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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 6, 2013 23:16:44 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control.
For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:18:13 GMT
Its all bollocks by posters who want a moment of fame Fame to a bunch of randoms. How exciting. If I really wanted to do something I'd create my own thread but I'd rather chuck them in here. After all I have no idea what's going on in the meeting.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:18:57 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control. For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience Technically PC has little control.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2013 23:19:22 GMT
Its all bollocks by posters who want a moment of fame Fame to a bunch of randoms. How exciting. If I really wanted to do something I'd create my own thread but I'd rather chuck them in here. After all I have no idea what's going on in the meeting. I'm not saying you're doing it for attention. I'm only asking how do you know this stuff?
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Apr 6, 2013 23:20:41 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control. For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience Why are we talking like this, why the hell should tony pick his successor, we need a complete sea change and bring some flowing football back for us to enjoy whatever level that may be at after this year.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 6, 2013 23:21:00 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control. For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience Technically PC has little control. * that should say PC not TP he won't be picking the guy the replace him. Who holds most control in the board room then?
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2013 23:21:29 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control. For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience Denise Coates owns 51% of Bet365. I think Peter Coates owns about 15-20%. She will definitely be paying attention to what's going on now, given the amount she has subsidised the club. So will her brother John and her husband. I still think PC will back his man... but questions will be asked now.
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Post by fortressbritannia on Apr 6, 2013 23:22:00 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control. For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience Why are we talking like this, why the hell should tony pick his successor, we need a complete sea change and bring some flowing football back for us to enjoy whatever level that may be at after this year. It was typo it should say PC not TP. My bad.
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Post by bolly_premprem on Apr 6, 2013 23:25:07 GMT
TP being sacked now would be a good thing for all concerned.
1) he keeps his never relegated stat 2) who ever comes in will have no pressure, if we got relegated it was TPs fault not the new guys, if we stay up, the new guy is a hero. 3) coates would be seen as having the balls to sack his 'friend' for the good of the team 4) fans get the chance to have a little hope that the new guy will pick a better lineup 5) players have a few games left to be heros in their own way, staying up would again put the current predicament on the head of TP instead of the players.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:27:42 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control. For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience Denise Coates owns 51% of Bet365. I think Peter Coates owns about 15-20%. She will definitely be paying attention to what's going on now, given the amount she has subsidised the club. So will her brother John and her husband. I still think PC will back his man... but questions will be asked now. He doesn't have that much, John owns around 35-38 and the rest is split between Peter, some non family member whose on the board of directors and I'm not sure but I believe his other children. As far as I'm aware he owns about 5% he doesn't need anymore. Denise can accept it for now while they're still set to make a profit if sold but in all honesty given the chance she would sell tomorrow. I don't think John would sell but he'd drive Pulis to his new club.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:30:10 GMT
Tony won't walk away he's not that sort of man. PC won't sack him unless he's let other members of the family have more control. For me if its down to TP to pick TP's successor he'll have to meet 2 criteria 1) British and 2) have PL experience Denise Coates owns 51% of Bet365. I think Peter Coates owns about 15-20%. She will definitely be paying attention to what's going on now, given the amount she has subsidised the club. So will her brother John and her husband. I still think PC will back his man... but questions will be asked now. questions have been getting asked since last year haven't they?hence pulis' cringeworthy arse-kissing of denise coates in his interviews since last year. its the old man that has kept him in the job and it looks like that stubborness will take us down
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 6, 2013 23:39:17 GMT
Who exactly would come in and keep us up if Pulis were to be sacked as everybody is so keen to get rid? I think we're at shit or bust stage now. Tone doesn't look capable of turning this round as it stands. Very much so, Jamo. Today was pivotal and saw us cross the shit or bust precipice. He's got to go. Today was the most inept display you could ever conjure up in a do-or-die clash. Whoever the decision-maker is has got to put the club beyond personal relationships and make a gigantic call. Over to you, Pete.... If needs be, Gerry Francis will do. We need some jump leads from somewhere or it's a case of finding the way to Barnsley
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:41:01 GMT
The relationship between Coates and Pulis had always baffled me.
Why was Coates so insistant on bringing Pulis back? Why does he seem so reluctant to let him go, considering the money Pulis has wasted, the complete lack of interest that Pulis shows in the youth set-up and the dog-shit football we play?
Always wondered if it was anything to do with the 'politics' going on in the binary season.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 6, 2013 23:47:12 GMT
How much would you pay for the book 'The House that Coates Built: The Inside Story of Stoke City'.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 23:53:17 GMT
How much would you pay for the book 'The House that Coates Built: The Inside Story of Stoke City'. I'd be looking for a chapter titled "The things I did to buy back Stoke City."
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 7, 2013 0:07:22 GMT
I think we're at shit or bust stage now. Tone doesn't look capable of turning this round as it stands. Very much so, Jamo. Today was pivotal and saw us cross the shit or bust precipice. He's got to go. Today was the most inept display you could ever conjure up in a do-or-die clash. Whoever the decision-maker is has got to put the club beyond personal relationships and make a gigantic call. Over to you, Pete.... If needs be, Gerry Francis will do. We need some jump leads from somewhere or it's a case of finding the way to BarnsleyFrancis for me too until the end of the season ... or are we just going to sit there and watch the inevitable unfold instead?
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Post by philm87 on Apr 7, 2013 0:09:35 GMT
Can't we just ask Lou? Or at least try and go for someone like Di Matteo?
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Post by thevoid on Apr 7, 2013 0:12:27 GMT
How much would you pay for the book 'The House that Coates Built: The Inside Story of Stoke City'. It'd be a better read than that cringeworthy article you posted on here last night.
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Post by scfc5 on Apr 7, 2013 0:16:20 GMT
Francis it has to be, with Rudge and/or Peter Reid. Can't believe I am typing it. Bringing someone from the outside isn't wise now when we have GF who knows the squad inside out.
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Post by maxdecarlo on Apr 7, 2013 0:24:10 GMT
the only sensible option is martin o neill- great motivator- look what his imapct was at sunderland over the first few games- hes smarting from being sacked- hes hungry -imagine his motivation in going back to the SOL and securing safety with 3 points- its the only sensible call- its laughableto suggest francis- when did he last manage- o neill or stick with pulis
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 0:45:31 GMT
Di Matteo please. Hell, I'd take Dom Matteo right now...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 7, 2013 0:48:58 GMT
Francis it has to be, with Rudge and/or Peter Reid. Can't believe I am typing it. Bringing someone from the outside isn't wise now when we have GF who knows the squad inside out. Bang on the money mate. Francis knows the players inside out, he understands the dynamics of the squad and he knows who really is fit and in form and who isn't ... he's got all the information available to him that Pulis has but he isn't subject to all the politics that TP is handicapped by. If Francis is put in charge, you could see players like Pennant, Owen and Adam being given a start, not saying that that is personally the players I'd like to see starting but rather I'm making the point that Francis is probably better placed to make a call on team selection than somebody else from the 'outside' coming in. Ultimately he might not bring anything at all to the table but there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Pulis has got anything left to give. If we get relegated having not even attempted to do something about it when we had the opportunity to, then that will be the biggest tragedy of all.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 0:57:58 GMT
Beg gus poyet take charge with his brand of football and passion. We should have gone for Di canio
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Post by mateybass on Apr 7, 2013 1:02:20 GMT
We should have gone for Di canio What... and give everyone another reason to hate Stoke?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 1:04:07 GMT
We should have gone for Di canio What... and give everyone another reason to hate Stoke? Why?? A footballer who is passionate about the game??
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Post by scfc5 on Apr 7, 2013 1:05:07 GMT
Francis it has to be, with Rudge and/or Peter Reid. Can't believe I am typing it. Bringing someone from the outside isn't wise now when we have GF who knows the squad inside out. Bang on the money mate. Francis knows the players inside out, he understands the dynamics of the squad and he knows who really is fit and in form and who isn't ... he's got all the information available to him that Pulis has but he isn't subject to all the politics that TP is handicapped by. If Francis is put in charge, you could see players like Pennant, Owen and Adam being given a start, not saying that that is personally the players I'd like to see starting but rather I'm making the point that Francis is probably better placed to make a call on team selection than somebody else from the 'outside' coming in. Ultimately he might not bring anything at all to the table but there is absolutely zero evidence to suggest that Pulis has got anything left to give. If we get relegated having not even attempted to do something about it when we had the opportunity to, then that will be the biggest tragedy of all. Absolutely, Paul. I just want to see us try something. The players aren't doing it and need a jolt. I don't think TP wants a relegation on his CV but equally I can't see him walking away - he's too proud. If I thought we might go to QPR and have a go, I would say leave TP alone, but he has almost become a parody of himself now with the rubbish he spouts about luck and things not falling for us. Every year a team goes into freefall - the only saving grace is us, Norwich, Sunderland and Newcastle are all daring too see how late they can leave pulling the parachute cord and still survive! I just think we have run out of ideas. Plenty isn't right - Owen doesn't even bother warming up, Adam applauds the fans, making it obvious what he thinks of the manager's selection, Shea is AWOL, Pennant is still persona non grata despite everything that is happening. It's too crazy for words. But at least Francis might, and only might, get us 1 win from somewhere by getting Adam on the field and Nzonzi just slightly interested again. All of our failings over wingers and full-backs, lack of cover etc, have all come home to roost in the last few months. TP and the whole side look spent, shell-shocked. The pressure will crank up again if Di Canio gets a result somehow at Chelsea. Both in terms of the points effect and the temptation for change here.
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Post by mateybass on Apr 7, 2013 1:06:55 GMT
What... and give everyone another reason to hate Stoke? Why?? A footballer who is passionate about the game?? Don't you watch the news?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 1:08:43 GMT
Why watch the news?? North Korea Re about kick off?? And???
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Post by Deleted on Apr 7, 2013 1:09:11 GMT
Why watch the news?? North Korea Are about kick off?? And???
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Post by mateybass on Apr 7, 2013 1:14:49 GMT
Why watch the news?? North Korea Re about kick off?? And??? Clue?
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