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Post by cousindupree on Oct 19, 2012 11:16:05 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Oct 19, 2012 11:27:56 GMT
if Jones and Smalling are back by then then i would expect them to be the fringe players in Ryan's position...not that i agree but i think that's how Woy will see it...even Caulker is probably ahead of Ryan in the pecking order
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 19, 2012 11:30:07 GMT
Caulker might also be available if the U-21s aren't playing
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Post by Olgrligm on Oct 19, 2012 11:30:26 GMT
Honestly, I don't think he'll get a look in. Jones and Smalling will be back by then, so he'll have those two in his squad along with Lescott and Jagielka.
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Post by RAF on Oct 19, 2012 11:31:03 GMT
I totally agree that if he is going to get a look in , then this is the game over the others that he should get at least a half.
That said we are talking about Hodgson who is a myopic self serving cock wrench, so I won't be holding my breath.
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Post by Spud on Oct 19, 2012 12:17:41 GMT
I've not seen anything from smalling that suggests he's any better than Ryan at all and jones in my opinion is a cm.
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Post by RAF on Oct 19, 2012 12:24:51 GMT
I've not seen anything from smalling that suggests he's any better than Ryan at all and jones in my opinion is a cm. I've not seen anything from either of them that suggests they are a class centre half. H |
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Post by Danstoke82 on Oct 19, 2012 12:27:19 GMT
It will be Jagielka and Lescott. Thats Hodgsons view of tinkering around a bit.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 19, 2012 12:30:29 GMT
in order for ryan to become an england regular he will have to play regulary for a champions league team or at worst a tottenham or liverpool
not many england regulars (goalkeepers aside) over the last few years have broken that mould and i would expect that to continue in the future.
the danger for us is that he will have to move to achieve this
the danger for ryan is he will have to do this soon to avoid being overtaken by bertrand, caulker, jones, cahill and smalling and any other promising youngsters coming through at the big teams
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Post by RAF on Oct 19, 2012 12:47:43 GMT
in order for ryan to become an england regular he will have to play regulary for a champions league team or at worst a tottenham or liverpool not many england regulars (goalkeepers aside) over the last few years have broken that mould and i would expect that to continue in the future. the danger for us is that he will have to move to achieve this the danger for ryan is he will have to do this soon to avoid being overtaken by bertrand, caulker, jones, cahill and smalling and any other promising youngsters coming through at the big teams Sad but ultimately probably true. H |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on Oct 19, 2012 12:48:32 GMT
His England debut totally depends on when he signs for Manchester United or AN Other top five side.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 19, 2012 13:01:15 GMT
His England debut totally depends on when he signs for Manchester United or AN Other top five side. Or Liverpool |
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