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Post by 1863scfc1863 on Mar 14, 2013 19:36:41 GMT
1: Would you renew if TP kept us up then left.
2: Would you renew if we got relegated and TP left?
Not having a go at anyone just curious.
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Post by torijames01 on Mar 14, 2013 19:41:13 GMT
1 yes 2 yes
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Post by goonyoustoke on Mar 14, 2013 19:44:50 GMT
Yes to both.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Mar 14, 2013 19:45:16 GMT
A double yes.
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Post by stokie25 on Mar 14, 2013 19:46:37 GMT
The moment TP is no longer on the payroll is the day we'll renew at whatever cost. It breaks my heart, We support the club but I'm denying my family a decent holiday every year to fund £1000 of ST's. My kids loved it once, one of them the Championship and away games....she got bored around 2010 and little un thinks it's a punishment now. Daren't tell her it's a home game until 10 minutes before we leave the house! 2 years ago, at the age of 4 she couldn't even spell but could tell you every single players' name and number on sight. You lose the next generation of support.....you lose the supporters
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Mar 14, 2013 19:47:30 GMT
Would you be happy if Pulis kept us up then resigned and we ended up with Steve Keane/Owen Coyle in charge? Would you renew if we were relegated and we ended up with Steve Keane/Owen Coyle in charge? BTW I have renewed unconditionally as I always have. Gouranga.  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 19:54:23 GMT
Without doubt same as most 'supporters' would.
Ask the guy who was asking if he would get a refund if we went down on here the other day the same question!!
Like it or not along with all the money the premier league brings sadly the glory hunters come with it.. Hence the OTT threads on here after we lose a game.
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Post by rockhead163 on Mar 14, 2013 19:54:32 GMT
The moment TP is no longer on the payroll is the day we'll renew at whatever cost. It breaks my heart, We support the club but I'm denying my family a decent holiday every year to fund £1000 of ST's. My kids loved it once, one of them the Championship and away games....she got bored around 2010 and little un thinks it's a punishment now. Daren't tell her it's a home game until 10 minutes before we leave the house! 2 years ago, at the age of 4 she couldn't even spell but could tell you every single players' name and number on sight. You lose the next generation of support.....you lose the supporters Exactly the situation we are in. How can we enjoy the match when the kids don't want to go anymore. |
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 14, 2013 20:07:23 GMT
Makes no odds if pulis stays or goes I will be renewing tomorrow. For me the footie is more than just a game it is the whole day. I enjoy the drink before the game and even if I drive and dunna have a beer I just enjoy being at the game. Just my thoughts on it but everyone is different and have different circumstances. While I can afford it and can get there I will always renew.
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Post by stokie25 on Mar 14, 2013 20:16:20 GMT
Makes no odds if pulis stays or goes I will be renewing tomorrow. For me the footie is more than just a game it is the whole day. I enjoy the drink before the game and even if I drive and dunna have a beer I just enjoy being at the game. Just my thoughts on it but everyone is different and have different circumstances. While I can afford it and can get there I will always renew. We were in the same predicament last year though, SS. The kids were a bit unsure but as Stoke fans we decided to give it another bash and see if the 'evolution' showed itself. It didn't, the kids are bored shitless, restless most of the game and spoils a decent weekend for the most part. For that reason we're out, i'm afraid. Like i said, it breaks my heart, i feel like i'm deserting on my SCFC family but my love for the club can't be dispersed on my kids and it's boring for me, they must really hate it now.....that saddens me more than the fact that i won't be there next season. My Dad took me, i hoped i'd be taking my kids too and i did for a good while, including the baby (now almost 7 and big un is 17). Hearing them say they're bored makes me want to twat Pulis straight in the face! |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 20:20:37 GMT
I don't care what league we play in I never have.
The Premier League is vastly overrated.
As long as I don't have to watch another season of Tony's idea of football then I'm all good.
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Post by trickydicky73 on Mar 14, 2013 20:20:55 GMT
Without doubt same as most 'supporters' would. Ask the guy who was asking if he would get a refund if we went down on here the other day the same question!! Like it or not along with all the money the premier league brings sadly the glory hunters come with it.. Hence the OTT threads on here after we lose a game. It's not about winning or losing the game; it's the WAY we win or lose it! |
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Post by MrMagic on Mar 14, 2013 20:24:18 GMT
Without doubt same as most 'supporters' would. Ask the guy who was asking if he would get a refund if we went down on here the other day the same question!! Like it or not along with all the money the premier league brings sadly the glory hunters come with it.. Hence the OTT threads on here after we lose a game. Don't know why I'm getting drawn on this, but your response is very in line with the pulis view of the world! It's not about the results. How many times do people have to say it before the penny drops? |
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Post by Kingswaystokie on Mar 14, 2013 20:29:53 GMT
I was there around 2.15pm to renew, couldn't believe how quiet it was. Only 1 other bloke there renewing, ticket office staff looked bored to death. Must admit I expected an awful lot more people there.  |
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Post by thehoof on Mar 14, 2013 20:32:20 GMT
Yes to both.I want the football to help brighten up the rest of the week- under TP it does exactly the opposite.He was good, he is not anymore.
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Post by borat on Mar 14, 2013 20:33:05 GMT
Yes to both I want Pulis gone NOW.
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Post by Fred Astaire on Mar 14, 2013 20:41:54 GMT
Yes to both!
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Post by Macc on Mar 14, 2013 20:47:31 GMT
It's not about winning or losing the game; it's the WAY we win or lose it! If you mean that you can accept defeats if we have set up to try to win games then I totally agree. However, taking that to the extreme would be akin to Baggies fans who we always laughed at when they said they would rather be relegated than play like us. There does come a time when you need to just get a result. That doesn't excuse what we've mainly seen over the last 18 months though Edit: returning to the OP, Yes to both (and already have) |
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Post by foster on Mar 14, 2013 20:52:51 GMT
If we go down wouldn't the price of a season ticket be reduced?
Logically, wouldn't it be best wait and see what happens before renewing?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 22:19:30 GMT
Without doubt same as most 'supporters' would. Ask the guy who was asking if he would get a refund if we went down on here the other day the same question!! Like it or not along with all the money the premier league brings sadly the glory hunters come with it.. Hence the OTT threads on here after we lose a game. Don't know why I'm getting drawn on this, but your response is very in line with the pulis view of the world! It's not about the results. How many times do people have to say it before the penny drops? Oh really nobody mentioned it! Its not about the results its about how we play. No its not how we play its how we set up to play. Its not how we set up to play its the money. I just want us to be like Swansea Spurt spurt.. Its getting a little BOOOORRIINNGG |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 14, 2013 22:20:53 GMT
If we go down wouldn't the price of a season ticket be reduced? Logically, wouldn't it be best wait and see what happens before renewing? Well its been the same price since we came up so no. |
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Post by swampySCFC on Mar 14, 2013 22:21:40 GMT
Q3 If we got to the cup final would you be moaning about not getting a ticket when you've supported the Potters for 30 years ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by Stafford-Stokie on Mar 14, 2013 22:30:27 GMT
Makes no odds if pulis stays or goes I will be renewing tomorrow. For me the footie is more than just a game it is the whole day. I enjoy the drink before the game and even if I drive and dunna have a beer I just enjoy being at the game. Just my thoughts on it but everyone is different and have different circumstances. While I can afford it and can get there I will always renew. We were in the same predicament last year though, SS. The kids were a bit unsure but as Stoke fans we decided to give it another bash and see if the 'evolution' showed itself. It didn't, the kids are bored shitless, restless most of the game and spoils a decent weekend for the most part. For that reason we're out, i'm afraid. Like i said, it breaks my heart, i feel like i'm deserting on my SCFC family but my love for the club can't be dispersed on my kids and it's boring for me, they must really hate it now.....that saddens me more than the fact that i won't be there next season. My Dad took me, i hoped i'd be taking my kids too and i did for a good while, including the baby (now almost 7 and big un is 17). Hearing them say they're bored makes me want to twat Pulis straight in the face! I wasn't knocking you or anyone else who doesn't renew I was just stating my situation. It is a lot of cash if you feel your not getting value for it. |
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Post by Vestan Pance on Mar 15, 2013 10:51:26 GMT
Perfectly reasonable, if slightly loaded questions.
I am in a position where the financial aspect isn't that heavy a burden, though I absolutely empathise with those who have a couple of kids. If it breaks down to ST's or the family holiday, it's a fairly easy decision to make.
I drive up from the West Midlands (on my own now), watch the game (on my own) and drive back, frequently in a foul mood. Time was I would be at the Gardners no later than 1, no I park on the back streets about twenty to 3. I sit there, apathetic to a quality i football I can neither condone nor rationalise then I go home.
I don't boo, I'm 36 and cannot really see the point. What I can choose to do however is spend my Saturdays elsewhere, somewhere that doesn't piss me off or leave me in a bad mood for the rest of the weekend. Going to Stoke these days is a bit like going to the Merry Hill Centre for me; I don't enjoy it when I am there,but generally I am allowed a pint afterwards as a treat.
I don't rerally care what league we are in, never have. I would however really like to see ateam that likes to attack and score goals and begin a game of football with the intention of winning it. I cannot account the time anymore to doing something from which I derive no pleasure whatsoever.
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Post by foster on Mar 15, 2013 10:57:02 GMT
If we go down wouldn't the price of a season ticket be reduced? Logically, wouldn't it be best wait and see what happens before renewing? Well its been the same price since we came up so no. You seem very sure considering you have no idea. Maybe they'll want to keep attendances high rather than them dropping back to 12-14K, in which case I expect the price would have to drop a bit. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 10:58:07 GMT
The moment TP is no longer on the payroll is the day we'll renew at whatever cost. It breaks my heart, We support the club but I'm denying my family a decent holiday every year to fund £1000 of ST's. My kids loved it once, one of them the Championship and away games....she got bored around 2010 and little un thinks it's a punishment now. Daren't tell her it's a home game until 10 minutes before we leave the house! 2 years ago, at the age of 4 she couldn't even spell but could tell you every single players' name and number on sight. You lose the next generation of support.....you lose the supporters now i want Pulis to go in the summer as well but i presume you are aware that if Pulis does go then it's just as possible that the next manager will be shit as it is that he'll be great aren't you? in other words, simply refusing to go because Pulis is there isn't really the right way to be teaching kids about football is it? basically only go to support your side if you like the manager then instantly renew when he's gone even though the football may continue to be just as shit??? you're basically indoctrinating being fickle as hell into them at an early age....fair enough you say they're bored but have you not thought that that may be because of their age (one of them you mention by the sound of it is only 6) rather than due to an expert knowledge of football and how it should be played? yes, we all WANT our kids to be passionate Stokies who see the Brit as some religious experience but like it or not, little kids WILL get bored sometimes regardless of the quality of play...personally i find it veyr hard to believe that a 6 year olds boredom is due to the standard of play and think it far more likely becasue of their desire to be doing things that their peers are doing on a Saturday afternoon...all in all, daft reasons not to renew IMO and forcing your fickleness on those who are still to grow and formulate educated opinions of their own. fair enough i can see you not wanting to spend money on them going if they are bored (regardless of the reasons, why pay for something they don't want to do) but to basically say that 6 year old kids don't want to support Stoke because of the manager is IMO absolutely ridiculous! YOU may hold that view fair enough but blaming your kids?????? i'd be stunned if you showed me any 6 year old that would know enough about the game to be holding points of view like that |
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Post by foster on Mar 15, 2013 11:06:34 GMT
The moment TP is no longer on the payroll is the day we'll renew at whatever cost. It breaks my heart, We support the club but I'm denying my family a decent holiday every year to fund £1000 of ST's. My kids loved it once, one of them the Championship and away games....she got bored around 2010 and little un thinks it's a punishment now. Daren't tell her it's a home game until 10 minutes before we leave the house! 2 years ago, at the age of 4 she couldn't even spell but could tell you every single players' name and number on sight. You lose the next generation of support.....you lose the supporters now i want Pulis to go in the summer as well but i presume you are aware that if Pulis does go then it's just as possible that the next manager will be shit as it is that he'll be great aren't you? in other words, simply refusing to go because Pulis is there isn't really the right way to be teaching kids about football is it? basically only go to support your side if you like the manager then instantly renew when he's gone even though the football may continue to be just as shit??? you're basically indoctrinating being fickle as hell into them at an early age....fair enough you say they're bored but have you not thought that that may be because of their age (one of them you mention by the sound of it is only 6) rather than due to an expert knowledge of football and how it should be played? yes, we all WANT our kids to be passionate Stokies who see the Brit as some religious experience but like it or not, little kids WILL get bored sometimes regardless of the quality of play...personally i find it veyr hard to believe that a 6 year olds boredom is due to the standard of play and think it far more likely becasue of their desire to be doing things that their peers are doing on a Saturday afternoon...all in all, daft reasons not to renew IMO and forcing your fickleness on those who are still to grow and formulate educated opinions of their own Bloody hell mate, do you want to be any more patronising? ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2013 11:11:01 GMT
now i want Pulis to go in the summer as well but i presume you are aware that if Pulis does go then it's just as possible that the next manager will be shit as it is that he'll be great aren't you? in other words, simply refusing to go because Pulis is there isn't really the right way to be teaching kids about football is it? basically only go to support your side if you like the manager then instantly renew when he's gone even though the football may continue to be just as shit??? you're basically indoctrinating being fickle as hell into them at an early age....fair enough you say they're bored but have you not thought that that may be because of their age (one of them you mention by the sound of it is only 6) rather than due to an expert knowledge of football and how it should be played? yes, we all WANT our kids to be passionate Stokies who see the Brit as some religious experience but like it or not, little kids WILL get bored sometimes regardless of the quality of play...personally i find it veyr hard to believe that a 6 year olds boredom is due to the standard of play and think it far more likely becasue of their desire to be doing things that their peers are doing on a Saturday afternoon...all in all, daft reasons not to renew IMO and forcing your fickleness on those who are still to grow and formulate educated opinions of their own Bloody hell mate, do you want to be any more patronising? ;D not patronising at all...simply saying if the poster doesn't want to go for whatever reasons then fair enough but to blame the kids and their boredom??????? how many 6 year olds do you know that can formulate opinions on Stoke City and how football should be played and therefore who's at fault if it isn't being played? that's the point i'm making....a 6 year old wouldn't know any of it unless they've been taught it and i genuinely don't see that teaching a kid that it's ok to not follow your team because of who the manager is is a good thing do you? that's doing far more damage to "The future generation of supporters" than anything Pulis is simply because a 6 year old isn't going to have a bloody clue why what Pulis is doing is so wrong not patronising in the slightest, simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the post considering they're apparently so worried about the future generations of supporters...i mean we've stooped to a hell of a level if we're now blaming Pulis for a 6 year olds boredom FFS!!!! my daughter loves Stoke but even she gets bored at games, not because of the football on offer but because she gets bored sitting down in one place for 90 minutes when there are no other kids around or things to play with, i wouldn't be daft enough to think "Oh it must be because she has in depth knowledge of the game and is just frustrated at the formation TP is playing and the square pegs in round holes"...far more to do with the fact that she's 8 years old! |
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Post by markscfc72 on Mar 15, 2013 11:20:16 GMT
just havnt got around to it yet, will renew, will always renew  |
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Post by foster on Mar 15, 2013 11:22:02 GMT
Bloody hell mate, do you want to be any more patronising? ;D not patronising at all...simply saying if the poster doesn't want to go for whatever reasons then fair enough but to blame the kids and their boredom??????? how many 6 year olds do you know that can formulate opinions on Stoke City and how football should be played and therefore who's at fault if it isn't being played? that's the point i'm making....a 6 year old wouldn't know any of it unless they've been taught it and i genuinely don't see that teaching a kid that it's ok to not follow your team because of who the manager is is a good thing do you? that's doing far more damage to "The future generation of supporters" than anything Pulis is simply because a 6 year old isn't going to have a bloody clue why what Pulis is doing is so wrong not patronising in the slightest, simply pointing out the hypocrisy of the post considering they're apparently so worried about the future generations of supporters...i mean we've stooped to a hell of a level if we're now blaming Pulis for a 6 year olds boredom FFS!!!! my daughter loves Stoke but even she gets bored at games, not because of the football on offer but because she gets bored sitting down in one place for 90 minutes when there are no other kids around or things to play with, i wouldn't be daft enough to think "Oh it must be because she has in depth knowledge of the game and is just frustrated at the formation TP is playing and the square pegs in round holes"...far more to do with the fact that she's 8 years old! Don't patronise me Mick!! |
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