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Post by jbdotco on Oct 17, 2012 22:30:38 GMT
I was wondering if anybody on here has suffered from the disorder recently or at all? I've suffered with depression once or twice in the past and it's something I would never wish on anybody. Last year I became hopeless, fatigued, lost interest in things I was previously very passionate about - SCFC included and just generally felt helpless and anxious all the time. This was at a time when I had everything going for me and considered myself to be very lucky, I had family who cared for me and were always supportive, I was doing what I wanted to be doing life/career wise and had good friends and a girlfriend that pardon the cheese, is my dream girl. For absolutely no reason I begin to suffer with depression and not knowing the concrete reason for it made it even more difficult to accept and cope with. I let it stew for a while and surpressed it, mainly out of embarrassment and the fact I was worried people would think I was just after a bit of sympathy. I eventually told those close to me and the help I received turned everything around and now it's just a distant memory. The reason I'm taking about this is because a lot of people will suffer in silence and just let it eat them up without perhaps even realising the seriousness of the disorder. I just wondered if anybody else had suffered from it and would be able to say how they got better and what steps they took to sort themselves out or seek help. Mainly because last year before I had the courage to tell anybody I looked on message boards and articles on the Internet that helped me a lot and if this could help someone it'd be worth this long mopey post  I think people see it as just a way to get attention for some people and I've been quite alarmed at the way people perceive depression, in football in particular. Seemingly believing that material goods can affect people's happiness and not knowing how deep rooted it can be. I'd just be interested in how other people see it? |
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 17, 2012 23:41:17 GMT
I was depressed when we lost at Crewe 2-0. Not anymore.
Getting a grip might help?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2012 23:42:01 GMT
I was wondering if anybody on here has suffered from the disorder recently or at all? I've suffered with depression once or twice in the past and it's something I would never wish on anybody. Last year I became hopeless, fatigued, lost interest in things I was previously very passionate about - SCFC included and just generally felt helpless and anxious all the time. This was at a time when I had everything going for me and considered myself to be very lucky, I had family who cared for me and were always supportive, I was doing what I wanted to be doing life/career wise and had good friends and a girlfriend that pardon the cheese, is my dream girl. For absolutely no reason I begin to suffer with depression and not knowing the concrete reason for it made it even more difficult to accept and cope with. I let it stew for a while and surpressed it, mainly out of embarrassment and the fact I was worried people would think I was just after a bit of sympathy. I eventually told those close to me and the help I received turned everything around and now it's just a distant memory. The reason I'm taking about this is because a lot of people will suffer in silence and just let it eat them up without perhaps even realising the seriousness of the disorder. I just wondered if anybody else had suffered from it and would be able to say how they got better and what steps they took to sort themselves out or seek help. Mainly because last year before I had the courage to tell anybody I looked on message boards and articles on the Internet that helped me a lot and if this could help someone it'd be worth this long mopey post I think people see it as just a way to get attention for some people and I've been quite alarmed at the way people perceive depression, in football in particular. Seemingly believing that material goods can affect people's happiness and not knowing how deep rooted it can be. I'd just be interested in how other people see it? It's more common than people think ,i have suffered from it for some years , unfortunately for me it went a step further and i had a nervous breakdown a couple of years ago, struggled to recover from it and this April I suffered a second one , its dreadful but you have to soldier on , that's why the Gerard thread got me annoyed last week , people on here talking nonsense about it , not having a clue what it's like only that money solves everything ...well it doesn't . |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2012 23:45:14 GMT
I was depressed when we lost at Crewe 2-0. Not anymore. Getting a grip might help? Sometimes getting a grip is easier said than done mate , I used to think in terms like that, but when it affects you , you soon take a different view |
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Post by swampySCFC on Oct 17, 2012 23:48:09 GMT
Im not saying it isnt.
But we all live a life and make choices. Lifes hard. Ups and downs but whats the answer? Years of fannying about or get a grip?
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Post by Deleted on Oct 17, 2012 23:59:11 GMT
Im not saying it isnt. But we all live a life and make choices. Lifes hard. Ups and downs but whats the answer? Years of fannying about or get a grip? Fair enough mate that's your view ,lets leave it at that |
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Post by harryburrows on Oct 18, 2012 4:00:58 GMT
Im not saying it isnt. But we all live a life and make choices. Lifes hard. Ups and downs but whats the answer? Years of fannying about or get a grip? I've seen depression in my family (dad) and unless you have experienced it 1st hand it's not something you would understand ,it's not a lifestyle choice , it's not something you cure by getting a grip |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 6:01:02 GMT
My dad has suffers on and off with this for years. He's never told a Dr, or anyone else. Just my mum, who noticed the symptoms anyway. He's read and understands about it but as yet, cannot control it. It comes and goes in waves. He knows he has to dig deep and pull himself out of it but has little energy or will during that time. It lasts about two to three days before he starts to see the light again and is then fine for a month or two I think it all started the year my grandad had a stroke and my nan had breast cancer at the same time...maybe  Very similar to Barry everything else was, and is good. To sum it in one word would be?... disillusionment f |
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Post by Matthews dad on Oct 18, 2012 6:11:18 GMT
Is the new backache.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Oct 18, 2012 6:12:23 GMT
I've never suffered from it. I have of course been depressed at times but that is different to full blown clinical depression. I've had a few friends and family who've suffered from it though - sometimes for years and sometimes, happily, they have managed to work through it and come out unscathed.
Anyone who gives the advice "get a grip" may be well meaning but obviously knows little about clinical depression. Most people I know who have had it recognise that they have it but are no more likely to cure themselves without help than the rest of us could "get a grip" and cure cancer or heart disease.
What does strike me as odd is that some sufferers seem to have got clinical depression due to a trigger. i.e. they did have something happen to them which caused them to become depressed and then found there was no easy way out. Others seem to slip into it for no apparent reason.
We know so little about the mind compared to the physical parts of our body. Hopefully that will change. I wonder how much it costs the country economically because depressives can be very unproductive - basically they can take all day to accomplish nothing. Very sad.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 6:49:00 GMT
For a few, maybe quite a few but, there are many genuine My Dad is self employed and has always managed to keep working ....for his own sanity not through necessity There are many who hide behind the disease to claim a living My dad, and i expect, many other sufferers who suffer in silence would never do that, because it would be a backward step and a deeper rut to escape from. And anyway who wants to be labelled for the sake of a few quid f |
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Oct 18, 2012 6:59:43 GMT
Its easy to mock someone who genuinely has depression by saying just get a get,pull yourself together etc....I have suffered from it genuinely in the past, and as per other posts kept it pretty much to myself.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 9:27:24 GMT
Im not saying it isnt. But we all live a life and make choices. Lifes hard. Ups and downs but whats the answer? Years of fannying about or get a grip? I've seen depression in my family (dad) and unless you have experienced it 1st hand it's not something you would understand ,it's not a lifestyle choice , it's not something you cure by getting a grip Correct Harry |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 9:32:17 GMT
Well give me backache any day |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 9:47:44 GMT
My dad has suffers on and off with this for years. He's never told a Dr, or anyone else. Just my mum, who noticed the symptoms anyway. He's read and understands about it but as yet, cannot control it. It comes and goes in waves. He knows he has to dig deep and pull himself out of it but has little energy or will during that time. It lasts about two to three days before he starts to see the light again and is then fine for a month or two I think it all started the year my grandad had a stroke and my nan had breast cancer at the same time...maybe Very similar to Barry everything else was, and is good. To sum it in one word would be?... disillusionment f Reading about it and trying to understand it is one thing,coping with it is another thing entirely, it's understandable that people try to carry on as normal, but in doing so you end up just going around in circles , I would always advise that people seek help , there is no shame in it and it can only help .My best wishes to your dad |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 10:03:09 GMT
I've never suffered from it. I have of course been depressed at times but that is different to full blown clinical depression. I've had a few friends and family who've suffered from it though - sometimes for years and sometimes, happily, they have managed to work through it and come out unscathed. Anyone who gives the advice "get a grip" may be well meaning but obviously knows little about clinical depression. Most people I know who have had it recognise that they have it but are no more likely to cure themselves without help than the rest of us could "get a grip" and cure cancer or heart disease. What does strike me as odd is that some sufferers seem to have got clinical depression due to a trigger. i.e. they did have something happen to them which caused them to become depressed and then found there was no easy way out. Others seem to slip into it for no apparent reason. We know so little about the mind compared to the physical parts of our body. Hopefully that will change. I wonder how much it costs the country economically because depressives can be very unproductive - basically they can take all day to accomplish nothing. Very sad. You are quite right about the trigger Lakeland and it can be the most insignificant little thing that causes it , but it then sets off a chain reaction that can have been building up for years , as for the economics of it , well it must be astronomical on the medicational side of it alone |
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Post by tazi on Oct 18, 2012 13:02:15 GMT
I believe that ALL folk in some form of variety actually suffer from Bi-Polar and it aint nice...Some have it mildly, some have it dreadfully whilst others dont even realise they have it... I look after people that are Bi-Polar etc etc.... Depression, one of my mates comitted suicide through it...  |
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Post by mermaidsal on Oct 18, 2012 13:07:08 GMT
Hope you never get it then or anyone you love.  |
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Post by tazi on Oct 18, 2012 13:14:01 GMT
Iv'e suffered from it for years and years, probably since the passing away of my father when i was aged 11.
Get feeling that you dont want to do anything, every damned little ache and pain appears magnified and to go into work becomes an uphill struggle but once you're there then that's the hard part done, it's getting there in the first place that's bloody difficult.
Went see my GP 2 years ago who referred me for that lifestyle programme because i said to him the feelings that i experience and that i'd like some help in trying to become more fitter 'healthy in body healthy in mind' and all that which i do believe helps, rather than medication
However i was refused to go on the lifestyle programme because i didn't fit the criteria...
I then undertook a councelling course one of which was person to person in a room whilst the rest were over the telephone which in all honesty didn't feel the same. I completed the programme but it was more to just get it over with than myself feeling better...
Some of these services have alot to answer for.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 13:25:54 GMT
Hope you never get it then or anyone you love. Too right Sal |
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Post by adri2008 on Oct 18, 2012 13:26:33 GMT
Difficult for people to understand if you've never experienced it. There's a big difference with feeling a bit low and full blown depression. I suffered with this during my early 20s and the only way I can describe it is a pit that you never seem to be able to climb out of - there is no light at the end of the tunnel to cling on to. I visited my GP about it and he was utterly useless and generally unhelpful. I started talking about how I was feeling, doing things I enjoyed and generally just taking a more relaxed attitude to life and it seemed to do the trick. These days nothing really eats at me, most things aren't worth worrying about when all is said and done  |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 13:33:14 GMT
Iv'e suffered from it for years and years, probably since the passing away of my father when i was aged 11. Get feeling that you dont want to do anything, every damned little ache and pain appears magnified and to go into work becomes an uphill struggle but once you're there then that's the hard part done, it's getting there in the first place that's bloody difficult. Went see my GP 2 years ago who referred me for that lifestyle programme because i said to him the feelings that i experience and that i'd like some help in trying to become more fitter 'healthy in body healthy in mind' and all that which i do believe helps, rather than medication However i was refused to go on the lifestyle programme because i didn't fit the criteria... I then undertook a councelling course one of which was person to person in a room whilst the rest were over the telephone which in all honesty didn't feel the same. I completed the programme but it was more to just get it over with than myself feeling better... Some of these services have alot to answer for. In a lot of ways they are a complete waste of time, and I agree you do go through the motions to get to the end of them , Positve thinking they keep telling you is the key, recognise your negative thoughts and what caused you to think negatively ...dead easy ! Especially when you are really down, if only it was so simple |
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Oct 18, 2012 13:36:45 GMT
After spending almost 2 years of not letting anyone in after my dad died, I had a minor breakdown in October last year (around my 19th birthday). That's when I told my mum and step-dad everything and they took me to see the doctor who offered anti-dep and counselling at some company called Mind.
The medication never really seemed to work and the counselling was.. an experience to say the least. I mean I appreciate what they do (Mind in particular, who help a lot of younger people get over depression caused by horrible things) but after 6 or so hours of explaining my situation to her, it felt like she didn't have the answers I was seeking.
My depression was brought on by pretty rare circumstances and I think it's hard for anyone to offer me any sort of advice. My mum refuses to (she buries her head in the sand), my step dad tries and the 2 professionals I've seen over the last year don't quite get it.
I've just learnt to live with it now.
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Post by tazi on Oct 18, 2012 13:36:53 GMT
Iv'e suffered from it for years and years, probably since the passing away of my father when i was aged 11. Get feeling that you dont want to do anything, every damned little ache and pain appears magnified and to go into work becomes an uphill struggle but once you're there then that's the hard part done, it's getting there in the first place that's bloody difficult. Went see my GP 2 years ago who referred me for that lifestyle programme because i said to him the feelings that i experience and that i'd like some help in trying to become more fitter 'healthy in body healthy in mind' and all that which i do believe helps, rather than medication However i was refused to go on the lifestyle programme because i didn't fit the criteria... I then undertook a councelling course one of which was person to person in a room whilst the rest were over the telephone which in all honesty didn't feel the same. I completed the programme but it was more to just get it over with than myself feeling better... Some of these services have alot to answer for. In a lot of ways they are a complete waste of time, and I agree you do go through the motions to get to the end of them , Positve thinking they keep telling you is the key, recognise your negative thoughts and what caused you to think negatively ...dead easy ! Especially when you are really down, if only it was so simple Exactly.... |
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Post by offthewall on Oct 18, 2012 13:46:03 GMT
I know quite a few people the suffer from various degrees of depression.
One theory is that it's more intelligent, caring and thoughtful people who suffer....more human in fact.
Comedians often suffer from bouts of depression.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 13:48:51 GMT
After spending almost 2 years of not letting anyone in after my dad died, I had a minor breakdown in October last year (around my 19th birthday). That's when I told my mum and step-dad everything and they took me to see the doctor who offered anti-dep and counselling at some company called Mind. The medication never really seemed to work and the counselling was.. an experience to say the least. I mean I appreciate what they do (Mind in particular, who help a lot of younger people get over depression caused by horrible things) but after 6 or so hours of explaining my situation to her, it felt like she didn't have the answers I was seeking. My depression was brought on by pretty rare circumstances and I think it's hard for anyone to offer me any sort of advice. My mum refuses to (she buries her head in the sand), my step dad tries and the 2 professionals I've seen over the last year don't quite get it. I've just learnt to live with it now. The medication is a waste of time as is most of the counciling , as time goes by you do learn to live with it , you have to or go under, the fact is there isn't really a cure out there , It's just about trying to manage your life around it as best you can |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 13:51:38 GMT
I know quite a few people the suffer from various degrees of depression. One theory is that it's more intelligent, caring and thoughtful people who suffer....more human in fact. Comedians often suffer from bouts of depression. That's an interesting theory mate ...you are right about comedians Tony Hancock was probably the most well known example |
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Post by tazi on Oct 18, 2012 14:01:33 GMT
After spending almost 2 years of not letting anyone in after my dad died, I had a minor breakdown in October last year (around my 19th birthday). That's when I told my mum and step-dad everything and they took me to see the doctor who offered anti-dep and counselling at some company called Mind. The medication never really seemed to work and the counselling was.. an experience to say the least. I mean I appreciate what they do (Mind in particular, who help a lot of younger people get over depression caused by horrible things) but after 6 or so hours of explaining my situation to her, it felt like she didn't have the answers I was seeking. My depression was brought on by pretty rare circumstances and I think it's hard for anyone to offer me any sort of advice. My mum refuses to (she buries her head in the sand), my step dad tries and the 2 professionals I've seen over the last year don't quite get it. I've just learnt to live with it now. Pretty much like my mum except that i wouldn't say the she buried her head in the sand but more that she kind of wrapped up in her own world obviously brought on by depression. I'm now 47 and i can't still quite grasp why i should still feel like shit after 36 years of my dad passing away... One thing that i do know is that whilst i love my kids to bits and i wouldn't want or let them come to any harm i feel as though i dont let them get as close to me as perhaps i should do. At least iv'e managed find out why that is and it's because if i dont let them get as close to me than what i was to my dad then they'd think i was a bit of a cunt anyway therefore getting over my death a whole lot quicker that i ever did over my dad... Pretty senseless really but if you think about it it sounds perfectly reasonable... |
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Post by offthewall on Oct 18, 2012 14:57:23 GMT
I know quite a few people the suffer from various degrees of depression. One theory is that it's more intelligent, caring and thoughtful people who suffer....more human in fact. Comedians often suffer from bouts of depression. That's an interesting theory mate ...you are right about comedians Tony Hancock was probably the most well known example Bisp, I have worked with many 'new' comics and seriously many of them go through spells, it's is not a taboo in that community either. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2012 15:02:43 GMT
Anxiety and depression is the most common thing patients consult their GP about. It is rife. The mental health services are completely under resourced. If you consult your GP he will invariably dole out tablets. This is not the answer. Exercise programmes, CBT, Counselling are the way forward.
Depression respects no-one. It pisses me off when people say "get a grip" They haven't he first idea.
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