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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2013 19:44:32 GMT
God knows! I think You'd have to cut back massively. Lots of players gone, staff sacked and so on. And if we don't go up in two/three years You'd probably have to look at downgrading the academy so You cut the costs. You'd hope for a a bit of cash from Bego and Shawcross and then 2-5 million for the likes of Huth/Wilson/Adam/N'Zonzi/Jones. And give part of it a new bloke to invest. As I put above we've got the skeleton of a decent enough Championship side that could attack and score which is what You need. It's going to be hard because the club in terms of staff numbers and the bill along with that is a Premier League club. Losing that will be disastrous for those that will have to be sacked and the businesses that rely on it. It's a mess.
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Post by scfc75 on Apr 17, 2013 19:45:41 GMT
Part A Pass Part B Shoot Part C Score If Pulis has read this he's now on the phone to Kempy. "I've seen it all now... There are some idiots on that Oatcake site"
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 21:48:42 GMT
We have the makings of a decent side for the Championship. Butland Wilko ? ? ? Kightly Whelan Cameron Shea Cuvelier Jerome remember we still have upson, delap etc. Whelan and whitehead, ethers would stay, shotton, walters, cameron... At least there is a positive in tony keeping below par players... Maybe that was his plan
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 21:51:25 GMT
Oh edu and ness too
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 17, 2013 21:52:12 GMT
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results. Albert Einstein
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2013 21:55:24 GMT
We have the makings of a decent side for the Championship. Butland Wilko ? ? ? Kightly Whelan Cameron Shea Cuvelier Jerome remember we still have upson, delap etc. Whelan and whitehead, ethers would stay, shotton, walters, cameron... At least there is a positive in tony keeping below par players... Maybe that was his plan I don't think Upson would want to stay. Delap has injury issues. I'd like to think I'd never see Whitehead in a Stoke shirt ever again. Ethers would want out I think, would he get it? I prefer Wilko to Shotton. Walters on the bench. Cameron is in my side. Edu would leave to play top flight football somewhere. Ness might get a game.
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Post by Pugsley on Apr 17, 2013 22:01:29 GMT
I believe Baldrick is coming up with the plans....
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 22:10:59 GMT
remember we still have upson, delap etc. Whelan and whitehead, ethers would stay, shotton, walters, cameron... At least there is a positive in tony keeping below par players... Maybe that was his plan I don't think Upson would want to stay. Delap has injury issues. I'd like to think I'd never see Whitehead in a Stoke shirt ever again. Ethers would want out I think, would he get it? I prefer Wilko to Shotton. Walters on the bench. Cameron is in my side. Edu would leave to play top flight football somewhere. Ness might get a game. Still, I reckon delap would still be very useful for his throws, upson might be given first team football regularly so you never know. Whitehead captained sunderland in the prem not so long ago so there must be something in him, he'd be a very decent championship player. Same for walters. Would score plenty in the championship imo with his stamina as we saw against palace. Ethers im not sure would be wanted by other prem clubs because of his age which could mean he has no option but to stay. I hope it doesnt come to this anyway, and im sure it wont.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 22:13:05 GMT
I believe Baldrick is coming up with the plans.... He knows what to do with the ball.. BOOM BOOM BOOM! In reality he was only describing stokes tactics.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2013 22:18:51 GMT
I don't think Upson would want to stay. Delap has injury issues. I'd like to think I'd never see Whitehead in a Stoke shirt ever again. Ethers would want out I think, would he get it? I prefer Wilko to Shotton. Walters on the bench. Cameron is in my side. Edu would leave to play top flight football somewhere. Ness might get a game. Still, I reckon delap would still be very useful for his throws, upson might be given first team football regularly so you never know. Whitehead captained sunderland in the prem not so long ago so there must be something in him, he'd be a very decent championship player. Same for walters. Would score plenty in the championship imo with his stamina as we saw against palace. Ethers im not sure would be wanted by other prem clubs because of his age which could mean he has no option but to stay. I hope it doesnt come to this anyway, and im sure it wont. I love Rory but he's 36??? now and the injuries are mounting, I wouldn't completely rule him out but he wouldn't fill me with confidence. With Upson I get the feeling (based on nowt) that he wanted to move further darn sarf, he's out of contract and will have a choice of clubs and if Brighton want to keep him then it's a no brainer for him. Whitehead is fucking useless, on that I won't budge, I'd rather my dead Gran played etc. I think Walters will be very useful but I would have him on the bench and rotate him with Jerome, Jerome is the better player imo and will score more goals. Both are very decent Championship players though. Again I have a feeling that Ethers wants out irrespective. Maybe if TP left that may change I don't know, again I'm guessing but I don't think he wants to stay here.
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 22:22:50 GMT
Still, I reckon delap would still be very useful for his throws, upson might be given first team football regularly so you never know. Whitehead captained sunderland in the prem not so long ago so there must be something in him, he'd be a very decent championship player. Same for walters. Would score plenty in the championship imo with his stamina as we saw against palace. Ethers im not sure would be wanted by other prem clubs because of his age which could mean he has no option but to stay. I hope it doesnt come to this anyway, and im sure it wont. I love Rory but he's 36??? now and the injuries are mounting, I wouldn't completely rule him out but he wouldn't fill me with confidence. With Upson I get the feeling (based on nowt) that he wanted to move further darn sarf, he's out of contract and will have a choice of clubs and if Brighton want to keep him then it's a no brainer for him. Whitehead is fucking useless, on that I won't budge, I'd rather my dead Gran played etc. I think Walters will be very useful but I would have him on the bench and rotate him with Jerome, Jerome is the better player imo and will score more goals. Both are very decent Championship players though. Again I have a feeling that Ethers wants out irrespective. Maybe if TP left that may change I don't know, again I'm guessing but I don't think he wants to stay here. fair enough. I suppose we'd struggle to bounce straight back anyway and then, even if we did, struggle even more to stay up because of the massive gulf in money from the tv deal.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 17, 2013 22:26:59 GMT
I love Rory but he's 36??? now and the injuries are mounting, I wouldn't completely rule him out but he wouldn't fill me with confidence. With Upson I get the feeling (based on nowt) that he wanted to move further darn sarf, he's out of contract and will have a choice of clubs and if Brighton want to keep him then it's a no brainer for him. Whitehead is fucking useless, on that I won't budge, I'd rather my dead Gran played etc. I think Walters will be very useful but I would have him on the bench and rotate him with Jerome, Jerome is the better player imo and will score more goals. Both are very decent Championship players though. Again I have a feeling that Ethers wants out irrespective. Maybe if TP left that may change I don't know, again I'm guessing but I don't think he wants to stay here. fair enough. I suppose we'd struggle to bounce straight back anyway and then, even if we did, struggle even more to stay up because of the massive gulf in money from the tv deal. Probably so, I do like the look of my side though on paper barring the glaring defensive issues! A 4-3-3 type that I think could play a bit of football and mix it up. We have Championship goals in the squad already with Jerome, Walters and Kightly. You add a solid base to that and You should do ok. It's imperative we stay up but if we do go down, TP has signed some good uns!
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 22:30:46 GMT
fair enough. I suppose we'd struggle to bounce straight back anyway and then, even if we did, struggle even more to stay up because of the massive gulf in money from the tv deal. Probably so, I do like the look of my side though on paper barring the glaring defensive issues! A 4-3-3 type that I think could play a bit of football and mix it up. We have Championship goals in the squad already with Jerome, Walters and Kightly. You add a solid base to that and You should do ok. It's imperative we stay up but if we do go down, TP has signed some good uns! tony was planning for this situation all along. Why else would he have championship players in a premierleague squad?
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 22:31:03 GMT
fair enough. I suppose we'd struggle to bounce straight back anyway and then, even if we did, struggle even more to stay up because of the massive gulf in money from the tv deal. Probably so, I do like the look of my side though on paper barring the glaring defensive issues! A 4-3-3 type that I think could play a bit of football and mix it up. We have Championship goals in the squad already with Jerome, Walters and Kightly. You add a solid base to that and You should do ok. It's imperative we stay up but if we do go down, TP has signed some good uns! tony was planning for this situation all along. Why else would he have championship players in a premierleague squad?
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Apr 17, 2013 22:37:13 GMT
Would you look at that. Double post and wont let me delete or edit one.. Fabulous!
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Post by stokemanusa on Apr 17, 2013 22:51:05 GMT
Your all mad' you're thinking players are going to comeback to stoke? haha Were lucky we are in the position we are at in the PL table with the likes of Whelan, nzonzi and ethers not scoring all season How many games to get a goal???? Quite possibly the worst starting MF in PL history as well... I'll be glad to never see them in our kit again' kightly and adam should go aswell with older players retiring or dropping down leagues like Delap who also will never be on the field for stoke again' after this season, if we stay up I can tell you now its going to be a fire sale. Well make 120 mil look like nothing... keeping a few players whose contracts are too much to terminate. Crouch will retire or drop down, owen will become a pundit. Deano will go back to AFC wimbledon and retire like delap at barnsley' Whelan will be sold (as he should of been last season) to a champ side or scottish side. That is reality. No former heros coming back' Start fresh.
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