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Post by discokaraoke on Sept 2, 2012 1:02:52 GMT
8.5 Saw his mistake and changed it early on, unlucky not to win. Absolute bullshit. Injury forced change around not tactics. His starting eleven went to grind out a 0 0 draw it just so happened we were absolute garbage during the first 30 mins and he had to make the sub so he had nothing to lose. Will he learn from it, I very much doubt it. Absolute bullshit. Pulis could have gone like for like when he subbed wilko but didn't. He completely changed the formation from 4 4 11 to 3 4 3 and went for it. To me that's tactics
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2012 1:05:22 GMT
Absolute bullshit. Injury forced change around not tactics. His starting eleven went to grind out a 0 0 draw it just so happened we were absolute garbage during the first 30 mins and he had to make the sub so he had nothing to lose. Will he learn from it, I very much doubt it. Absolute bullshit. Pulis could have gone like for like when he subbed wilko but didn't. He completely changed the formation from 4 4 11 to 3 4 3 and went for it. To me that's tactics How could he have gone like for like when we had what he had on the bench? ??? I suppose he could have bought Upson on and shifted Huth out there but that's just fuckwittery of the highest order.
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Post by discokaraoke on Sept 2, 2012 1:21:20 GMT
Absolute bullshit. Pulis could have gone like for like when he subbed wilko but didn't. He completely changed the formation from 4 4 11 to 3 4 3 and went for it. To me that's tactics How could he have gone like for like when we had what he had on the bench? ??? I suppose he could have bought Upson on and shifted Huth out there but that's just fuckwittery of the highest order. Correct! Could have done that or put edu on. He didn't, he brought adam on and changed to a formation under pulis i aint seen for yonks (stokie language for a long time) ;D
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2012 1:26:38 GMT
How could he have gone like for like when we had what he had on the bench? ??? I suppose he could have bought Upson on and shifted Huth out there but that's just fuckwittery of the highest order. Correct! Could have done that or put edu on. He didn't, he brought adam on and changed to a formation under pulis i aint seen for yonks (stokie language for a long time) ;D Both would have been incredibly stupid things to do! You haven't seen it ever like that me owd! Stokie term of endearment for someone who is older than me.
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Post by discokaraoke on Sept 2, 2012 1:44:08 GMT
Correct! Could have done that or put edu on. He didn't, he brought adam on and changed to a formation under pulis i aint seen for yonks (stokie language for a long time) ;D Both would have been incredibly stupid things to do! You haven't seen it ever like that me owd! Stokie term of endearment for someone who is older than me. Fair play owd But our manager has always been very rigid with his formations, it's 4411 or 442 regardless. My gripe is with the poster who said it was a forced substitution that changed the game and not tactics
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 2, 2012 1:52:57 GMT
Both would have been incredibly stupid things to do! You haven't seen it ever like that me owd! Stokie term of endearment for someone who is older than me. Fair play owd But our manager has always been very rigid with his formations, it's 4411 or 442 regardless. My gripe is with the poster who said it was a forced substitution that changed the game and not tactics He has but there was only one sub today he had to make today, granted he usually can't see what Stevie Wonder can but if he hadn't have bought Adam on today when he did I think we all would have exploded. ;D Didn't Wilko get injured which forced him to make a change? Yes he didn't have to make the correct but he did (thank fuck!). I was calling for Adam to be on as soon as we conceded! ;D
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Post by woodin43 on Sept 2, 2012 6:35:14 GMT
He was blasted for making the wrong sustitutions against Reading, so he should be praised for making the right ones against Wigan. 9.
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Post by offthewall on Sept 2, 2012 6:56:58 GMT
9
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Post by frasier99 on Sept 2, 2012 7:22:11 GMT
5 negative as fook at the start.....again
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Post by boothenendboy on Sept 2, 2012 10:17:04 GMT
4 the prick got it wrong again only made the change because the crowd were on his back
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Post by cousindupree on Sept 2, 2012 10:23:26 GMT
Odd starting line up but no surprise there. At some stage he was going to bring Adam on thats for sure, Adam was match fit, the surprise was that it was so soon, whether it was forced or a tactical switch is debatable. The real plus was giving it a real go towards the end rather than shut up shop like at Reading. Martinez normally has sussed out Pulis's one dimensional tactics but his team were hanging on yesterday. 8 from me as I also got the 2-2 draw at 16-1 with the bookies....a happy away day for a change
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Post by torquaypotter on Sept 2, 2012 10:30:32 GMT
5 - should of started the game with the tactics we ended with, it could of been 3 points instead of 1. 2 points dropped due to a severe lack of balls once again. The change was only made because Wilko got a bang to the head otherwise we would of seen it out until halftime. When Wilko went off he would not of dared to bring on another defender when we are trailing. Morally he had no choice but to go for it. Bet its being so happy that keeps you going eh .what have the team got to do to please you .The man cannot do right for wrong in your eyes
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Post by Godo on Sept 2, 2012 10:56:56 GMT
Good point against an in form team.
We looked more controlled once Wilko had gone off.
Thought we were lucky Beausejour went off.
Was perplexed by substitution of Kightly and wonder if we'd supplemented him with Pennant whether we'd have got all 3 pts but as we scored straight after the sub clearly Pulis is a tactical genius!
STILL need a left back as Wilson a definite weak link.
Pulis 6.5.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 2, 2012 15:24:33 GMT
2
Negative team selection, massive blind spot with full backs who were culpable for both goals, only changed it through injury.
Well done to the players for turning it around. Adam massive plus point.
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Post by sirblogalot on Sept 2, 2012 18:04:49 GMT
9 fer me. Should have been 3 points but for their keeper. Sick of hearing about wigan and fantasy football, I'd rather have 3 points thanks? Stats show we had twice as many shots on target.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 2, 2012 18:09:03 GMT
2 Negative team selection, massive blind spot with full backs who were culpable for both goals, only changed it through injury. Well done to the players for turning it around. Adam massive plus point. ;D ;D So the manager did nothing to turn it round then? Baffling.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 2, 2012 18:10:49 GMT
2 Negative team selection, massive blind spot with full backs who were culpable for both goals, only changed it through injury. Well done to the players for turning it around. Adam massive plus point. ;D ;D So the manager did nothing to turn it round then? Baffling. Shouldn't have made the mistakes in the first place. How a top flight manager makes so many errors in selection IS baffling.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 2, 2012 18:12:58 GMT
;D ;D So the manager did nothing to turn it round then? Baffling. Shouldn't have made the mistakes in the first place. How a top flight manager makes so many errors in selection IS baffling. He got it wrong and had the balls to change it, and should be given the credit he deserves.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2012 18:13:13 GMT
Has to be a 9 from me.
Great entertainment, and only came away with a draw due to their exceptional GK.
Once we're in to November, the wins will start to come thick and fast.
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Post by Pugsley on Sept 2, 2012 18:14:17 GMT
Shouldn't have made the mistakes in the first place. How a top flight manager makes so many errors in selection IS baffling. He got it wrong and had the balls to change it, and should be given the credit he deserves. Wrong again you mean.
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Post by boskampsflaps on Sept 2, 2012 18:16:06 GMT
He got it wrong and had the balls to change it, and should be given the credit he deserves. Wrong again you mean. Well so far hes kept us up season on season so if that's getting it wrong he's more than welcome to carry on.
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Post by jarhead on Sept 2, 2012 19:51:28 GMT
6
Killer starting 11,again he bottles it from the off to go for it and only the injury to wilko who was having a mare saved us from losing.
Adam different gravy just what we need but he has that clown next to him who couldnt pass water!
BELIEVE IN YOUR PLAYERS YOU PAID MILLIONS FOR CHRIST SAKE MAN!
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Post by fortressbritannia on Sept 2, 2012 20:17:20 GMT
8.5 Saw his mistake and changed it early on, unlucky not to win. Absolute bullshit. Injury forced change around not tactics. His starting eleven went to grind out a 0 0 draw it just so happened we were absolute garbage during the first 30 mins and he had to make the sub so he had nothing to lose. Will he learn from it, I very much doubt it. FFS give the guy some credit yes the injury to Wilkinson forced him to make the substitution however he knew things were not going right so rather then make a like for like substitution ie bring Shotton for Wilkinson he instead made in my opinion the right move my bringing on Adam and changing the system. Or am I not following the script because when we win matches, make it to cup finals, go on great European tours its always despite Pulis but when we lose its because of Pulis isn't it ??? It's a 7.5 from me got his tactics wrong at first fortunately injuries forced our hand but he made the right positive move bringing Adam on and from then on only one team looked like winning
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Post by jarhead on Sept 2, 2012 20:18:34 GMT
Dinosaur OUT
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Post by fazza90 on Sept 2, 2012 20:20:32 GMT
9 - Well done Pulis.
Very quickly saw that their tactics meant they were swamping us in midfield with that tricky little Maloney running the show. He changed our system around to counter their tactics and we were very unlucky to draw in the end with us having far more chances than them; they hit us on the counter attack as well as their keeper making a world class save. Very good away display apart from the first 15 minutes.
Some Stoke fans should be ashamed of themselves. There were a handful chanting "Walters off, Walters off!" despite him doing absolutely nothing wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 2, 2012 20:38:25 GMT
been reasonably supportive of TP but been really cheesed off with him for a while
I did not go the match, just listened to BBC radio Stoke commentary, so I kinda knew what was going on and I can't fault him, Wigan is a difficult place to go and they play exciting stuff with pace.
Maybe good fortune Wilko going off when he did
but to me its worth 10
well done TP
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Post by mermaidsal on Sept 3, 2012 13:14:32 GMT
Best away game i have seen for a long time without doubt, Not to happy with how we set up from kick off. Thought we where a bit unlucky with the pen, and that knocked us for a bit and were on the back foot has per normal. But then a stroke of luck. dicko has to come off. Pulis then changes the whole system and the rest has they say is history. Well done pulis for that. 8 for me. Dicko's a stalwart all the same... ;D ;D
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Post by thestatusquo on Sept 3, 2012 13:21:22 GMT
7. The injury to Wilko forced the change.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 13:33:17 GMT
He got it wrong and had the balls to change it, and should be given the credit he deserves. Wrong again you mean. so i presume (as you're giving the players the full 100% of credit for the performance here) that you think they were also 100% to blame for the Swindon game? or are you going to find a reason to blame that 100% on TP? i have no problem at all with people slating the manager when deserved but this pathetic hypocrisy of "When we win it's because of the players, when we lose it's TP's fault" is 100% childish, pathetic, transparent and the level of arguing i expect to see from my 8 year old daughter....very very sad really maybe, Puglsey...just maybe you should follow your own advice, be a bit more reasoned and admit you might have it wrong just every now and again as your tedious "Let's blame the manager for everything and everyone's failings rather than look at the bigger picture even when we play ok" ramblings are just showing to everyone that you have no balance to your ideas and are just venting constantly regardless of the outcome....TP could find a cure for cancer and you'd give the credit to vaccine for allowing itself to be found i don't mind the PHWs when they have a point; they tend to also accept the reverse viewpoint and can see sometimes he actually DOES get it right, just occasionally and are happy to accept that but you are just showing yourself up as one of the bitter lot who is just sitting waiting to say "I told you so" to everyone...boring mate!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 3, 2012 13:34:53 GMT
Absolute bullshit. Injury forced change around not tactics. His starting eleven went to grind out a 0 0 draw it just so happened we were absolute garbage during the first 30 mins and he had to make the sub so he had nothing to lose. Will he learn from it, I very much doubt it. FFS give the guy some credit yes the injury to Wilkinson forced him to make the substitution however he knew things were not going right so rather then make a like for like substitution ie bring Shotton for Wilkinson he instead made in my opinion the right move my bringing on Adam and changing the system. Or am I not following the script because when we win matches, make it to cup finals, go on great European tours its always despite Pulis but when we lose its because of Pulis isn't it ??? It's a 7.5 from me got his tactics wrong at first fortunately injuries forced our hand but he made the right positive move bringing Adam on and from then on only one team looked like winning wouldn't worry, Hackett's just still smarting from being made to look a dick on deadline day by none of his "Nailed on" signings coming after all
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