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Post by Olgrligm on Nov 3, 2012 19:00:58 GMT
Can anybody name a successful team currently playing 4-4-2? That's 4-4-2 and not some variation on 4-5-1 in disguise.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2012 19:03:08 GMT
Can anybody name a successful team currently playing 4-4-2? That's 4-4-2 and not some variation on 4-5-1 in disguise. No. Pardew tries to clain 'Castle do but they certainly didn't last season. Ba was stuck on the wing, I haven't seen them much this season so don't if he's changed that. Man Yoo play with 2 strikers but it's not a 4-4-2.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 3, 2012 19:04:03 GMT
Why go over formations and teams we should be playing? What's the point. That's what football discussion boards and forums are about. Discussing games, players, transfers, tactics and formations etc... If you feel its pointless why create an account and come on here? Bizarre post. Same could be said about moaning about a manager and suggesting who and how he should play certain players when he openly says he doesn't give a shit what us supporters say, think or do, hope this helps.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2012 19:05:41 GMT
That's what football discussion boards and forums are about. Discussing games, players, transfers, tactics and formations etc... If you feel its pointless why create an account and come on here? Bizarre post. Same could be said about moaning about a manager and suggesting who and how he should play certain players when he openly says he doesn't give a shit what us supporters say, think or do, hope this helps. Shut the board down!
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Post by onemanbang on Nov 3, 2012 19:06:03 GMT
Bego Cameron Shawcross Huth Wilko Whelan N'zonzi Adam Jerome Crouch Ethers I like that side, it's got more pace, more presence and we could support Crouch and still protect the full backs. That's the team for me. we need to stop playing Adam behind the strikers and let him sit deep as a midfield three, Let him play that quarterback role. Nzoni/ whelan win the ball ----> simple ball to Adam----> then a picked pass to either: A/ Crouch to hold up, control and play off to someone else B/ Over the top to Jerome and use his pace on the last defender. in on goal and usually ending with a strike. C/ as above but with Matty it will usually end with a a cross to either Crouch or Jerome coming in.
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 3, 2012 19:07:28 GMT
Same could be said about moaning about a manager and suggesting who and how he should play certain players when he openly says he doesn't give a shit what us supporters say, think or do, hope this helps. Shut the board down! That would save me some time. Seriously though what's the fucking point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2012 19:07:52 GMT
Bego Cameron Shawcross Huth Wilko Whelan N'zonzi Adam Jerome Crouch Ethers I like that side, it's got more pace, more presence and we could support Crouch and still protect the full backs. That's the team for me. we need to stop playing Adam behind the strikers and let him sit deep as a midfield three, Let him play that quarterback role. Nzoni/ whelan win the ball ----> simple ball to Adam----> then a picked pass to either: A/ Crouch to hold up, control and play off to someone else B/ Over the top to Jerome and use his pace on the last defender. in on goal and usually ending with a strike. C/ as above but with Matty it will usually end with a a cross to either Crouch or Jerome coming in. It looks good on paper doesn't it!?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 3, 2012 19:08:33 GMT
Shut the board down! That would save me some time. Seriously though what's the fucking point. It's what being a football fan is about, what's the point in being a fan if we can't discuss our team?
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Post by onemanbang on Nov 3, 2012 19:12:49 GMT
That's the team for me. we need to stop playing Adam behind the strikers and let him sit deep as a midfield three, Let him play that quarterback role. Nzoni/ whelan win the ball ----> simple ball to Adam----> then a picked pass to either: A/ Crouch to hold up, control and play off to someone else B/ Over the top to Jerome and use his pace on the last defender. in on goal and usually ending with a strike. C/ as above but with Matty it will usually end with a a cross to either Crouch or Jerome coming in. It looks good on paper doesn't it!? It does doesn't it? easy this managing malarkey. Shit the bed I've just noticed that formation gives us a plan A, B & C. That's that then, it will never happen.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Nov 3, 2012 19:16:47 GMT
We were shit and lumping it in the box (like always) but having KJ in there with Crouch sure did cause them problems.. should've got a result today. On a side note, I wasn't that bothered when Pennant left but now i'm changing my mind.. we needed someone like him off the bench today with Ethers starting.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Nov 3, 2012 19:23:53 GMT
Can anybody name a successful team currently playing 4-4-2? That's 4-4-2 and not some variation on 4-5-1 in disguise. Hence why there wasn't many teams chasing Crouch, when we paid £10 million for him. Crouch is a great striker but his lack of pace and movement means that unless he's got a pacy, agile partner playing off his shoulder then that specific strike force is going to be severly hamstrung. He is completely unsuited to Pulisball.
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Post by themightyragnar on Nov 3, 2012 19:30:13 GMT
Is it possible to even consider a formation that is not built around Crouch. He scores goals only because nobody else does.
TP could change to whatever formation he wants but the main issue is a genuine natural goalscorer (and it's not Owen).
and it's also not about who we want, it's about who we can get to come.
3 in 35 is just not good enough and anywhere else it would be Auf Weidersen Pet for TP.
Walters will run for you all day but so does my dog and he don't score goals either.
Come On Stoke get it sorted because we are living on reputation now and the old "Stoke are hard to beat" aint quite ringing so true now.
As has already been said we should be cleaning teams like these out and leaving them totally beaten in every department.
Who fears a Stoke match these days?
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Post by Kjones9 on Nov 3, 2012 19:46:56 GMT
Ok then I will have a go at this formation lark. This is the only team that will work for stoke city under mr tony pulis:-
Begovic
Wilkinson huth shawcross higgy Kightly Delap. N'zonzi. Ethers
Mama
Jerome
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