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Post by riccyfuller93 on Aug 8, 2012 18:14:58 GMT
So far we have signed, Ness, Cameron and Kightly. Would you be happy if we were to start the season with just these signings or are you expecting more to come?
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Post by george2again on Aug 8, 2012 18:18:16 GMT
All squad players for me, No better than our first team and two of them untried at Prem level. No not happy we need solid Prem players and quick.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2012 18:50:03 GMT
Carn't comment on ness & cameron as i've never seen them play, kightly i've always liked, very attacking minded & at the brit last year looked very dangerous.
it all depends on how pulis plays them.
a fully fit palacious is basically a new signing.
would still like to see a striker sign, and either give the centre-mids more freedom or get in a creative mid that can still create in a pulis set-up
but as of now i'm liking the business we have done & how we have done it (i.e positions we have strenthend)
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Aug 8, 2012 18:50:30 GMT
All squad players for me, No better than our first team and two of them untried at Prem level. No not happy we need solid Prem players and quick. are you TP? why do we only need solid prem players? how do you know that cameron, kightly and ness wont become great players for us?
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Post by redwhite on Aug 8, 2012 18:51:22 GMT
If Ness and Cameron turn out to be top players then it would be a massive improvement as our central midfield is very weak. Hard to say as not only do I not know much about them, but I'm worried that if they do get picked, they'll be our left and right back pairing and won't be able to show their full potential. Kightly is no better than what we have IMO.
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Post by fca47 on Aug 8, 2012 18:57:49 GMT
It's great to know we have people on here who can judge the ability of players, so accurately, having never seen them play. They should offer their services to TP, they could save us a fortune in transfer fees and make the scouts redundant.
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Post by watcher on Aug 8, 2012 19:01:54 GMT
Good signings is they stay fit and cameron adjusts. Would be happier with another striker and left back though.
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Post by ed5993 on Aug 8, 2012 19:06:59 GMT
None of them are high profile signings, but all in key areas that needed strengthening and competition. Not a huge outlay of cash - let's see how they do! Never really rated Kightly previously, but he looked good end of last season.... he worked 'aaard which is a good sign
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Post by Binndy on Aug 8, 2012 19:16:27 GMT
I see next season as the ultimate season for stoke city in the PL with the rumoured several players in and out. Will stoke be a top 10 club with the new signing? or remain a lower table team. The quality of the incoming players will determine the future of the club. I have faith , but at the moment cameron and ness are unknown and we are not yet aware of the signings coming in over the next three weeks. im sure stoke city are wanting to put together a quality team.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 8, 2012 19:21:21 GMT
Lets face it we are paying the price of Tone pissing millions up the wall and still being left with an unbalanced squad. Kightly is ok should bring competition but is no better than what we have. Ness is untried but my Rangers supporting mates say he will be a very good player. cameron is an interesting one, sounds like he would make a great defensive midfield player, but you just know he'll end up at right back.
I would love to sign a quality left back and another striker. If Palcios gets fit and is in form, Pennant stops being an arse and Matty stops being scared of his own shadow we should have more than enough to have a good season. It also depends on Pulis being less negative and also Tone losing his obsession with the dog that chases the balloon.
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Post by stokemark on Aug 8, 2012 19:24:11 GMT
We have done nothing specifcally to address the goal drought
And bear in mind we have lost Fuller to boot
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Aug 8, 2012 19:26:19 GMT
We have done nothing specifcally to address the goal drought And bear in mind we have lost Fuller to boot i think that will be amended with better service to the strikers, although i do agree we could do with someone like that konate.
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Post by cousindupree on Aug 8, 2012 19:56:15 GMT
Its asking a heck of a lot of a player coming from the MLS and a young lad who has had a handful of games for a side in the SPL to come into a prem team and make a difference. I just can't see Tone starting Ness very oftem. Cameron as others have said is an interesting option and may well make the step up quickly. Lets just hope the manager gets the best out of him. Kightly is a very welcome addition to wide options and boy have we needed this. I just hope the manager rotates the wide players to keep them fresh rather than flog 2 out of 3 to death. In summary they will improve our squad but unlikley to improve our starting xi. So far so good. But if the manager is to remained fixated on the withdrawn striker role than for us to progress we need an upgrade of Walters
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Post by droz on Aug 8, 2012 21:00:58 GMT
None of these would slot straight into our first team, but are all upgrades on our bench/squad.
Ness > Soares, Diao (and Tonge if we were to get rid of him) Cameron > Davies, Woodgate Kightly > Mr. Nobody
I'd like to see us sign Boenisch and a forward with some pace who can score goals.
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Post by jwhpotter on Aug 8, 2012 21:25:53 GMT
That will be it until deadline day I reckon then we'll see a couple of big ins and outs
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Post by arniepieinthesky on Aug 9, 2012 6:54:01 GMT
Kightly - we have been bangin the 'we need back up for Jermaine and Ethers' drum for a while - well now we have it
Cameron - We can't judge, we aint seen him play - Looks very strong and athletic, most yanks seem to fit in with the English style of play.
Ness - Again, who knows? If he has what it takes, at 21 on a free great!
Business so far, 3m spent, decent 3rd winger in, possible decent recruit in Ness, and can Cameron be any worse than Woodgate? No fuckin chance.....so good window thus far.
I guess there will be a little more to come, as some players leave.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Aug 9, 2012 7:04:16 GMT
Kightly - Everyone's comparing him to Ethers and JP. I'm comparing him to Shotton who seemed to be TPs first choice a lot last season especially away. so will be big big improvement.
Ness - Good reports. One for the future.
Cameron - This guy excites me from what I've seen and read. Given the right chance could be a great signing.
If we could get Lukaku and Boesnich and just lose KJ I think we'd be OK till January with the time we'd have left.
I'd like someone proven in like NZonzi or Olsson but that would be greedy.
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Post by geoffscott on Aug 9, 2012 7:13:53 GMT
No problem with the 3 players we have signed / are signing, though I doubt we will see much of Ness.
I would be over the moon if we signed two full backs.
Apart from that I think we have the right depth of squad to match the managers ambition and there should be no excuses for not finishing mid table.
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Post by Danstoke82 on Aug 9, 2012 7:17:39 GMT
Its great to see the club finally making early moves in the window for new signings.
Kightly is a great addition as now we finally have another option for the wing positions instead of Shotton or Delap playing there (hopefully).
I reckon theres some more to come soon, who I have no idea though. Im excited about the upcoming season, especially the unknown quality that Cameron may possess.
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Post by stokhe on Aug 9, 2012 7:29:25 GMT
there will be more.
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Post by j3st3r on Aug 9, 2012 8:00:12 GMT
I think that the additional of Boesnich and then a big money splash on a decent striker (no im not includng Owen in that) + a fully fit Palacios and I'd be very happy with this windows deals assuming we dont lose any key players. All this is yet to be proven, but less square pegs, more quality in midfield, more attacking threat and cover for the flanks is what most of us have been crying out for....
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Post by foster on Aug 9, 2012 8:24:59 GMT
Very happy tbh with the signings so far. If rumours are to be believed I'd be really pleased with a FB, a striker and any other. Preferable the striker or any other being a rock the city signing.
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Post by Plave on Aug 9, 2012 8:26:15 GMT
Very happy with Kightly, we needed a player to keep Pennant and Ethers on top of their game (and I don't think he's better than either of them) and a player that would replace Shotton/Delap on the wings as another option so he's a huge improvement for us.
Cameron I've seen nothing of but generally the US players who've come over here have done well and he is very highly rated, as a potential replacement for Shotton/Wilko/Woodgate/Delap/Diao depending on where he needs to be then again he's a huge improvement for us.
Ness I've seen nothing of but again can he offer less than Tonge/Diao/Delap does to the squad?
Boesnich or any decent left back (I certainly won't argue with an international on a free) will improve us as we all know, that position is a massive weakness for us.
I personally don't see a need for a big money splash on a striker, Crouch is more than capable of getting the goals if he gets the kind of service that we should be able to offer with better shape and a more inform threat from the wings.
As for the outs, I don't see Fuller as a loss if I look at it coldy, he's been immense for us but clearly when he did play last year he showed he's not up the level we need to be at now.
As for others, I'd still like to see a proper right back, I'm quite excited about a fit Palacios getting back to his best whoever plays alongside him and I know I'm in a huge minority here but I'd love to see us sign Michael Owen on a pay as you play. He is the finest English finisher of his generation and in his Man Utd cameos this last few years has shown he still has that ability, sure he doesn't fit the second striker/midfield road that Walters plays but I would hope that having that kind of quality shows an intent for us not to play that way so often.
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Post by stokesupporter on Aug 9, 2012 8:29:03 GMT
These all look very good signings to me, for the money we've paid for them.
There will be more signings though before 31st.
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Post by metalhead on Aug 9, 2012 9:30:34 GMT
Ness looks like a real talent to me, good, talented, young central midfielder (loan to Barnsley on the cards anyone ? lol)
I spoke to someone who quite faithfully follows the MLS and he says Cameron is a cracking player in MLS and deserves a shot at English football. He is a good passer and is a proper old fashioned battler who gets stuck in, so I'm quite happy for him to be here. Also, from what I read he'll be a useful utility player, he can play left back, centre back, left mid, centre mid, defensive mid, apparently very versatile.
I'm not sure about Kightly yet. I'll give him a few weeks to prove himself but there weren't many players in Wolves team who impressed me last year and Kightly wasn't one of them.
Boesnich is an international footballer on a free. No complaints there!
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Post by magicmanfuller on Aug 9, 2012 9:33:39 GMT
Very happy with Kightly, we needed a player to keep Pennant and Ethers on top of their game (and I don't think he's better than either of them) and a player that would replace Shotton/Delap on the wings as another option so he's a huge improvement for us. Cameron I've seen nothing of but generally the US players who've come over here have done well and he is very highly rated, as a potential replacement for Shotton/Wilko/Woodgate/Delap/Diao depending on where he needs to be then again he's a huge improvement for us. Ness I've seen nothing of but again can he offer less than Tonge/Diao/Delap does to the squad? Boesnich or any decent left back (I certainly won't argue with an international on a free) will improve us as we all know, that position is a massive weakness for us. I personally don't see a need for a big money splash on a striker, Crouch is more than capable of getting the goals if he gets the kind of service that we should be able to offer with better shape and a more inform threat from the wings. As for the outs, I don't see Fuller as a loss if I look at it coldy, he's been immense for us but clearly when he did play last year he showed he's not up the level we need to be at now. As for others, I'd still like to see a proper right back, I'm quite excited about a fit Palacios getting back to his best whoever plays alongside him and I know I'm in a huge minority here but I'd love to see us sign Michael Owen on a pay as you play. He is the finest English finisher of his generation and in his Man Utd cameos this last few years has shown he still has that ability, sure he doesn't fit the second striker/midfield road that Walters plays but I would hope that having that kind of quality shows an intent for us not to play that way so often. Agree with all of that
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 9, 2012 9:38:38 GMT
so far with the ins and outs our squad has improved significantly with just these 3. Very happy, so far.
But we need to keep going, left back, right back is certainly needed. Then we need a good attacking player. Don't mind whether it is a forward or an attacking mid like jarvis, but i think we need someone else. If jones goes, we need to replace him.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Aug 9, 2012 9:53:34 GMT
3 Signings is ok,if they are good enough to play in the Prem.in their proper positions. We realy do need 2 full backs and a 10/12 goals a season forward to play along sides Crouch.
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Post by borat on Aug 9, 2012 10:03:49 GMT
Considering we are not spending big this summer I'm very pleased with the signings so far. We have a great squad and hopefully we'll add a couple of more decent additions.
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Post by Stokieson on Aug 9, 2012 10:12:40 GMT
All very astute signings so far. Kightly will help address the goal drought because competition for the wnigers should improve their form and mean we create more chances in games (which we are in dire need of). It's great to hear TP imply that Ethers and Pennant are both staying, and calling them "our two wingers" without any of this bollocks about Shotton being a winger.
I'm also very encouraged that we're looking at Boenisch; even if we don't sign him, it's pleasing to see a genuine full back under consideration, and that Pulis has spotted the opportunity and is assessing whether it's worth following up or not. Players under 30 and dipping into foreign markets - this has been a big step up in Pulis's transfer activity in my book. The next priority has to be to sign someone to replace the flair we've lost with Fuller's parting.
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