surely the natural replacement is the International left winger we've just spent a couple of million on?
Like for like.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 24, 2013 9:03:53 GMT
If Ethers is out then surely the natural replacement is the International left winger we've just spent a couple of million on? Like for like. You crazy fool!  |
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Post by jeycov on Apr 24, 2013 9:09:57 GMT
Jeromes pace alongside Crouch has improved our attack imo and if he is fit enough my vote would go to him.
If he's likely to need subbing then this may be a risk too far.
Owen and Brek may have a role to play here, or Jones and Crouch?
An unenviable task for TP if Jerome can't play.
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Post by Sammz on Apr 24, 2013 9:21:16 GMT
The Crouch / Jones combo has been tried before (once I think) & it didn't work but, if needs must, surely 18 million quid's worth of footballer can manage to pose a half decent goal threat... from set pieces if nothing else?!
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2013 9:22:14 GMT
I don't think Etherington's career is over, but perhaps at Stoke City it is. He could walk into any Championship club and probably still get a game at a few Premiership clubs. Wilson is a big problem, because it's back to a square peg in a round hole. We'll probably go for Cameron at left back, which is about as good as we can get with our current squad.
Jerome is the worry. He was the difference against QPR really. He made Cristopher Samba, a player linked with Manchester United and other big clubs not so long ago, look like a Sunday league player. As an individual, he's actually quite rare in the sense that he possesses incredible pace but is also quite a big strong player (6ft1 I think?) so provides an adequate aerial threat. He compliments our style well because our long passing is hit and miss at the moment, yet he seems to feed off scraps brilliantly. How many long passes that turn into loose balls do we see Jerome feed on behind the defence? There were about 3 in the first half alone against QPR.
If we lose Jerome I actually think we should play Owen. This is the time for bold moves. Walters won't score a goal now till the end of the season. I'd go for Owen and Crouch and play Walters on the left.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 24, 2013 9:27:16 GMT
The thing is Metal, Matty has had this recurring back problem for 2 years now. A fit Matty would still be an asset, but he just can not shake this injury which is a damn shame. Does not matter what league he is playing in, if his back keeps going
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2013 9:30:02 GMT
The thing is Metal, Matty has had this recurring back problem for 2 years now. A fit Matty would still be an asset, but he just can not shake this injury which is a damn shame. Does not matter what league he is playing in, if his back keeps going That is true. When Etherington has been fit, he's actually played well. I remember a few months ago when he looked like he was 21 again, I forget who against. Running at players, beating players, decent crosses. He was fantastic for a period of the game. Unfortunately, it's the one and only time he's done it this season. |
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Post by scfcwebby on Apr 24, 2013 9:51:04 GMT
Is that why Breky boy had a run out in the reserves this week to test his match fitness??  |
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Post by BigKahunaBurger on Apr 24, 2013 9:52:59 GMT
Is that why Breky boy had a run out in the reserves this week to test his match fitness?? That's what i was thinking. Hope so |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2013 9:58:09 GMT
Shit, that's bad news. Thank Christ we got that win on Saturday. I wasn't expecting to see Matty but losing Jerome's pace and having to think of the alternatives at left back is not good at all. It sounds like Jerome will make it, albeit with the odd injection. But no surprise re Matty or Marc really - you kinda knew at QPR that that was that for WIlson re hamstring Therefore reckon the team will be Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Nzonzi Kightly Jerome Crouch and if Jerome dont make it Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Adam Nzonzi Kightly Crouch Why would you want to stick Crouch up front on his own again? Much better to play him just behind Jerome in a 4-4-2 like we did at QPR. Crouch is garbage when he leads the line in a 4-4-1-1. If Jerome is out, I'd make a straight switch for Owen (but I don't know what his fintness is like) and partner him in a 2 again with Crouch, or failing that, I'd revert to Walters playing behind Jones. Crouch has to play in a '2' or not at all imo. |
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Post by nik80 on Apr 24, 2013 10:04:01 GMT
I don't think Etherington's career is over, but perhaps at Stoke City it is. He could walk into any Championship club and probably still get a game at a few Premiership clubs. Wilson is a big problem, because it's back to a square peg in a round hole. We'll probably go for Cameron at left back, which is about as good as we can get with our current squad. Jerome is the worry. He was the difference against QPR really. He made Cristopher Samba, a player linked with Manchester United and other big clubs not so long ago, look like a Sunday league player. As an individual, he's actually quite rare in the sense that he possesses incredible pace but is also quite a big strong player (6ft1 I think?) so provides an adequate aerial threat. He compliments our style well because our long passing is hit and miss at the moment, yet he seems to feed off scraps brilliantly. How many long passes that turn into loose balls do we see Jerome feed on behind the defence? There were about 3 in the first half alone against QPR. If we lose Jerome I actually think we should play Owen. This is the time for bold moves. Walters won't score a goal now till the end of the season. I'd go for Owen and Crouch and play Walters on the left. He can't stay fit though mate. If he could he'd still get in our side probably |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 24, 2013 10:05:43 GMT
It sounds like Jerome will make it, albeit with the odd injection. But no surprise re Matty or Marc really - you kinda knew at QPR that that was that for WIlson re hamstring Therefore reckon the team will be Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Nzonzi Kightly Jerome Crouch and if Jerome dont make it Begovic Shotts Huth Shaw Wilko Walters Glenda Adam Nzonzi Kightly Crouch Why would you want to stick Crouch up front on his own again? Much better to play him just behind Jerome in a 4-4-2 like we did at QPR. Crouch is garbage when he leads the line in a 4-4-1-1. If Jerome is out, I'd make a straight switch for Owen (but I don't know what his fintness is like) and partner him in a 2 again with Crouch, or failing that, I'd revert to Walters playing behind Jones. Crouch has to play in a '2' or not at all imo. Read it again Spence. It is not what I would do, but what I think the capped one will do Your bonkers if you think he will start with Owen, or drop Crouch for Jones |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2013 10:09:22 GMT
Why would you want to stick Crouch up front on his own again? Much better to play him just behind Jerome in a 4-4-2 like we did at QPR. Crouch is garbage when he leads the line in a 4-4-1-1. If Jerome is out, I'd make a straight switch for Owen (but I don't know what his fintness is like) and partner him in a 2 again with Crouch, or failing that, I'd revert to Walters playing behind Jones. Crouch has to play in a '2' or not at all imo. Read it again Spence. It is not what I would do, but what I think the capped one will do Your bonkers if you think he will start with Owen, or drop Crouch for Jones Well why do you think Pulis will change it from the team against QPR? It worked miles better with Crouch playing off Jerome. I expect he'll stick with the same team as on Saturday save for replacing Wilson, he'd be nuts not to. |
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Post by mightymike on Apr 24, 2013 10:11:07 GMT
Jerome is a doubt
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Post by metalhead on Apr 24, 2013 10:11:35 GMT
Because Jerome might be injured...?
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Post by nik80 on Apr 24, 2013 10:12:18 GMT
The thing is Metal, Matty has had this recurring back problem for 2 years now. A fit Matty would still be an asset, but he just can not shake this injury which is a damn shame. Does not matter what league he is playing in, if his back keeps going That is true. When Etherington has been fit, he's actually played well. I remember a few months ago when he looked like he was 21 again, I forget who against. Running at players, beating players, decent crosses. He was fantastic for a period of the game. Unfortunately, it's the one and only time he's done it this season. I think he'd have more chance of doing that from the bench. Matty's been a good lad, if we can look after him and use him sparingly he might still be a useful squad member. Dogged with injury though, it wouldn't surprise me if he never truly recovers, god knows what's up with him. We've been told back trouble, jaw trouble and wasn't the actual injury against Wolves his hamstring? Just seems to be crocked these days unfortunately |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 24, 2013 10:14:30 GMT
Because Jerome might be injured...? I'm talking about Suffolk's post, where the team is based on Jerome 'making it'. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 24, 2013 10:27:50 GMT
Because he likes a winger at home and he pulled Adam off at QPR as quick as he could
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