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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 23:18:37 GMT
The reason Ric has been one of our better players in the last 30 years,is because most of the last 30 years we have not been very good.If we had been in the top flight for the last 30 years we would not have signed Ric.Remember no top flight team has ever signed him ot tried to sign him.Very good championship player, average Prem player,now a championship player in a poor side goals scored ? Who gives a fuck? He was brilliant for us, scored some brilliant goals and we relied massively on him for years. He was a joy to watch and we were shit without him. If Man Utd had won the European Cup every year for the last 30 years they wouldn't think Giggs was anything special. It's a bollocks argument. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 23:19:11 GMT
Peter Thorne wasn't a patch on Sheron, never mind Ric. Are you on drugs? |
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Post by philm87 on Mar 28, 2013 23:21:54 GMT
The reason Ric has been one of our better players in the last 30 years,is because most of the last 30 years we have not been very good.If we had been in the top flight for the last 30 years we would not have signed Ric.Remember no top flight team has ever signed him ot tried to sign him.Very good championship player, average Prem player,now a championship player in a poor side goals scored ? Had we put him on the transfer list at any point in the first two and half years in the PL then I can moreorless guarantee several other clubs would have been very interested so that's irrelevant. Sunderland did also show an interest too. What held him back earlier in his career was his dodgy knee. Was never a prolific or consistent goalscorer but then many of the goals he did score were out of nothing. These were goals that very few other players were capable of. And he did it in the Premier League. Just as important as his goals were the amount of corners, freekicks, throw-ons he won in those first two seasons. Quite often he won them out of nothing. So many of our goals in those first two seasons relied on Ric. 12 goals in his first season in the Prem - factor in injuries and suspensions. How many did Peter Crouch score last season? 14? Only 8 in the second season but then that was still enough for him to be our joint top scorer despite injury problems. |
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Post by Davef on Mar 28, 2013 23:24:26 GMT
Peter Thorne wasn't a patch on Sheron, never mind Ric. Are you on drugs? He isn't. You may well be though. |
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Mar 28, 2013 23:24:52 GMT
Why is it a load of rubbish exactly? From the early 1980s name a player who has made a bigger impact on this club at this level than Ricardo Fuller. I loved Mark Stein to bits and Mark Chamberlain for an all to brief period was magicial, but for me mjb2 is right, Ricardo is easily the best player of the last 30 years. Peter Thorne? Loved Thorne, one of my favourite ever players... but comparing him to Fuller? Silly... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 28, 2013 23:36:02 GMT
Yes , its from Wiki but...Mmmn not sure of some of the stats in fairness )
Fuller
At Stoke, he has become an influential member of the first team and his goals helped the "Potters" gain promotion to the Premier League in 2008. He was a key figure in Stoke's first season in the Premier League becoming top goalscorer but gained a bad reputation after he slapped his own captain, Andy Griffin in the face in December 2008. He remained a regular in Tony Pulis' squad and helped Stoke reach the 2011 FA Cup Final but Fuller missed out on the final due to injury. After he recovered from his injury he was only give a bit-part role and he left the club in June 2012 after his contract expired. He scored 50 goals for Stoke in 208 appearances.
Thorne
Although he suffered relegation in his first season with Stoke, the 1997–98 season, Thorne became something of a cult hero at the club—thanks largely to his goal-scoring exploits—and gained a reputation as a dangerous box-player. He enjoyed a particularly fruitful scoring run in the second half of the 1999–2000 season, most notably including a hat-trick in the 3–3 draw away at Bristol Rovers, four goals in the 5–1 home win over Chesterfield and the winning goal in the Associate Members Cup Final, that saw Stoke beat Bristol City. Thorne continued his goal scoring run in the 2000–01 season scoring 16 goals as Stoke made the play-offs for the second season running only to lose to Walsall. He started the 2001–02 season in fine form scoring 4 goals in 5 games before he joined Cardiff City along with Graham Kavanagh.
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Post by farmer on Mar 28, 2013 23:43:25 GMT
I am not saying Ric did not do a good job for us,but we as fans worshiped him as a great player when he was not, he was over a period 3-4 years the best player we had,but that was not very hard compeared with the other player of the time.I think he left at the right time so people could remember him at his best,every player gets old.
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Post by potterpaul on Mar 28, 2013 23:55:46 GMT
He certainly made Pulisball work on a consistent basis rather than the flashes of good Pulisball we see nowadays. Can't help but think that Tony became a successful prem manager on the back of Rick alone.
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Post by farmer on Mar 29, 2013 0:08:08 GMT
If Ric was the reason for the manager been successful why didn't he play him more often and why did he let him go.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2013 0:37:34 GMT
Yes , its from Wiki but...Mmmn not sure of some of the stats in fairness ) Fuller At Stoke, he has become an influential member of the first team and his goals helped the "Potters" gain promotion to the Premier League in 2008. He was a key figure in Stoke's first season in the Premier League becoming top goalscorer but gained a bad reputation after he slapped his own captain, Andy Griffin in the face in December 2008. He remained a regular in Tony Pulis' squad and helped Stoke reach the 2011 FA Cup Final but Fuller missed out on the final due to injury. After he recovered from his injury he was only give a bit-part role and he left the club in June 2012 after his contract expired. He scored 50 goals for Stoke in 208 appearances. Thorne Although he suffered relegation in his first season with Stoke, the 1997–98 season, Thorne became something of a cult hero at the club—thanks largely to his goal-scoring exploits—and gained a reputation as a dangerous box-player. He enjoyed a particularly fruitful scoring run in the second half of the 1999–2000 season, most notably including a hat-trick in the 3–3 draw away at Bristol Rovers, four goals in the 5–1 home win over Chesterfield and the winning goal in the Associate Members Cup Final, that saw Stoke beat Bristol City. Thorne continued his goal scoring run in the 2000–01 season scoring 16 goals as Stoke made the play-offs for the second season running only to lose to Walsall. He started the 2001–02 season in fine form scoring 4 goals in 5 games before he joined Cardiff City along with Graham Kavanagh. What's your point? A player who was an excellent poacher in league one was a better and more important player than one who was instrumental in helping the team back to the top tier for the first time in nearly a quarter of a century and scored some of the best Stoke goals in living memory? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 29, 2013 0:39:25 GMT
If Ric was the reason for the manager been successful why didn't he play him more often and why did he let him go. He was a regular for the first four seasons and still hugely important for much of his fifth. In the seasons he barely featured we've struggled for goals massively. |
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Post by mjb2 on Mar 29, 2013 18:46:31 GMT
Thorne was a decent finisher and nothing more! I watched many games where he made runs away from the ball to avoid responsibility. Ric was a genius who rarely shirked the task. Maybe he should have scored more often but who else could pick up the ball in impossible situations and win a free kick or corner which led to goals? At times the excitement he generated was heart-stopping and he made every match, home or away, worth the trip. Over the last 30 years, only Hoekstra, on odd occasions can compare. Otherwise, you have to go back to Terry Conroy in his prime. TP owes Mr Fuller a huge debt.
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Post by werrington on Mar 29, 2013 18:52:51 GMT
A player who will be spoken of in the same breath as Hudson and Greenhoff.....i know because i witnessed them all
Nuff said
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Post by SCFC92 on Mar 29, 2013 18:55:17 GMT
I'd say he is one of my first Stoke City heroes seeing as I'm 20...
What a player, miss him so much!
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Post by maninasuitcase on Mar 29, 2013 19:14:52 GMT
Peter Thorne wasn't a patch on Sheron, never mind Ric. Get a life RVD, Thorne was a fucking god when he was with us. We haven't come close to finding a striker who netted as much as he did, and yes I know it was in a lower league, but he still has to put it in the onion bag, which he did on a regular basis. I never really saw much of Sheron apart from a few games at the Vic so can't comment on his overall greatness. Fuller also deserves the god accolade for his time at Stoke, as some of his goals and skills were magic. That fourth one against the dingles at the custard bowl, in which he ran half the pitch and buried it in the net was genius, and one of the best mentals ever. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Mar 29, 2013 19:18:28 GMT
Peter Thorne wasn't a patch on Sheron, never mind Ric. Get a life RVD, Thorne was a fucking god when he was with us. We haven't come close to finding a striker who netted as much as he did, and yes I know it was in a lower league, but he still has to put it in the onion bag, which he did on a regular basis. I never really saw much of Sheron apart from a few games at the Vic so can't comment on his overall greatness. Fuller also deserves the god accolade for his time at Stoke, as some of his goals and skills were magic. That fourth one against the dingles at the custard bowl, in which he ran half the pitch and buried it in the net was genius, and one of the best mentals ever. I thought the world of Thorney, he was very decent for us and scored a shed load of goals but I don't even think he's in the same postcode as Ric. |
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Post by maninasuitcase on Mar 29, 2013 19:29:42 GMT
Ric vs the dingles
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Post by stokie25 on Mar 29, 2013 19:40:21 GMT
Ric is only happy when he's dancing around 2 frantic defenders and it was a joy to watch. God i miss the bloke #10 One love  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 30, 2013 11:01:46 GMT
Peter Thorne wasn't a patch on Sheron, never mind Ric. Get a life RVD, Thorne was a fucking god when he was with us. We haven't come close to finding a striker who netted as much as he did, and yes I know it was in a lower league, but he still has to put it in the onion bag, which he did on a regular basis. I never really saw much of Sheron apart from a few games at the Vic so can't comment on his overall greatness. Fuller also deserves the god accolade for his time at Stoke, as some of his goals and skills were magic. That fourth one against the dingles at the custard bowl, in which he ran half the pitch and buried it in the net was genius, and one of the best mentals ever. So you tell me to get a life and then admit you have no frame of comparison for one player and agree with me on the other. Well played, Confuscius. |
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