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Post by lloyd86 on Oct 9, 2012 10:57:41 GMT
hereisthecity.com/2012/10/08/one-area-in-which-liverpool-really-do-outclass-stoke-city/So what if they pass a ball twice as much as us!! Any team can do that at the end of the day between the back four, or play a pass into the middle and then come back again or even go to the Keeper. Kids can do that as well! Its about passing it about, going forward and having an end product at the end of the day! I think any team could put 1000 passes together in one game if you play the way Swansea do, or how Liverpool have started to play it now with Brendan Rogers being in charge.
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Post by StoKeith on Oct 9, 2012 11:03:26 GMT
Barcelona passed the ball much more than Real Madrid and had 70% possession in their recent 2-2 draw, but Real deserved at least a draw, if not a win. So I agree, possession and passing stats are useless if you don't do anything with the ball!
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 11:06:20 GMT
Brittion has amazing passing stats for Swansea.... What those stats don't tell you is that everyone one of them is a 10 yard pass back to the defence.
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Oct 9, 2012 11:11:22 GMT
The headline is a bit misleading, as the story actually concludes that Liverpool need to do something worthwhile with all the possession they have.
It even mentions that we are ahead of Liverpool in being efficient in front of goal.
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Post by rubyonrails on Oct 9, 2012 11:13:04 GMT
hereisthecity.com/2012/10/08/one-area-in-which-liverpool-really-do-outclass-stoke-city/So what if they pass a ball twice as much as us!! Any team can do that at the end of the day between the back four, or play a pass into the middle and then come back again or even go to the Keeper. Kids can do that as well! Its about passing it about, going forward and having an end product at the end of the day! I think any team could put 1000 passes together in one game if you play the way Swansea do, or how Liverpool have started to play it now with Brendan Rogers being in charge. We've seen a few of these passing sides off in the past few years too. I honestly think that this situation still has the potential go horribly wrong for Liverpool if all they aspire to be is a "passing" side. The Premier League can break hearts and is no respecter of a clubs history. |
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Post by podolipotter on Oct 9, 2012 11:32:48 GMT
I have only seen MOTD coverage of the game but clearly, on another day, Liverpool could have put 5 past us - certainly they created many more clear chances than we did, and how many times did the post point out just how close they came to scoring?
Again, going off only what I have seen, on MOTD, I think we were very luck on the day to come away with a point.
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Post by stokeramblers on Oct 9, 2012 11:33:42 GMT
I have only seen MOTD coverage of the game but clearly, on another day, Liverpool could have put 5 past us - certainly they created many more clear chances than we did, and how many times did the post point out just how close they came to scoring? Again, going off only what I have seen, on MOTD, I think we were very luck on the day to come away with a point. On another day we could quite easily have been 2-0 up at HT |
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Oct 9, 2012 12:07:41 GMT
Passes to the player on his left.who passes it back to him,who then passes it back to the player on his left,who then passes it back to him,who then passes it back to the keeper,do this 10 times and thats 50 passes, with ball at the point where it fecking started in the first place.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 9, 2012 12:33:47 GMT
The headline is a bit misleading, as the story actually concludes that Liverpool need to do something worthwhile with all the possession they have. It even mentions that we are ahead of Liverpool in being efficient in front of goal. Agree, the dreadful headline doesn't reflect the article. |
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Post by sportsman on Oct 9, 2012 15:30:32 GMT
Players and managers are more bothered about their OPTA stats nowadays. Remember a Swansea player last season had more completed passes that zavi and iniesta!! That tells you all you need to know.
I bet loads of players check their stats after games. Some will even be more bothered that they have climbed up the European stat ladder than if they won their game of football!
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Post by mickmills on Oct 9, 2012 15:45:11 GMT
The title rather sums up just how far Liverpool have fallen though. Could you imagine Barcelona, Manchester United or Real Madrid trying to gain schoolboy points to justify why they are slightly better than us despite results to the contrary.
Turn it around and it shows far far we've moved forwards
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Post by biganddaft on Oct 9, 2012 17:05:02 GMT
I have only seen MOTD coverage of the game but clearly, on another day, Liverpool could have put 5 past us - certainly they created many more clear chances than we did, and how many times did the post point out just how close they came to scoring? Again, going off only what I have seen, on MOTD, I think we were very luck on the day to come away with a point. Disagree with all that, pal.  How you can make this assessment of the match, based on what you watched on MOD2 is staggering. |
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Post by Beloved Monkfish on Oct 9, 2012 17:15:12 GMT
I have only seen MOTD coverage of the game but clearly, on another day, Liverpool could have put 5 past us - certainly they created many more clear chances than we did, and how many times did the post point out just how close they came to scoring? Again, going off only what I have seen, on MOTD, I think we were very luck on the day to come away with a point. Disagree with all that, pal. How you can make this assessment of the match, based on what you watched on MOD2 is staggering. To be fair he has made that clear, twice in his post if you read it properly. |
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Post by biganddaft on Oct 9, 2012 17:23:34 GMT
Disagree with all that, pal. How you can make this assessment of the match, based on what you watched on MOD2 is staggering. To be fair he has made that clear, twice in his post if you read it properly. I did marra. My point was, we get fucked over every week on MOTD. When did you ever see a balanced overview of events concerning Stoke on this programme? And if anybody thinks that Liverpool created a number of clear cut chances, I would like to see the match again, as I must have missed them.  |
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Post by march4 on Oct 9, 2012 18:01:01 GMT
I have only seen MOTD coverage of the game but clearly, on another day, Liverpool could have put 5 past us - certainly they created many more clear chances than we did, and how many times did the post point out just how close they came to scoring? Again, going off only what I have seen, on MOTD, I think we were very luck on the day to come away with a point. What complete and utter rubbish. |
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Post by Linx on Oct 9, 2012 18:03:52 GMT
TBH I thought the MOTD2 coverage was pretty balanced, as was the editing of the game. The fact that we almost nicked it and that Liverpool were totally ineffective in the final third was reliably represented. At the end of the day, we have to accept that Liverpool's international following and MOTD's market-driven slant means that they are going to focus more on Liverpool than us, and why exactly Liverpool are so crap at the moment.
Listening to the radio commentary and reading the OMB comments, I was expecting a classically numbing version of Pulisball similar to our first Prem trip to Anfield. But it was totally different to that.
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Post by scfc75 on Oct 9, 2012 18:22:43 GMT
Possession and passing stats are bollocks. Territory stats are a bit more telling - where you had the ball, not how long you had it for. People berate us for our 'style' (or lack of) but I find 30 pointless passes between defenders just as frustrating to watch as aimless hoofs. It's only attractive to watch when it creates chances.
Swansea knocking it between the back 4 like robots when 2-0 down and with ten minutes left was comical to watch the other week.
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Post by thicknthin on Oct 9, 2012 18:24:42 GMT
It's on now on LFCTV free if you have sky. Watch it again an see
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Post by biganddaft on Oct 9, 2012 18:27:08 GMT
See what?
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Post by onlyonesirstan on Oct 9, 2012 18:31:03 GMT
Can someone tell me the stats on the following, incase I am missing the point.
Where are Liverpool in the Premier League Table at the moment?
Where are Stoke City in the Premier League table at the moment?
As far as I am concerned that is the only stat I am interested in
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Post by gb on Oct 9, 2012 19:20:40 GMT
I think you will find that Stoke had more possession than Liverpool on sunday .
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Post by lfcred on Oct 9, 2012 21:38:53 GMT
I think you will find that Stoke had more possession than Liverpool on sunday . Those BBC stats havent been close to correct for years. Stoke had 36% of the ball |
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Post by march4 on Oct 9, 2012 21:48:25 GMT
I think you will find that Stoke had more possession than Liverpool on sunday . Those BBC stats havent been close to correct for years. Stoke had 36% of the ball And Swansea had 99.5% of possession against us the week before. As we often point out on this board, possession is just flattery, it is points that count and we took 4 off you last season without conceding a goal and will do the same this time round. |
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