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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 10, 2012 22:17:44 GMT
Disagree - we would ship goals by the bucketful If Adam has proven anything at his previous clubs it is that he can't play a disciplined role as one of a pair of central midfielders. Ollie played 2 defensive midfielders to support him. I don't think so March, I think we would be doing a disservice to Adam by suggesting that he can only play well when he has two other midfielders to cover him. If Adam wasn't bought to play as part of midfield pair (assuming that TP agrees with you) then why on earth have we bought him? Where do you think he would be best suited? Doesn't history sort of show that to be the case though? Why have we bought him? Bloody good question! I don't think TP knows, so fook knows how we should!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 10, 2012 22:57:50 GMT
Why does TP bring quality players without having a clue what to do with them? Adam is one of a long list of names that fall into this category.
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 10, 2012 23:26:00 GMT
Why does TP bring quality players without having a clue what to do with them? Adam is one of a long list of names that fall into this category. Do you think that maybe he convinces himself he is going to adapt his system to suit his new players when he first buys them, and then about 5 minutes after they've signed he changes his mind and tries to shoehorn them into his system. Or, like me, do you think he buys players who he thinks everyone else thinks are good without ever for one second considering where they would fit into his own unique way of playing 4-4-1------1. ___pegs in _____holes ( fill in the gaps any pieces will do).
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Post by march4 on Nov 10, 2012 23:31:12 GMT
Why does TP bring quality players without having a clue what to do with them? Adam is one of a long list of names that fall into this category. Do you think that maybe he convinces himself he is going to adapt his system to suit his new players when he first buys them, and then about 5 minutes after they've signed he changes his mind and tries to shoehorn them into his system. Or, like me, do you think he buys players who he thinks everyone else thinks are good without ever for one second considering where they would fit into his own unique way of playing 4-4-1------1. ___pegs in _____holes ( fill in the gaps any pieces will do). I think TP believes that if a player possesses real quality then he will be able to adapt to one of the roles in our team.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 23:48:02 GMT
Disagree - we would ship goals by the bucketful If Adam has proven anything at his previous clubs it is that he can't play a disciplined role as one of a pair of central midfielders. Ollie played 2 defensive midfielders to support him. I don't think so March, I think we would be doing a disservice to Adam by suggesting that he can only play well when he has two other midfielders to cover him. If Adam wasn't bought to play as part of midfield pair (assuming that TP agrees with you) then why on earth have we bought him? Where do you think he would be best suited? If he was bought to play as part of a midfield pair why isn't he playing in midfield? Midfielders in the cage have to be incredibly fit and defensively disciplined and be able to harry and close down off the ball. Adam can't do that - defensively he's a liability. That's why at his other teams he's had two other midfielders to do the dirty work and afford him the freedom he needs. Also, the position in our side with the least responsibilities defensively is the one Ric occupied, where PC is currently playing.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2012 23:48:52 GMT
Do you think that maybe he convinces himself he is going to adapt his system to suit his new players when he first buys them, and then about 5 minutes after they've signed he changes his mind and tries to shoehorn them into his system. Or, like me, do you think he buys players who he thinks everyone else thinks are good without ever for one second considering where they would fit into his own unique way of playing 4-4-1------1. ___pegs in _____holes ( fill in the gaps any pieces will do). I think TP believes that if a player possesses real quality then he will be able to adapt to one of the roles in our team. You think he would have realised by now though that it's a pretty flawed logic ...
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Post by march4 on Nov 10, 2012 23:49:48 GMT
I don't think so March, I think we would be doing a disservice to Adam by suggesting that he can only play well when he has two other midfielders to cover him. If Adam wasn't bought to play as part of midfield pair (assuming that TP agrees with you) then why on earth have we bought him? Where do you think he would be best suited? If he was bought to play as part of a midfield pair why isn't he playing in midfield? Midfielders in the cage have to be incredibly fit and defensively disciplined and be able to harry and close down off the ball. Adam can't do that - defensively he's a liability. That's why at his other teams he's had two other midfielders to do the dirty work and afford him the freedom he needs. Also, the position in our side with the least responsibilities defensively is the one Ric occupied, where PC is currently playing. PC doesn't have the energy to play there Rob. It would be car crash stuff if Adam led the line, wouldn't it?
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Post by roylandstoke on Nov 10, 2012 23:52:34 GMT
Do you think that maybe he convinces himself he is going to adapt his system to suit his new players when he first buys them, and then about 5 minutes after they've signed he changes his mind and tries to shoehorn them into his system. Or, like me, do you think he buys players who he thinks everyone else thinks are good without ever for one second considering where they would fit into his own unique way of playing 4-4-1------1. ___pegs in _____holes ( fill in the gaps any pieces will do). I think TP believes that if a player possesses real quality then he will be able to adapt to one of the roles in our team. I look forward to one of our quality goalkeepers at left back and Matty Etherington alongside Ryan Shawcross at centre back.
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Post by march4 on Nov 10, 2012 23:53:31 GMT
I think TP believes that if a player possesses real quality then he will be able to adapt to one of the roles in our team. I look forward to one of our quality goalkeepers at left back and Matty Etherington alongside Ryan Shawcross at centre back. A midfielder should be able to play anywhere in midfield shouldn't they?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 10, 2012 23:58:44 GMT
I look forward to one of our quality goalkeepers at left back and Matty Etherington alongside Ryan Shawcross at centre back. A midfielder should be able to play anywhere in midfield shouldn't they? Who would you rather have in our midfield March, Vieira or Arshavin?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 10, 2012 23:58:59 GMT
I look forward to one of our quality goalkeepers at left back and Matty Etherington alongside Ryan Shawcross at centre back. A midfielder should be able to play anywhere in midfield shouldn't they? Based on what? Should we have Ethers in the cage next game?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 11, 2012 0:00:53 GMT
If he was bought to play as part of a midfield pair why isn't he playing in midfield? Midfielders in the cage have to be incredibly fit and defensively disciplined and be able to harry and close down off the ball. Adam can't do that - defensively he's a liability. That's why at his other teams he's had two other midfielders to do the dirty work and afford him the freedom he needs. Also, the position in our side with the least responsibilities defensively is the one Ric occupied, where PC is currently playing. PC doesn't have the energy to play there Rob. It would be car crash stuff if Adam led the line, wouldn't it? You misunderstand march. The line leading role is the only one with any creative freedom, not the withdrawn role.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Nov 11, 2012 0:00:56 GMT
I look forward to one of our quality goalkeepers at left back and Matty Etherington alongside Ryan Shawcross at centre back. A midfielder should be able to play anywhere in midfield shouldn't they? That's a pretty mental statement
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Post by davejohnno1 on Nov 11, 2012 1:19:28 GMT
I've always said that Pulis was a lucky manager and today proved it.
Adam playing on the right wing was a real sight to behold. It was so ridiculous that even the old woman sat behind me commented about how fucking stupid it was.
Heypresto, up he popped and scored his first goal for us.
Lucky Pulis again.
I then had to listen to Nigel Johnson insinuate to Pulis that Adam has a free role and then listen to Pulis saying that we are trying to give Adam license to get into areas that damage the oppostion.
What a complete load of shit.
Adam seems all over the place because our manager hasn't got a fucking clue what to do with him.
We won and that is all that matters but today was absolutely woeful.
EDIT - Don't even get me started on Adam trotting over from the right wing to the left corner flag to take some ridiculous imitation of a long throw. Just what the fuck was all that about?
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Post by jarhead on Nov 11, 2012 1:32:34 GMT
Spot on johnno
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Post by mica on Nov 11, 2012 2:59:46 GMT
I confidently predict he'll be switched to left back next week.
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