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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:23:16 GMT
Except for the fans who backed everything again today despite what was happening on the pitch
No leadership on the pitch
No leadership by the manager
And most importantly no leadership by the Chairman
Most of the players look lost
Some of the backroom staff, I am led to believe feel powerless
Nearly 20 months in the making, yet no one, but no one, except the supporters seems to be doing anything about it and even we are happy clapping in the lost hope things may drop for us inspite of the above
Any other club would have done something, right or wrong, but something
Instead we are sleep walking in to the Championship
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2013 21:24:35 GMT
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:28:43 GMT
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeter! That is my great, great uncle (I might have missed a great off) - I kid you not Thing is, the Coates family will not go down with this iceberg hit - enough is enough is what I am hearing |
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Post by thesandbankskid on Apr 14, 2013 21:28:58 GMT
We'll do damned well to stay up now, this sounds a right fucking mess.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Apr 14, 2013 21:29:31 GMT
Totally agree suffolk, the most worrying aspect of this we are going down without a fight and without changing a bloody dam thing to stem the tide
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2013 21:30:56 GMT
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeter! That is my great, great uncle (I might have missed a great off) - I kid you not Thing is, the Coates family will not go down with this iceberg hit - enough is enough is what I am hearing Don't take up sailing ships!  I hope so, I fear it's too late though, I can feel the water coming up my trousers! |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:32:03 GMT
Totally agree suffolk, the most worrying aspect of this we are going down without a fight and without changing a bloody dam thing to stem the tide I think we may be looking at too many chnages JSU and that has nowt to do with the manager - big issues ahead and no clarity on who, what and when |
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Post by jonnybravo on Apr 14, 2013 21:32:20 GMT
Not according to pulis and the media pulis has put this club down so much over the years and we shouldn't be moaning and got remember where we come from like we've always been a nothing club till he turned up and who gives a fuck about charlton and look at them there a half decent championship team not a league 2 team for fuck sake pulis
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Post by dwr17477 on Apr 14, 2013 21:32:57 GMT
Peeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeter! That is my great, great uncle (I might have missed a great off) - I kid you not Thing is, the Coates family will not go down with this iceberg hit - enough is enough is what I am hearing Really? |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:34:26 GMT
That is my great, great uncle (I might have missed a great off) - I kid you not Thing is, the Coates family will not go down with this iceberg hit - enough is enough is what I am hearing Don't take up sailing ships! I hope so, I fear it's too late though, I can feel the water coming up my trousers! Avoided boats all my life, cept one trip to Dublin, which nearly tipped over Re the Coates family thing - mis read me Bayern (my fault) it was not a reference to Pulis but more to future family involvement from what I understand |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 21:35:24 GMT
Re the Coates family thing - mis read me Bayern (my fault) it was not a reference to Pulis but more to future family involvement from what I understand Care to expand on that mate? |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2013 21:35:55 GMT
Don't take up sailing ships! I hope so, I fear it's too late though, I can feel the water coming up my trousers! Avoided boats all my life, cept one trip to Dublin, which nearly tipped over Re the Coates family thing - mis read me Bayern (my fault) it was not a reference to Pulis but more to future family involvement from what I understand  Wise choice! Ah right, I'm with You. I don't understand why anyone would want to buy a football club anyway, so I don't blame them! |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:36:31 GMT
That is my great, great uncle (I might have missed a great off) - I kid you not Thing is, the Coates family will not go down with this iceberg hit - enough is enough is what I am hearing Really? Re My great (whatever) uncle - Yes, really |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Apr 14, 2013 21:36:45 GMT
The crowd even applauded Shotton when he got up having fallen over his own feet.
The club can ask no more of its supporters!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 14, 2013 21:39:01 GMT
The crowd even applauded Shotton when he got up having fallen over his own feet. The club can ask no more of its supporters! A case of laughing or else we'd be on the pitch beating him I think. It had gone past crying! |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:40:51 GMT
Re the Coates family thing - mis read me Bayern (my fault) it was not a reference to Pulis but more to future family involvement from what I understand Care to expand on that mate? Just what I have been told over a glass of wine after the match - but by a client of mine who rarely gives anything away and shouldnt given who he/she represents |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 21:41:40 GMT
Care to expand on that mate? Just what I have been told over a glass of wine after the match - but by a client of mine who rarely gives anything away and shouldnt given who he/she represents Thanks for that. I won't push you for any more information. |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 21:42:28 GMT
Re My great (whatever) uncle - Yes, really My ex partners great grandad was captain smith of the titanic...obviously you are related so ill never speak to you ever again. |
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:47:53 GMT
Re My great (whatever) uncle - Yes, really My ex partners great grandad was captain smith of the titanic...obviously you are related so ill never speak to you ever again. No females on my side for last 60 years (of the family that is, not sexually) - oh come to think about it  |
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Post by interestedobserver on Apr 14, 2013 21:49:51 GMT
Supposedly, during half-time on Fox Soccer there was talk of back-room staff wanting out. I didn't see it myself as I don't watch half-time too intently.
Another thing that popped up on Fox which I did see was an interview with Pulis where he seemed to try to characterize fan discontent with being accustomed how we have done so far in the prem. He said something like "if in three of the last four years we had gone into the final match needing a win, then I think the concern would be justified." -- something to that extent.
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 21:53:02 GMT
Just what I have been told over a glass of wine after the match - but by a client of mine who rarely gives anything away and shouldnt given who he/she represents Thanks for that. I won't push you for any more information. I have no more info, none whatsoever fella My own view on what was said is the 'family' has a different view to Mr C - I have no idea if that view is sod it lets pull out, or new broom or something else. All I took away was there is a split at high level, just like supporters and unless someone grabs leadership, this will end in tears (perhaps much bigger than we can currently imagine) for all of us |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 14, 2013 21:54:01 GMT
My ex partners great grandad was captain smith of the titanic...obviously you are related so ill never speak to you ever again. No females on my side for last 60 years (of the family that is, not sexually) - oh come to think about it I've pm'd you Funny enough she went down easy too |
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Post by frumpy on Apr 14, 2013 22:01:15 GMT
Not that surprising when for years supporters have supported his negative hoof ball tactics simply because of results. The problems have been there for awhile. It's a problem with Tony's system yet it was ignored as long as Stoke edged out random 1-0 results.
Even as recently as a month ago there were plenty on here backing TP and his system. Many traded a competent system for points, ignoring that that incompetent system would eventually cause the problems we're seeing now. No one plays hoof ball for years on end at this level and is safe from relegation, it was bound to happen.
The blind support for hoof ball is what empowered Tony, and it's partly why he's in this situation. But when you back a poor system for years then all the sudden flip your lid at the tail end of this season, I'd say a lack of foresight is an issue. This was always the risk with this manager and system.
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Post by skelman on Apr 14, 2013 22:05:01 GMT
I'm too pissed off to post anymore!
& that's exactly the effect Pulis has had on the squad!
pps - never seen Owen play right wing before!
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Post by Ellan Vannin on Apr 14, 2013 22:22:16 GMT
Except for the fans who backed everything again today despite what was happening on the pitch No leadership on the pitch No leadership by the manager And most importantly no leadership by the Chairman Most of the players look lost Some of the backroom staff, I am led to believe feel powerless Nearly 20 months in the making, yet no one, but no one, except the supporters seems to be doing anything about it and even we are happy clapping in the lost hope things may drop for us inspite of the above Any other club would have done something, right or wrong, but something Instead we are sleep walking in to the Championship I've said the mismanagement from top to bottom of the club to pluck relegation from the jaws of a top 10 finish is monumental. Obviously for me the vast majority of this is with Pulis but from the top to the bottom this club had mismanagement written all over it. Coates appears blinded by loyalty and friendship, which in itself is mismanagement every bit as bad as Pulis picking Walters weeke after week after week after week. The Coates family has made its fortune from gambling, they should take a gamble now and change manager. In fact you could argue its not a gamble at all. We have gained 1 point from 7 games, we can't really do any worse, there is no gamble at all by changing. |
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Post by skelman on Apr 14, 2013 22:26:34 GMT
Bet loads of people in the club are saying privately 'It's his fcukin juice, let him stew in it'.
Think we'll find out before too long just how well respected Pulis isn't by more commentators within the club!
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Post by sufolkstokie on Apr 14, 2013 22:32:08 GMT
Bet loads of people in the club are saying privately 'It's his fcukin juice, let him stew in it'. Think we'll find out before too long just how well respected Pulis isn't by more commentators within the club! That is the crux of the issue - we ar enow in to blame culture (and yes he is to blame), but no one is prepared to shout the Emperor's New Clothes |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Apr 14, 2013 23:22:29 GMT
Capt. Smith did not know the Iceburg was there, but our fecking manager must have seen what was coming for more than 18 months now, but chose to do fuckall about it.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 14, 2013 23:35:11 GMT
He should have gone after the Villa game and O'Neil should have been drafted in for the last 6 games to rally the troops .
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Wise choice!
