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Post by sheikhmomo on Dec 11, 2012 1:52:26 GMT
We are without doubt the most boring successful (and that's the important bit) side to grace the Prem. If we'd have been relegated or looked in danger of relegation then he wouldn't even mention it. We play (especially over the last 18 months) horrible, horrible football but it's football that's putting points on the board ... very few people who didn't support Stoke would have the slightest interest in watching it. I don't think there's any doubt about that but Sunderland have been worse than us to watch this season on the evidence I have seen. Newcastle are currently both poor and dull to watch. Villa are largely terrible to watch, Liverpool (but it appears to be a crime to say it), are largely tiresome. Out of the good sides to watch, particularly the big teams, their conduct is so loathsome the only emotion it engenders is to stick a boot through the screen or sit in the stand and just shake your head at what the game has become. We are certainly fair game to be criticised but a bit more balance would be welcome.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 11, 2012 2:08:58 GMT
We are without doubt the most boring successful (and that's the important bit) side to grace the Prem. If we'd have been relegated or looked in danger of relegation then he wouldn't even mention it. We play (especially over the last 18 months) horrible, horrible football but it's football that's putting points on the board ... very few people who didn't support Stoke would have the slightest interest in watching it. I don't think there's any doubt about that but Sunderland have been worse than us to watch this season on the evidence I have seen. Newcastle are currently both poor and dull to watch. Villa are largely terrible to watch, Liverpool (but it appears to be a crime to say it), are largely tiresome. Out of the good sides to watch, particularly the big teams, their conduct is so loathsome the only emotion it engenders is to stick a boot through the screen or sit in the stand and just shake your head at what the game has become. We are certainly fair game to be criticised but a bit more balance would be welcome. That's why I put the word successful in italics, all of the teams you mention are under achieving because they're playing poor football as a result of not being very good at what they're setting out to do. We on the other hand ARE successful at what we're setting out to do ... it can be argued that we're succesful, specifically because we play boring football - we attempt to stop a game of football from even taking place and then try and nick somet from it if we can and it's actually working - people don't like watching it and if you don't support Stoke then I guess you can understand why.
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Post by ned on Dec 11, 2012 2:10:53 GMT
Mmmm. Having had to put up with condescending managers like, Wenger, Jol et al, who've just had a hard time against SCFC managed by - bollocks to 'em, TP - I couldn't care less how the football world views us.
It's how we view ourselves that matters. TP doesn't whine. That's fine by me. He stuffs up now and then' such as last seasons nonsense of playing Rob the Colossal German at full back and replacing him with an aging ex - Real Madrid player on reputation not form.
Overall we are progressing and ruffling a few feathers on the journey. Good.
Nice to see the 'whining Pardew' facing a bit of reality. TP had the balls to opt out of a competition that could have ruined us last season.
I know this view wont go down well with some but we're still in the Prem with a massive money increase next season. As much as the Capped Welsh Wizard drives me daft sometimes with his tactics and selections, he gets most of it right most of the time.
Durham? Who's he? ,
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Post by dozintheseventees on Dec 11, 2012 5:00:30 GMT
We are without doubt the most boring successful (and that's the important bit) side to grace the Prem. If we'd have been relegated or looked in danger of relegation then he wouldn't even mention it. We play (especially over the last 18 months) horrible, horrible football but it's football that's putting points on the board ... very few people who didn't support Stoke would have the slightest interest in watching it. Nail on head when you said "Successful". QPR fans would LOVE to be watching it (whatever they say).
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Post by stokeramblers on Dec 11, 2012 7:49:12 GMT
Most boring side ever? For me it's Derby as they were the least competitive side ever when they went down under Billy Davis. I like to see sides that compete and stop the league being a parade for the top 4 sides I thought Paul Jewell took them down? H My bad, they did share the burden. B
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Post by Olgrligm on Dec 11, 2012 8:05:22 GMT
I'd actually say Wigan are. The entire club has an air of boring non-entity about it.
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Post by manchesterpotter on Dec 11, 2012 8:58:59 GMT
I don't think there's any doubt about that but Sunderland have been worse than us to watch this season on the evidence I have seen. Newcastle are currently both poor and dull to watch. Villa are largely terrible to watch, Liverpool (but it appears to be a crime to say it), are largely tiresome. Out of the good sides to watch, particularly the big teams, their conduct is so loathsome the only emotion it engenders is to stick a boot through the screen or sit in the stand and just shake your head at what the game has become. We are certainly fair game to be criticised but a bit more balance would be welcome. That's why I put the word successful in italics, all of the teams you mention are under achieving because they're playing poor football as a result of not being very good at what they're setting out to do. We on the other hand ARE successful at what we're setting out to do ... it can be argued that we're succesful, specifically because we play boring football - we attempt to stop a game of football from even taking place and then try and nick somet from it if we can and it's actually working - people don't like watching it and if you don't support Stoke then I guess you can understand why. Spot on. And I would say that a substantial amount of our own fans don't particular enjoy watching it, either. We do what we do well, but I just wish that sometimes we actually went out to give the opposition a game, instead of just spoiling a match to get a point. I have no issue with trying to get points on the board, but we can be far more positive than the capped one allows us.
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Post by jarhead on Dec 11, 2012 10:11:54 GMT
Everything he says about us is true.
Why sad cunts get so uptight and have to ring up and make them sound totally dumb because watching the turgid shit makes us all look like we like it and except it! I fuckin Hate it!
Pulis Out
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Post by peterthornesboots on Dec 11, 2012 10:29:41 GMT
Everything he says about us is true. Why sad cunts get so uptight and have to ring up and make them sound totally dumb because watching the turgid shit makes us all look like we like it and except it! I fuckin Hate it! Pulis Out Change the tune Jarhead Regardless of your anti-Pulis feelings you and I both know that he's one of the most successful managers in this clubs history. You can keep banging your "Pulis out" drum but at the end of the day he isn't going to be leaving this club for a long time yet whether you like it or not!
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Dec 11, 2012 10:38:30 GMT
Ignore the twat. His programme is dependent on winding folk up to get them to ring in. Dont bite and the wanker will be gone.
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Post by borat on Dec 11, 2012 12:29:20 GMT
According to durham just on talk shite, however it is hard to disagree with him, considering a young inexperienced villa were there for the taking. We are by far the least entertaining team to EVER be in the premiership by a country mile and after spend 100 million or whatever it is very very embarrassing
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Post by foster on Dec 11, 2012 12:59:20 GMT
I'd say we're more frustrating than boring.
Though if I were a neutral then I can sort of see where he's coming from.
On the other, I don't really take any notice of his opinion because 99% of the time he talks bollocks.
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Post by foster on Dec 11, 2012 12:59:58 GMT
According to durham just on talk shite, however it is hard to disagree with him, considering a young inexperienced villa were there for the taking. We are by far the least entertaining team to EVER be in the premiership by a country mile and after spend 100 million or whatever it is very very embarrassing Think you'll find it's 100 billion. 100 million was last week.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Dec 11, 2012 13:01:49 GMT
Plymouth fans, when visiting the Brit for a Championship game several seasons ago were heard to chant "we're not boring anymore". Care to swap positions? Look how far we have come FFS?
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Post by Danstoke82 on Dec 11, 2012 13:08:20 GMT
That show should no longer be known as Talksport. It should be called TalkARSENAL as thats the only fucking thing they ever go on about.
I swear Durham is rear ending Wenger the amount of air time he uses to discuss that french twat.
End of day, I couldnt give two shits what Durham thinks, his team are shite, bottom of the Championship and going down. My team are in the Premier League and pushing on.
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Post by adri2008 on Dec 11, 2012 15:04:46 GMT
As others have said, if we were shit, people wouldn't bother mentioning that we're dull to watch. It just grates on people that tippy tappy pretty passing doesn't always win out against the sides who set out to be solid and difficult to break down.
There's no denying we are dire to watch at times though but you could say that about many sides - Man Utd don't play champagne football week in, week out - alot of the time they just grind the results out. When we are in full flow, we are one of the better sides to watch imo - just a shame its not more often.
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Post by billybigballs on Dec 11, 2012 15:09:27 GMT
its no wonder some of you are bored if you spend your time listening to that shit and moaning on here
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Post by buddyfolly on Dec 11, 2012 16:57:34 GMT
got to say i think hes right only because well .......erm thats how i feel when i go to the match,bored,de-motivated,confused,cold,looking at the clock willing it forward to end the torment.
i hear what you say about we are stuck with him but i'm afraid this will be my last season at the brit until he has gone,its just i cannot stand it anymore.dont give me evolution bollox either its still 4-4-1-1 with adam in the mama role that kitson,tuncay,walters have tried to do with not as much success as mama,I'll tell you this if mama was fit he would be the second name on the teamsheet after walters.
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Post by stokeramblers on Dec 11, 2012 17:01:50 GMT
got to say i think hes right only because well .......erm thats how i feel when i go to the match,bored,de-motivated,confused,cold,looking at the clock willing it forward to end the torment. i hear what you say about we are stuck with him but i'm afraid this will be my last season at the brit until he has gone,its just i cannot stand it anymore.dont give me evolution bollox either its still 4-4-1-1 with adam in the mama role that kitson,tuncay,walters have tried to do with not as much success as mama,I'll tell you this if mama was fit he would be the second name on the teamsheet after walters. I still don't buy that we're the most boring team in the Premiership team ever though. Do you not think Derby or Sunderland fans were more bored than you when they were getting relegated with record low points tallies. Bored of getting dicked week in week out? We are boring but the 'most boring ever' that's just hyperbolic horse shit.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 11, 2012 17:08:17 GMT
got to say i think hes right only because well .......erm thats how i feel when i go to the match,bored,de-motivated,confused,cold,looking at the clock willing it forward to end the torment. i hear what you say about we are stuck with him but i'm afraid this will be my last season at the brit until he has gone,its just i cannot stand it anymore.dont give me evolution bollox either its still 4-4-1-1 with adam in the mama role that kitson,tuncay,walters have tried to do with not as much success as mama,I'll tell you this if mama was fit he would be the second name on the teamsheet after walters. I still don't buy that we're the most boring team in the Premiership team ever though. Do you not think Derby or Sunderland fans were more bored than you when they were getting relegated with record low points tallies. Bored of getting dicked week in week out? We are boring but the 'most boring ever' that's just hyperbolic horse shit. Yeh but thats what makes us boring. We are talking from a neutral perspective presumably? We can defend really well which makes our games dire because we are so poor going forward so its almost always a 0-0/1-0 type game. Derby were poor going forward but were rubbish defensively hence there were always goals in their games, and were therefore more exciting matches than ours, for instance they would lose games by 3 goals regularly which made for better entertainment. You seem to be getting a little confused by the definition of boring. Being a fan and being pissed off because you keep losing is different from a neutral fan watching a game and being bored. The latter applies to nearly all of our games I imagine ;D
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Post by skip on Dec 11, 2012 17:09:14 GMT
As a footballing spectacle, Stoke possibly are boring to the purist non-partisan viewer. However, I know of fans of Palace, Spurs, Millwall and WHAM to name but four other clubs' supporters who find Stoke [Pulis' tactics/mindset] fascinating. One of the Spurs fans though thinks we're going to get our arses well and truly kicked on the 22nd...
Stoke aren't the most boring team in the Premiership. That honour goes to a small number of clubs that have played ball, attempted to play ball (pun intended) and got shafted and relegated. Stoke City in the Premiership has been a talking point, made the debate on tactics interesting, reignited the debate of the eternal underdog, seen the occasional corking game - how many neutrals wanted Man City to beat us in the FA Cup Final? - and if Adrian D could be honest with himself for five seconds he'd admit that the amount of mileage he's got out of us makes Stoke anything but boring.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Dec 11, 2012 17:12:06 GMT
As a footballing spectacle, Stoke possibly are boring to the purist non-partisan viewer. However, I know of fans of Palace, Spurs, Millwall and WHAM to name but four other clubs' supporters who find Stoke [Pulis' tactics/mindset] fascinating. One of the Spurs fans though thinks we're going to get our arses well and truly kicked on the 22nd... Stoke aren't the most boring team in the Premiership. That honour goes to a small number of clubs that have played ball, attempted to play ball (pun intended) and got shafted and relegated. Stoke City in the Premiership has been a talking point, made the debate on tactics interesting, reignited the debate of the eternal underdog, seen the occasional corking game - how many neutrals wanted Man City to beat us in the FA Cup Final? - and if Adrian D could be honest with himself for five seconds he'd admit that the amount of mileage he's got out of us makes Stoke anything but boring. Yeh but hes got that mileage because he claims we are dirty and snap players legs intentionally...its got nothing to do with us being exciting mate.
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Post by skip on Dec 11, 2012 17:24:07 GMT
but mileage is mileage, no? I'm simply questioning his use of the word boring. Negative, stifling, frustrating, tactically retrograde, cynical, blunt. He could say all of those things and I'd be struggling to argue with him at times, but boring? No. If he claims we are a dirty team then it's simply inaccurate. He's like a dog with a bone over Stoke and by Christ he's boring, harping on about Stoke at every given opportunity. I'd love to see him stick the boot in to the top half a dozen teams with their blatant gamesmanship but he won't. Mind you, I'm saying that without any evidence as I can't stand to listen to him and haven't done for ages.
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Post by outspaced on Dec 11, 2012 19:29:58 GMT
Into our 5th season in the Prem and people still haven't worked Adrian Durham out. He's very good at throwing out a line because he knows people will bite.
Yesterday it seemed totally at random that he picked on Norwich saying they were on a lucky run at the moment and they will be relegated at the end of the season. His logic being that because they are a rubbish 2nd half team (stats?) they will be a rubbish 2nd half of the season team. I'm not 100% on the next thing he said as i was distracted in the car but i thought i heard him say their result at Swansea didn't really count because they lost the 2nd half 3-1!!!!!
Anyway after a bit more chat and a break, the next caller? A Norwich fan. Job done.
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Post by stanner on Dec 11, 2012 19:34:14 GMT
I actually thought you lot played quite open at Old Traff this season, more so than the last few times, was your style of play one of the reasons that you only brought 800 or so for a game only 40 miles away, you used to have fairly decent away support!!
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Post by Staying up for Grandadstokey on Dec 11, 2012 20:47:17 GMT
I actually thought you lot played quite open at Old Traff this season, more so than the last few times, was your style of play one of the reasons that you only brought 800 or so for a game only 40 miles away, you used to have fairly decent away support!! Those 800 still made more noise than the other 70 odd thousand.
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Post by jonathanacworth on Dec 11, 2012 20:50:37 GMT
peterborough durhams team oh sorry not even in the prem!!!!!
i go for liverpool and arsenal zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
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Post by MadridStokie on Dec 11, 2012 21:41:42 GMT
Yep, a Villa team clearly there for the taking at their place ... just like Norwich have found tonight and Man U and Everton really ripped them apart didnt they (the only teams to have won at Villa this season).
All we needed to do was turn up ... and we couldn't even manage that ! If we had turned up we probably would have won 6-0.
Pulis out.
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Post by padders01 on Dec 11, 2012 21:47:12 GMT
Yep, a Villa team clearly there for the taking at their place ... just like Norwich have found tonight and Man U and Everton really ripped them apart didnt they (the only teams to have won at Villa this season). All we needed to do was turn up ... and we couldn't even manage that ! If we had turned up we probably would have won 6-0. Pulis out. You can't win a game of football without having a shot on target Villa were there for the taking. The manager bottled it yet again. I don't understand why that is so difficult to understand?
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Post by MadridStokie on Dec 11, 2012 21:57:59 GMT
Nothing difficult to understand. We cancelled each other out which is why pretty much the same Villa team has had 17 shots tonight and scored 4 against a team on an excellent run. Villa only had 5 shots and they were the home team. Maybe if they had not played so defensively to stop us playing we might have had more shots at goal. I dont understand why that is so difficult to understand
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