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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 18, 2012 21:16:26 GMT
Evening all.
I've been the match today and just thought I would have my say on the tactics.
Overall, it was pretty much the same as last year. No composure, can't pass and overall disappointing.
BUT after getting ourselves into a decent position, 1-0 up with 10 minutes to go, why on earth does Pulis decide to change the formation and personnel so drastically.
After the changes had been made, we said that if they were going to score, then it would come from down there right hand side as Wilson was struggling and Jerome was offering no real help. Sure enough if where we got into difficulty and how they won the penalty.
Why not keep Kightly & Etherington on? We were looking ok. If you want to replace them, why not keep the same shape that has worked effectively? Whether it be Ness on the left, after all he is a midfielder or Shotton as a last resort on the right.
Instead we changed to a 451 or 433 whatever we class it as. Once we changed we created problems as we had players not in natural positions. Jerome is not a left winger, up top or on the bench.
It seemed like we changed it for the sake of it and ultimately that cost us. I believe had we kept it pretty much the same, then we wold have walked away with the 3 points.
Also, saw Shawcross having a KFC at Warwick services on the way back.
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Post by jarhead on Aug 18, 2012 21:59:13 GMT
He thinks its clever and he thinks Delap is a footballer who can see a game out......yeah the fuckin ball when he has it!!!
Today was Pulis at his best throw a win away from a dire game which we just about tolerate until he does his master piece.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 18, 2012 22:01:24 GMT
Great post Dom, unfortunately bud nobody can answer your questions, we're all equally baffled
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Post by spongebobflathead on Aug 18, 2012 22:11:23 GMT
It's been stated on another thread that the substitutions give the initiative to our opponents .
Of course all teams make subs , it's just ours portray a negative mindset (when we are winning / drawing ) . As stated we would of done a lot better doing nothing or at least just swapped deano (which was blindingly obvious ) !
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Post by stokecitydom on Aug 19, 2012 9:57:35 GMT
It just seems pointless to change the formation. We already set up defensively, so to go more defensive is suicidal.
I think Pulis may think to himself that he has 3 strikers on, so it's not negative. But we basically switched to 5 midfielders (2 of which are forwards who are out of position).
We lost all shape in the last 10 minutes or whatever it was, that was because of the needless changes.
If its not broken then don't fix it. 1-0 up, reasonably comfortable, changes made and the rest is history.
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Post by march4 on Aug 19, 2012 9:59:54 GMT
It just seems pointless to change the formation. We already set up defensively, so to go more defensive is suicidal. I think Pulis may think to himself that he has 3 strikers on, so it's not negative. But we basically switched to 5 midfielders (2 of which are forwards who are out of position). We lost all shape in the last 10 minutes or whatever it was, that was because of the needless changes. If its not broken then don't fix it. 1-0 up, reasonably comfortable, changes made and the rest is history. I don't think anyone is going to argue with you, mate. Surely even TP can see he got it badly wrong.
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Post by pickins on Aug 19, 2012 10:08:20 GMT
TP wanted to shut the game down, that's why he made the changes. To do it at only 1 - 0 up against a newly promoted team, at home and on thier first game of the season is a dangerous game to play and it backfired, inviting pressure which lead to the goal. Luckily it cost us 2 points instead of 3. On the plus it happened against Reading & on day 1 of the season so that should be a lesson learnt.
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Post by Davef on Aug 19, 2012 10:12:37 GMT
Surely even TP can see he got it badly wrong. He won't consider for one minute that he got things wrong yesterday, especially when he's given the gift of what he considers to be a poor refereering decision to explain away the two lost points. These kind of tactical substitutions have been going on for years. They're par for the course.
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Post by delightedbear on Aug 19, 2012 11:06:51 GMT
I do wonder who he blames in the team talk after the match
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Post by march4 on Aug 19, 2012 11:08:08 GMT
Surely even TP can see he got it badly wrong. He won't consider for one minute that he got things wrong yesterday, especially when he's given the gift of what he considers to be a poor refereering decision to explain away the two lost points. These kind of tactical substitutions have been going on for years. They're par for the course. If someone has the time, I would love to know how many times late goals have cost us points.
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