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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2012 8:07:17 GMT
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 23, 2012 8:54:50 GMT
I clicked on this to priase TP, but i guess i can debate that instead. Dawkins isn't a phillsoper he's a biologist and more importantly a fraud. The God delusion is the worst book ive ever read. how you can compare god to a flying freakin teapot is beyond me. And if you think the world could function anywhere near aswell as it does without a disigner (God) then your insane. and ive read the blind watchmaker aswell and that number 2. in my list of complete wastes of time
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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2012 8:58:43 GMT
You're right, Dawkins certainly isn't a 'phillsoper'.
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 23, 2012 9:01:39 GMT
so instead of picking on the main body of post you pick on a spelling mistake. Nice one :/
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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2012 9:03:09 GMT
Do you want to sit out the next couple of plays, maybe stop typing for a bit? ;D
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 23, 2012 9:05:47 GMT
Plays? what are on about
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Post by jonnyd on Dec 23, 2012 9:06:53 GMT
so instead of picking on the main body of post you pick on a spelling mistake. Nice one :/ i have noticed the same, i think he will make a good English teacher when he grows up  |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 23, 2012 9:09:06 GMT
so instead of picking on the main body of post you pick on a spelling mistake. Nice one :/ i have noticed the same, i think he will make a good English teacher when he grows up It's meant to be a capital I ;D |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2012 9:22:02 GMT
so instead of picking on the main body of post you pick on a spelling mistake. Nice one :/ i have noticed the same, i think he will make a good English teacher when he grows up Excuse me, it's my job to be patronising on this thread ;D |
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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2012 9:23:44 GMT
It's an American Football analogy, I actually nicked it from Anchorman |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2012 9:35:40 GMT
I clicked on this to priase TP, but i guess i can debate that instead. Dawkins isn't a phillsoper he's a biologist and more importantly a fraud. The God delusion is the worst book ive ever read. how you can compare god to a flying freakin teapot is beyond me. And if you think the world could function anywhere near aswell as it does without a disigner (God) then your insane. and ive read the blind watchmaker aswell and that number 2. in my list of complete wastes of time Dawkins a fraud! My guess is that you didn't understand them and came from a religious believer's standpoint so weren't going to approach them with anything like an open mind in the first place. They both make perfect biological, societal and evolutionary sense if you understand those things just a little to start with. Of course, if you don't want it to make sense, then it won't for you. |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 23, 2012 9:45:48 GMT
right ive got a good debate on. good stuff. just answer me this how did it all start ? baring in mind the odds on the big bang were 1/1000000000000 or whatever. you ethier have to commit to that 1/100000000000 chance or take the David Hume postion of infinate regression and the fact that the universe "just is" and the latter seems to me to be a bigger "faith" statement than Christianity.
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Post by thevoid on Dec 23, 2012 9:59:49 GMT
So you're in the 'arranged for his son to be born via a virgin and then forced him to die so the crimes of some people he'd never met could be forgiven' camp? Great parenting  |
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Post by Pricey on Dec 23, 2012 10:06:14 GMT
right ive got a good debate on. good stuff. just answer me this how did it all start ? baring in mind the odds on the big bang were 1/0100000000000 or whatever. you ethier have to commit to that 1/100000000000 chance or take the David Hume postion of infinate regression and the fact that the universe "just is" and the latter seems to me to be a bigger "faith" statement than Christianity. It looks like he's saying the big bang happened to me. Even I wouldn't put a fiver on at 1/100000000000. Scant return. |
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Post by madnellie on Dec 23, 2012 20:12:02 GMT
I clicked on this to priase TP, but i guess i can debate that instead. Dawkins isn't a phillsoper he's a biologist and more importantly a fraud. The God delusion is the worst book ive ever read. how you can compare god to a flying freakin teapot is beyond me. And if you think the world could function anywhere near aswell as it does without a disigner (God) then your insane. and ive read the blind watchmaker aswell and that number 2. in my list of complete wastes of time I clicked on this to praise TP too, doh! I agree with you about the book though. Dawkins comes across to me as just another fundamentalist who thinks every person who believes differently to him must be deluded and/or dangerous. It's not a book about science, it's a book about the thoughts of Dawkins. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 23, 2012 20:16:44 GMT
Dawkins wrote that book before he heard about TP.
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2012 20:57:26 GMT
Anyone read the "The blind watchmaker" by Richard Dawkins? Surely this is more akin to what TP is doing ? ;D  |
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Post by jimscfc on Dec 23, 2012 21:26:21 GMT
I clicked on this to priase TP, but i guess i can debate that instead. Dawkins isn't a phillsoper he's a biologist and more importantly a fraud. The God delusion is the worst book ive ever read. how you can compare god to a flying freakin teapot is beyond me. And if you think the world could function anywhere near aswell as it does without a disigner (God) then your insane. and ive read the blind watchmaker aswell and that number 2. in my list of complete wastes of time Anybody would find this book a waste of time if they couldn't read. Again, I find myself saying, what a crap post. I love the argument between Theism, Atheism and Agnosticism, however, that 'review' was the worst thing I have ever read. Ultimately, lets talk about Stoke City and subjects we know more than most on. |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 23, 2012 21:49:39 GMT
I clicked on this to priase TP, but i guess i can debate that instead. Dawkins isn't a phillsoper he's a biologist and more importantly a fraud. The God delusion is the worst book ive ever read. how you can compare god to a flying freakin teapot is beyond me. And if you think the world could function anywhere near aswell as it does without a disigner (God) then your insane. and ive read the blind watchmaker aswell and that number 2. in my list of complete wastes of time Anybody would find this book a waste of time if they couldn't read. Again, I find myself saying, what a crap post. I love the argument between Theism, Atheism and Agnosticism, however, that 'review' was the worst thing I have ever read. Ultimately, lets talk about Stoke City and subjects we know more than most on. No I can read, it's just what I was reading was complete one sided bollocks taking not into account the benifits of religion aswell as the likelyhood of a designer. Instead he's trys (and fails) to dimiss cristianity and indeed and all religion as insane, almost as insane as some of the comparisons he makes. I refer agian to the teapot round pluto! for which he has been widely cristized by people within the academic community as well as just people with any sense! |
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Post by Gods on Dec 23, 2012 22:01:04 GMT
Anybody would find this book a waste of time if they couldn't read. Again, I find myself saying, what a crap post. I love the argument between Theism, Atheism and Agnosticism, however, that 'review' was the worst thing I have ever read. Ultimately, lets talk about Stoke City and subjects we know more than most on. No I can read, it's just what I was reading was complete one sided bollocks taking not into account the benifits of religion aswell as the likelyhood of a designer. Instead he's trys (and fails) to dimiss cristianity and indeed and all religion as insane, almost as insane as some of the comparisons he makes. I refer agian to the teapot round pluto! for which he has been widely cristized by people within the academic community as well as just people with any sense! There is only 'one side' mate. Darwin was right and religion is Jack and the Beanstalk. Be lovely to think there is something else out there or some other explanation but sadly there is not. |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Dec 23, 2012 22:07:26 GMT
No I can read, it's just what I was reading was complete one sided bollocks taking not into account the benifits of religion aswell as the likelyhood of a designer. Instead he's trys (and fails) to dimiss cristianity and indeed and all religion as insane, almost as insane as some of the comparisons he makes. I refer agian to the teapot round pluto! for which he has been widely cristized by people within the academic community as well as just people with any sense! There is only 'one side' mate. Darwin was right and religion is Jack and the Beanstalk. Be lovely to think there is something else out there or some other explanation but sadly there is not. And you know this how ? |
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Post by foxysgloves on Dec 23, 2012 22:12:14 GMT
Perhaps the "Jesus Delusion" would be more apt for Tone?
A man of humble origins (bar the virgin birth).
Proclaimed by a select few as the messiah, derided by an ignorant majority as a fraud.
Cobbles together a rag-tag bunch of those written off by others who follow him with utter devotion (bar the odd Judas/Jermaine).
Struck down by the non-believers, seemingly lost forever.......but miraculously returns to prove his divinity with miraculous deeds and defensive records.
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Post by Fenparkpotter on Dec 23, 2012 22:19:32 GMT
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Post by madnellie on Dec 23, 2012 22:26:28 GMT
The truth is no one really knows, we all just have our own beliefs and thoughts on the matter and that's fine by me. Although I've never understood the idea that a person can't believe in both evolution and God. Darwin was himself agnostic but still believed that a person "can be an ardent Theist and an evolutionist."
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Post by madnellie on Dec 23, 2012 22:27:43 GMT
Perhaps the "Jesus Delusion" would be more apt for Tone? A man of humble origins (bar the virgin birth). Proclaimed by a select few as the messiah, derided by an ignorant majority as a fraud. Cobbles together a rag-tag bunch of those written off by others who follow him with utter devotion (bar the odd Judas/Jermaine). Struck down by the non-believers, seemingly lost forever.......but miraculously returns to prove his divinity with miraculous deeds and defensive records. Doffs cap at foxysgloves ;D |
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