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Post by zigazaga on Feb 2, 2013 17:55:09 GMT
Can someone please explain this to me?
If we were going to get rid surely to god we should have got a replacement in first. We just let him go leaving us with just a few hours to get a replacement. Whats that all about?
This stinks of unprofessionalism. How does Pulis get away with this? Its down right criminal.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 2, 2013 17:56:22 GMT
I think the management team thought they had a replacement in the bag but for whatever reason it didn't happen.
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 2, 2013 17:56:47 GMT
That was bizarre.
We've let him go and then moan about being short.
The games afoot.
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Post by Silkystoke on Feb 2, 2013 17:56:48 GMT
something went on inside, we will never know about it...!!! Only when he is sacked we will find out..
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Post by lostinafrenchbar on Feb 2, 2013 18:16:40 GMT
Probably because that's what Upson wanted to do? He's probably down the Lanes right now with a few E's and a couple of trannies celebrating.
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Post by buiskatthebrit on Feb 2, 2013 18:17:22 GMT
Maybe he didn't work aard enough for Tone's liking. Or he upset someone high up. Or was a moaner cos he wasn't making the team. Wrong to let him go though when we're short of defenders.
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Post by Ayupshag on Feb 2, 2013 18:19:09 GMT
Did you see him against Swindon?
That's the reason we let him go.
Not good enough
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Post by rambo61 on Feb 2, 2013 18:21:42 GMT
Did you see him against Swindon? That's the reason we let him go. Not good enough He was wank....end of!!!!!  Living on a reputation from 5 years ago. |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 2, 2013 18:24:52 GMT
Did you see him against Swindon? That's the reason we let him go. Not good enough I'm not fussed either but don't then come out and bemoan his departure like Tone has done. |
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Post by Ayupshag on Feb 2, 2013 18:26:59 GMT
Did you see him against Swindon? That's the reason we let him go. Not good enough I'm not fussed either but don't then come out and bemoan his departure like Tone has done. I haven't. I'm quite glad he's gone. Another toss pot off our wage bill |
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Post by citynickscfc on Feb 2, 2013 18:27:27 GMT
If he has done this it is baffling, suggests he did not decide to let him go, or tried to push the club into making a signing (bullying those above him?)
strange
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 2, 2013 18:28:47 GMT
I'm not fussed either but don't then come out and bemoan his departure like Tone has done. I haven't. I'm quite glad he's gone. Another toss pot off our wage bill I didn't say you had, I was referring to Tone bemoaning how we're short in numbers despite he himself sanctioning Upson's departure. |
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Post by zigazaga on Feb 2, 2013 18:46:09 GMT
I know he is not the best centre half and he that was yet another Pulis starstruck signing but to let him go before we got a replacement in is bizarre.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Feb 2, 2013 18:49:26 GMT
The management team were panicking and put all their faith in us loaning either scott dann or curtis davies. Upson went and neither of them came off.
Left us one down because of crap planning.
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Post by basingstokie on Feb 2, 2013 19:04:14 GMT
Upson might not have been great, but you don't release your only back up centre back without a replacement in unless you are a fucking idiot.
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Post by Ayupshag on Feb 2, 2013 19:06:31 GMT
Upson might not have been great, but you don't release your only back up centre back without a replacement in unless you are a fucking idiot.[/quote Ding ding ding jackpot! |
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Post by zigazaga on Feb 2, 2013 19:06:52 GMT
The management team were panicking and put all their faith in us loaning either scott dann or curtis davies. Upson went and neither of them came off. Left us one down because of crap planning. Exactly crap management in its extreme. We should have got either of those two in BEFORE we let Upson go. Sometimes I think Stoke is run by well trained chimpanzees. If they worked in another industry they would all be sacked within a week. |
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Post by Fred Astaire on Feb 2, 2013 19:29:47 GMT
The management team were panicking and put all their faith in us loaning either scott dann or curtis davies. Upson went and neither of them came off. Left us one down because of crap planning. Exactly crap management in its extreme. We should have got either of those two in BEFORE we let Upson go. Sometimes I think Stoke is run by well trained chimpanzees. If they worked in another industry they would all be sacked within a week. EXACTLY! We are the financially stable Premier League team that should not need to ship players out and should therefore be in a position to dictate deals. Oh sorry i forgot, this is Stoke! |
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Post by zigazaga on Feb 2, 2013 19:50:27 GMT
Maybe it was another decision based on Pulis' stubborness where he instantly burns bridges with players who dont agree with him i.e Pennant,Beattie, and dog gate.
This is the only explanation I can think of.
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Post by march4 on Feb 2, 2013 19:53:18 GMT
I suspect this is the reason for TP's unhappiness.
He will have agreed for someone to come in before allowing Upson out and something went wrong with the negotiating team.
I wonder if someone will be leaving SCFC's admin team in the near future.
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 2, 2013 19:56:45 GMT
I suspect this is the reason for TP's unhappiness. He will have agreed for someone to come in before allowing Upson out and something went wrong with the negotiating team. I wonder if someone will be leaving SCFC's admin team in the near future. Doubt it. It's only just been restructured, hasn't it? Scholes seems to be just as much a Coates man as Pulis, and Cartwright's only been in post for a matter of weeks. Surprising that TP doesn't seem to have sufficient pull to force a deal through by going direct to Coates to green-light something. Maybe time for him to worry? |
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Post by Davef on Feb 2, 2013 19:58:07 GMT
Oh come on March, you're just being silly now.
Until a replacement is 100% signed, sealed and delivered, it's complete and utter madness to allow any player to leave your club. It was TP's decision to allow Upson to leave before a replacement had been confirmed and if it wasn't he's guilty of a dereliction of his duties.
It really is never his fault is it?
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 2, 2013 19:58:27 GMT
I suspect this is the reason for TP's unhappiness. He will have agreed for someone to come in before allowing Upson out and something went wrong with the negotiating team. I wonder if someone will be leaving SCFC's admin team in the near future. Doubt it. It's only just been restructured, hasn't it? Scholes seems to be just as much a Coates man as Pulis, and Cartwright's only been in post for a matter of weeks. Surprising that TP doesn't seem to have sufficient pull to force a deal through by going direct to Coates to green-light something. Maybe time for him to worry? Yep, it runs far deeper than that. It was a defiant line taken but done in a fairly subtle (for Tone) way in my opinion. |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 2, 2013 21:51:59 GMT
Upson was a big earner. Upson was crap. Upson barely ever played. When he did play, he was complete and utter shit. Upson couldn't be trusted even to play in an FA Cup match against lower league opposition fielding a near reserve team. Upson wasn't needed.
TP let him go and then uses the lack of replacement as a stick with which to beat the new backroom scouting/transfer team that has been foisted upon him.
It is hardly rocket science is it?
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Post by poethebald on Feb 3, 2013 9:26:29 GMT
Nothing to do with Pulis....if you listen properly to the radio Stoke interview it is painfully obvious that he did not sanction Upson out with no one to come in.For gods sake nobody is that inept,why would anyone deliberately weaken their squad. It would appear that the order has come from on high to cut the wage bill and reduce spending.A dangerous game to play considering the amount of income that is at stake this season!
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Post by luke45 on Feb 3, 2013 9:45:47 GMT
I really wouldn't be surprised if we have a 24 hour recall clause on the Upson deal, if that is the case is it really such a big problem? It will give him some much needed game and mean his is a lot sharper should we need to recall him and use him.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 3, 2013 10:53:45 GMT
Thank god Crouch stayed because the same would have happened to him too
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Post by FullerMagic on Feb 3, 2013 10:58:17 GMT
I really wouldn't be surprised if we have a 24 hour recall clause on the Upson deal, if that is the case is it really such a big problem? It will give him some much needed game and mean his is a lot sharper should we need to recall him and use him. He's not in the 25, is he? So it's impossible for him to play for us again www.stokecityfc.com/news/article/pulis-confirms-25-man-squad-633888.aspx |
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Post by roylandstoke on Feb 3, 2013 11:09:32 GMT
I imagine our defensive displays in Upson's appearances this season played had something to do with it.
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Post by ColonelMustard on Feb 3, 2013 11:13:02 GMT
Oh come on March, you're just being silly now. Until a replacement is 100% signed, sealed and delivered, it's complete and utter madness to allow any player to leave your club. It was TP's decision to allow Upson to leave before a replacement had been confirmed and if it wasn't he's guilty of a dereliction of his duties. It really is never his fault is it? or it's always his fault? - on another thread there are well repected posters (jamo, davj, bayern, paul and so on) creating a very involved argument that Pulis was so shut out of deadline day responsibilities that he went off to London in a huff |
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