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Post by philm87 on Apr 5, 2013 11:56:56 GMT
Sounds like he won't be available tomorrow.
He will be a massive loss in my opinion given the lack of pace in our side and our lack of quality on the right.
Was playing quite well before his injury too.
With any two from Walters, Kightly and Shotton filling the wings I can't see us creating much so we might need this luck Pulis keeps talking about... and the 12th man too.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 5, 2013 11:58:39 GMT
We will as the other options don't even bare thinking about.
It's scary how poor our alternatives are in the wide areas.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 11:58:40 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much?
I jest of course.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 5, 2013 12:00:27 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much? I jest of course. Rob, I'd actually prefer us to play 5-3-2 even at home than shoehorn unsuitable players into 4-4-1-1 as per usual.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 5, 2013 12:02:50 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much? I jest of course. We could recall Rory from his loan spell?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 12:04:30 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much? I jest of course. Rob, I'd actually prefer us to play 5-3-2 even at home than shoehorn unsuitable players into 4-4-1-1 as per usual. Yep accommodate Adam, and play two proper strikers, which suits Crouch better.
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Post by dadofsam on Apr 5, 2013 12:04:58 GMT
(In a Dalek's voice) the system will be deployed irrespective of the humanoid units available
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 12:05:12 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much? I jest of course. We could recall Rory from his loan spell? I said to my mate after football in the week that if Rory was at the club I'd get him in the team pronto. Desperate times and all that.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 5, 2013 12:05:54 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much? I jest of course. Rob, I'd actually prefer us to play 5-3-2 even at home than shoehorn unsuitable players into 4-4-1-1 as per usual. Actually Adam would do fine in that system. We have played this formation in both games against Wigan. I'm assuming the only reason the manager abandons his 4-4-1-1 against Wigan is to match them man for man. They always seem to do well against us so it's a good tactic IMO. Can't see why it isn't worth a go more often. Ryan, Huth, G-Cam at CB Shotts and Wilson as wing-backs Central midfield 3 of Nzonzi, Whelan and Adam Jones and Jerome/Walters up top.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Apr 5, 2013 12:07:57 GMT
That's exactly what I'd do, Phil.
Not a sodding prayer it'll happen though.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 5, 2013 12:10:48 GMT
That's exactly what I'd do, Phil. Not a sodding prayer it'll happen though. In fairness given the importance of this game it would be a big risk to suddenly change formation. Best stick with what has worked in the past: Jones and Walters up top in a 4-4-1-1. Unfortunately I don't think we will even get this. Imperative we are loud tomorrow. I think we will really NEED the 12th man to win this one.
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Post by eddyclamp on Apr 5, 2013 12:16:21 GMT
Jerome has pace,Matty has done fook all for 12 months,kightley is shite.Pulis will have to accept the fact that we have no width in the team,play two up top,drop Adam in the middle behind them and go for it.
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Post by LGH87 on Apr 5, 2013 12:23:42 GMT
I hate myself for saying this, but as we know hes NOT going to alter from 4-4-1-1, i'd be half tempted to play Adam on the left side.
i know he's not exactly going to get up and down brilliantly, but at least he'd guarantee a good delivery from that side. although Villa's pace could cause more problems with a set up like this.....im just trying to think of ways we could cause them problems, because Shotton & Walters are NOT the answer.
I'd be tempted to go back to the 4-3-3 / 4-5-1 from earlier on in the season, when Kightly looked half Decent.
Bego
Shotton/Cameron Ryan Huth Wilson
Whelan N'Zonzi Adam
Walters Crouch (no a chance he will drop him) Kightly
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Post by unknown182 on Apr 5, 2013 12:25:29 GMT
When he's on the pitch you know there's a chance (if a small one) of a few decent balls being delivered into the box. I can't recall seeing Kightly, Walters or Shotton putting a decent cross in all season.
Big hoof to Crouch again Saturday fellas
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Post by onionman on Apr 5, 2013 12:26:12 GMT
We could recall Rory from his loan spell? I said to my mate after football in the week that if Rory was at the club I'd get him in the team pronto. Desperate times and all that. He'd have played every game since mid-January, for me. Are we allowed to recall him?
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Post by fca47 on Apr 5, 2013 12:36:21 GMT
Is the Pope catholic.
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Post by philm87 on Apr 5, 2013 14:18:25 GMT
Jerome has pace,Matty has done fook all for 12 months,kightley is shite.Pulis will have to accept the fact that we have no width in the team,play two up top,drop Adam in the middle behind them and go for it. Matty has done okay. He was arguably our best player against West Brom. He offers the width you are on about too. 'Dropping Adam in the middle' has already shown to completely ineffective.
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Post by stokie1995 on Apr 5, 2013 14:34:14 GMT
my team would be
Begovic
Cameron Huth Shawcross Wilson
Shea <-- other than pennant our only proper winger Adam N'zonzi Kightly
Jerome Jones
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Apr 5, 2013 14:38:04 GMT
would also have Rory back in a flash, a proper leader is required and his throws might at least given Tony's Tactic half a chance.
Ie, create an oppurtunity for something to drop.
The fatc is that Pulis is tactically lost without Rory's throw.
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Post by thestatusquo on Apr 5, 2013 14:43:28 GMT
Who is Miss Matty ??
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 5, 2013 14:44:01 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much? I jest of course. Other teams play without wingers , I would look at getting Adam into the middle and try to push the fullbacks forward
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Apr 5, 2013 14:47:02 GMT
I've missed Matty ever since his injury before the FA Cup Final. He's never really been as big a threat since. Obviously he'd have been desperate to get back to fitness for the big day, but maybe he tried too hard too soon. He's been one of the great successes of the Premier years, but sadly he seems a bit past his best, and relying on him to get back to his full form of 2 or 3 years ago maybe one of the team's current problems.
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Post by onionman on Apr 5, 2013 14:59:04 GMT
I've missed Matty ever since his injury before the FA Cup Final. He's never really been as big a threat since. Obviously he'd have been desperate to get back to fitness for the big day, but maybe he tried too hard too soon. He's been one of the great successes of the Premier years, but sadly he seems a bit past his best, and relying on him to get back to his full form of 2 or 3 years ago maybe one of the team's current problems. Definitely need to replace him with someone younger and quicker. Who knows, if he drops down the pecking order he may decide to reinvent himself as a more cunning left midfielder to win back his place.
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Post by johnsmithsupper on Apr 5, 2013 16:41:14 GMT
Maybe with no wingers we could look at finding a way of playing that doesn't rely on wing play so much? I jest of course. Rob, I'd actually prefer us to play 5-3-2 even at home than shoehorn unsuitable players into 4-4-1-1 as per usual. Absolutely 100% correct
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Post by harryburrows on Apr 5, 2013 18:14:17 GMT
If Matty doesn't play jerome will find himself out there
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Post by slother on Apr 5, 2013 18:26:01 GMT
We've missed Matty for 2 or 3 years.
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Post by stokiesteve on Apr 5, 2013 18:35:13 GMT
Matty on form will be missed.
Running Matty won't be.
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