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Post by teflondel on Apr 16, 2013 15:27:50 GMT
Am just wondering how many will cancel the direct debits if we lose the next 2 games because lets be honest if we get no points from them the writing is on the wall.  |
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Post by pez75 on Apr 16, 2013 15:33:42 GMT
A couple of the lads in the pub were discussing this on Sunday - I wonder if the club have any contingency in place for this happening?
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Post by teflondel on Apr 16, 2013 15:37:14 GMT
Given only £20 paid up front I think there could be a fair few who will think screw it, especially those who were borderline getting them in the first place.
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 16, 2013 15:41:44 GMT
We won't be going down but even if we did why would people not have the season ticket as they intended. You buy it to watch Stoke City not the Premiership.  |
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Post by Sergeant Muttley on Apr 16, 2013 15:48:05 GMT
I really can't understand the mentality of people that would even consider doing this.You support Stoke City whatever league we are in.Shakes head in disbelief.
Yes we've all had enough of the shit being served up and hopefully he's gone come the summer but how this makes anyone cancel a direct debit i really don't know.
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Post by teflondel on Apr 16, 2013 15:48:12 GMT
We won't be going down but even if we did why would people not have the season ticket as they intended. You buy it to watch Stoke City not the Premiership. But that's the point, plenty of fans are willing to go the extra mile and struggle to pay to watch prem football. Ok you get an extra 4 games in the championship but with the turgid shit being served over the last couple of years that is hardly an encouraging prospect lol |
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Post by NG4POTTERS on Apr 16, 2013 15:53:41 GMT
Agree stafford and sarge. I'm not in the position to have a season ticket because of work and all that but no way would any of this have a bearing on my decision. Always stoke, no matter where we ply our trade.
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Post by stokiet90 on Apr 16, 2013 15:57:43 GMT
Just shows how many people are more botherd about the teams we play rather than getting a season ticket to watch stoke.
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Post by greenhoff74 on Apr 16, 2013 15:58:27 GMT
You wouldn't be able to cancel it anyway, you have a contract with Stoke city to purchase the season ticket, it doesn't matter that you've only paid £20 so far you're liable for rest of it.
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Post by jeycov on Apr 16, 2013 16:00:05 GMT
We won't be going down but even if we did why would people not have the season ticket as they intended. You buy it to watch Stoke City not the Premiership. I think that some people do buy a season ticket to see Premiership football. - backed up by an increase is sales / attendances since we've been in the Prem. I can see the attraction of this and it has meant that most games have been sell outs Many do however, buy them to see Stoke city play every week come what may and are the core of the clubs support Not sure if there is a cancellation policy with the season ticket set up. Doubters, should have waited to commit to buy, taken the risk of losing their current seat and been prepared to pay more if the Early Bird offer is a cheaper option imo |
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Post by pez75 on Apr 16, 2013 16:00:11 GMT
You wouldn't be able to cancel it anyway, you have a contract with Stoke city to purchase the season ticket, it doesn't matter that you've only paid £20 so far you're liable for rest of it. This is what our discussion was based on - have you signed a credit agreement - if so you are fucked, or have you only signed a DD - in which case if you cancel then you can cut your losses and the club have no comeback... |
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Post by stokester1989 on Apr 16, 2013 16:07:57 GMT
fucking embarrasing!
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Post by jeycov on Apr 16, 2013 16:11:19 GMT
Reading the details on my application form you may be able to cancel the direct debit - you lose the £20 deposit and the season ticket previously allocated to you is returned.
If you want to commit to a season ticket any time after this it's pay up in full, no direct debit facility.
If you are seriously wanting to cancel then you really need to contact the club as well as your bank
If you've already paid in full, I think that you probably lose admin fees.
Cheer up we may still be in the Prem! (if this matters to you)
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Post by BristolMick on Apr 16, 2013 16:43:25 GMT
What matters to me is I don't want to watch one more minute of the anti football served up by Pulis. I bought my 17th season ticket in a row in the hope he will be gone come August. I don't care what division we are in but if he ain't gone come August I won't be showing up until he is.
BM
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 16, 2013 16:54:14 GMT
Read the small print. I am pretty certain that those people have a contract with Stoke City for the full cost of the season ticket.
Meanwhile, DaveJohnno is laughing at BristolMicks comments above! It takes me back to a time in a bar in Tel Aviv!
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Post by Kewstokie on Apr 16, 2013 17:01:00 GMT
Read the small print. I am pretty certain that those people have a contract with Stoke City for the full cost of the season ticket. I agree with dave 2 options really, take the BM route and hope TP is gone or take the route I did, not renew and be prepared to take the double hit of losing my preferred seat and pay the higher price if TP is gone. Pays your money makes your choice - no half way house. |
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Post by BristolMick on Apr 16, 2013 17:14:28 GMT
Read the small print. I am pretty certain that those people have a contract with Stoke City for the full cost of the season ticket. Meanwhile, DaveJohnno is laughing at BristolMicks comments above! It takes me back to a time in a bar in Tel Aviv! Yes mate, I had a right lively discussion with a fellow Stokie in there that night who wouldn't hear a bad word about Pulis. Didn't get much support from you though! BM |
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Apr 16, 2013 17:18:08 GMT
We won't be going down but even if we did why would people not have the season ticket as they intended. You buy it to watch Stoke City not the Premiership. Yeah I'm kind of with you here stafford. I have no problem with watching championship football. You get better value for money (particularly if Pulis gets the chop) and its generally a far more entertaining league. I might be able to go to away games once again too because we might actually try and win them. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 16, 2013 17:23:25 GMT
We won't be going down but even if we did why would people not have the season ticket as they intended. You buy it to watch Stoke City not the Premiership. Yeah I'm kind of with you here stafford. I have no problem with watching championship football. You get better value for money (particularly if Pulis gets the chop) and its generally a far more entertaining league. I might be able to go to away games once again too because we might actually try and win them. 4 more games for our money in the Championsip! I plan to send a cheque to the club to cover the extra 4 games in the unlikely event of us getting relegated!  |
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Post by desman2 on Apr 16, 2013 17:43:23 GMT
Cant imagine the platinum plus will sell big
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Apr 16, 2013 17:47:56 GMT
Cant imagine the platinum plus will sell big Perhaps they'll bring back the True Supporters Card - that would please Guernsey Dave!  |
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Post by dadger on Apr 16, 2013 17:53:53 GMT
Yeah I'm kind of with you here stafford. I have no problem with watching championship football. You get better value for money (particularly if Pulis gets the chop) and its generally a far more entertaining league. I might be able to go to away games once again too because we might actually try and win them. 4 more games for our money in the Championsip! I plan to send a cheque to the club to cover the extra 4 games in the unlikely event of us getting relegated!  |
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Post by 1982stokie on Apr 16, 2013 18:10:20 GMT
I could understand you cancelling if Pulis is still here but not because we went down that's the kind of shit I would expect from a Man U fan. Ultimately it would not matter if we were in league two I would have my season ticket I support stoke not the premiership. Hopfully we will stay up with a new manager maybe we will even count away games. But if we go down I will still be there
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Post by farmer on Apr 16, 2013 19:08:15 GMT
I thought you brought a season ticket to go and watch the team you support,but it looks like a lot of people on this board only buy a season ticket because we are in the prem.The only reason you must be thinking of cancelling is because if we get relegated you do not intend to watch Stoke.The price of the season ticket is the same price as when we got promoted so is very good value in real terms so it makes not sense to cancel.People who canceled before the dead line did it for other reasons at least they had the balls to be honest,those who want to cancel if we get relegated are just glory hunters.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 19:16:13 GMT
You wouldn't be able to cancel it anyway, you have a contract with Stoke city to purchase the season ticket, it doesn't matter that you've only paid £20 so far you're liable for rest of it. Im not sure you know ... (i paid mine in one sum)...however i think under the distance selling rules you have 30 days to change your mind, and they would have to refund any payments made. Something tells me that if you signed up in person, you are not covered, if you signed up by post .... you have entered a credit agreement, and therefore are able to cancel. But i also may have mixed up loads of wrong things here and could be spouting complete bollox!! Help!! Someone must have the terms and conditions or experience with this? |
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Post by pottersrule on Apr 16, 2013 19:25:39 GMT
Why the duck would you cancell?The season ticket cost the same now as it did in the championship.Fuckin quitters this really is embarrassing.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 19:30:07 GMT
I dont think anyone said they were cancelling. i think the thread is debating if it is possible to cancel, and if so, what impact that would have given the last few months on fans.......
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2013 19:31:28 GMT
You wouldn't be able to cancel it anyway, you have a contract with Stoke city to purchase the season ticket, it doesn't matter that you've only paid £20 so far you're liable for rest of it. Im not sure you know ... (i paid mine in one sum)...however i think under the distance selling rules you have 30 days to change your mind, and they would have to refund any payments made. Something tells me that if you signed up in person, you are not covered, if you signed up by post .... you have entered a credit agreement, and therefore are able to cancel. But i also may have mixed up loads of wrong things here and could be spouting complete bollox!! Help!! Someone must have the terms and conditions or experience with this? I think that in principle, you're committed to having your S/T if you've signed up for the installment plan - however....I'm not convinced that this would be enforceable. You have paid a deposit - BUT - you haven't received the 'goods' - and if you cancel the DD, and refuse to pay and don't want the S/T any longer - then although it maybe against the spirit of the arrangement, I cannot see that the club can force you to take something that you no longer want, and you can argue that you don't want the S/T so from the fairness perspective, you're not paying, the S/T isn't being supplied. If you cancelled the DD and said that you weren't paying for the S/T, it's in the club's interest to get it back on sale again asap. Not to piss about chasing you for money you won't pay, for a S/T you don't want. There will be a reason for them taking a deposit up-front - it maybe that this is non-refundable and in the event of the above, it's intended as a commitment 'buy-in' - ie you're less likely to cancel if you have already paid a deposit. It might even be that they have to take a deposit to make the agreement enforceable. Perhaps? EDIT - I assume that this wouldn't apply for example if you bought a £3000 suite from DFS that was being manufactured-to-order. In that case you've probably got to take the goods and the agreement is worded as such. |
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Post by dixynormas on Apr 16, 2013 19:36:21 GMT
We won't be going down but even if we did why would people not have the season ticket as they intended. You buy it to watch Stoke City not the Premiership. Completely agree with you. However its not easy for some people to scrape 600 quid together to watch their team, so when they do get the money they will want to see good value for it, they might feel that Championship football isn't worth the money that they have to work their bollocks off to get. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Apr 16, 2013 19:37:03 GMT
Im not sure you know ... (i paid mine in one sum)...however i think under the distance selling rules you have 30 days to change your mind, and they would have to refund any payments made. Something tells me that if you signed up in person, you are not covered, if you signed up by post .... you have entered a credit agreement, and therefore are able to cancel. But i also may have mixed up loads of wrong things here and could be spouting complete bollox!! Help!! Someone must have the terms and conditions or experience with this? I think that in principle, you're committed to having your S/T if you've signed up for the installment plan - however....I'm not convinced that this would be enforceable. You have paid a deposit - BUT - you haven't received the 'goods' - and if you cancel the DD, and refuse to pay and don't want the S/T any longer - then although it maybe against the spirit of the arrangement, I cannot see that the club can force you to take something that you no longer want, and you can argue that you don't want the S/T so from the fairness perspective, you're not paying, the S/T isn't being supplied. If you cancelled the DD and said that you weren't paying for the S/T, it's in the club's interest to get it back on sale again asap. Not to piss about chasing you for money you won't pay, for a S/T you don't want. There will be a reason for them taking a deposit up-front - it maybe that this is non-refundable and in the event of the above, it's intended as a commitment 'buy-in' - ie you're less likely to cancel if you have already paid a deposit. It might even be that they have to take a deposit to make the agreement enforceable. Perhaps? EDIT - I assume that this wouldn't apply for example if you bought a £3000 suite from DFS that was being manufactured-to-order. In that case you've probably got to take the goods and the agreement is worded as such. I would also think the club would never allow you to use the DD in the future. Dunna rush back is what I say.  |
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