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Post by meirmortal on Jun 27, 2012 16:15:06 GMT
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 27, 2012 17:26:17 GMT
It's all gonna kick off again ! Fasten your seatbelts folks
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Post by heavysoul on Jun 27, 2012 17:31:56 GMT
looks interesting. Might go and check it out would like to understand more about the religion.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jun 27, 2012 18:49:47 GMT
If there isn't any Pork pies,I wont bother going.  |
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Post by brownedgestokie on Jun 27, 2012 20:10:43 GMT
Did you know…
The first modern hospital was built in Baghdad over a thousand years ago?
Persian scholars developed the foundations for modern algebra and algorithms?
We get the word "camera" from the Arab word "qamara"?
Inoculation was written about in 8th century India, long before it gained popularity in Europe?
In the 10th century, a Persian surgeon invented many of the surgical tools we still use today?
An engineer from Mesopotamia developed the camshaft along with other commonly used machines?
By the year 644, Persians were using windmills to manage their water supply?
A man in Cordoba took flight over a millennium before the Wright brothers were born?
A 10th century Persian surgeon used catgut for internal stitches?
A 13th century Arab doctor described the circulatory system 300 years before William Harvey
I'm attending on this ground breaking news alone, don't they realise without our massive benefit system the majority would have to fuck off back from where they come from.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 20:17:38 GMT
The Good Stuff in the Quran: A summary
In yesterday's post, I compared the amount of good stuff in the Bible to that in the Quran and found that about 1% of the verses in each are (at least what I would call) good.
But what are the good things in the Quran? Here's a summary.
Pay the poor due.
2:43, 83, 110, 277; 5:55; 7:156; 9:18, 71; 22:41, 78; 23:4; 24:37, 56; 31:4; 58:13; 73:20; 98:5
Help the poor and less fortunate.
2:83, 177, 215, 220; 4:2, 10, 36; 5:89; 17:26, 34; 22:28; 30:38, 51:19; 90:12-17; 93:9-10
Be kind to your parents and relatives.
2:83; 4:36; 6:151; 9:60; 16:90; 17:23, 26; 29:8; 30:38; 42:23; 46:15
Seek the truth. Don't lie.
2:42, 111, 113; 3:66; 6:152; 17:36; 20:114; 22:30; 53:28
Value justice.
4:135; 6:152; 22:41; 42:42
Treat women fairly.
3:195, 4:25; 9:71; 30:21
Free the slaves.
2:177; 5:89; 90:12-17
Be tolerant toward other religions. Don't force your religion on others.
2:256; 43:88-89; 109:1,6
Don't steal from orphans.
4:2, 10; 17:34
Do good.
2:195; 4:85
Seek peace.
4:114; 8:61
Don't lend money at unfair rates of interest.
3:130; 4:161
Treat everyone fairly.
3:195, 5:8
Don't kill innocent people.
4:29, 5:32
Be kind to one another.
49:11-12; 90:12-17
Fight evil by with good.
28:54; 41:34
Don't kill your children.
6:151; 17:31
Don't fight wars of aggression.
2:190
Don't hate people.
5:8
Forgive others.
7:199
(The total doesn't work out to the number on the Good Stuff list since some verses are listed more than once.)
Let me know if there are any that I've left out and I'll add them to this list and highlight them at the SAQ.
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 27, 2012 20:21:39 GMT
Just like the majority of us live our lives mate , don't come on here to lecture us with your bullshit
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 20:21:59 GMT
It pains me to say it being born and bred in Stoke -On-Trent, but Im glad I don't live there anymore much as I still love it  |
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Post by brownedgestokie on Jun 27, 2012 20:28:10 GMT
I have just returned from my holiday from a foreign country to the one I was born.
1. I never once felt the need to educate them on my own beliefs
End of conversation.
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Jun 27, 2012 20:32:02 GMT
Religion does my fucking head in. Wether its Christianity, Islam, Hindu or whatever, its all bullshit.
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Post by sorethumbs on Jun 27, 2012 20:43:31 GMT
Religion does my fucking head in. Wether its Christianity, Islam, Hindu or whatever, its all bullshit. Couldn't agree any more. In fact, fuck John Lennon - I always imagine how much better the world would be without religions' utter bollocks. Religion = Hope for thick people. Just an opinion. Sent from my GT-I9100 using ProBoards |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 20:49:12 GMT
Religion does my fucking head in. Wether its Christianity, Islam, Hindu or whatever, its all bullshit. My Auntie Rose (god bless her) was a true believer on God, she did charity work at convert hall in Stafford, and attended every Sunday, a very kind lady, she did not smoke or drink unlike others in the family and yet was struck down with cancer in 2007, 12 months later she was dead and buried in Stone Cemetry. The age of the Internet has changed peoples view on religion nowadays, but the old school like my mum and dad still find it comforting, even though they are 77 and 79. so i would say you are incorrect.  |
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Post by harryburrows on Jun 27, 2012 21:01:01 GMT
Religion does my fucking head in. Wether its Christianity, Islam, Hindu or whatever, its all bullshit. My Auntie Rose (god bless her) was a true believer on God, she did charity work at convert hall in Stafford, and attended every Sunday, a very kind lady, she did not smoke or drink unlike others in the family and yet was struck down with cancer in 2007, 12 months later she was dead and buried in Stone Cemetry. The age of the Internet has changed peoples view on religion nowadays, but the old school like my mum and dad still find it comforting, even though they are 77 and 79. so i would say you are incorrect. My parents were both devout Catholics , they were great people , kind ,and humble folk ,also very private in their beliefs ,thats faith . It should stay private |
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Jun 27, 2012 21:10:44 GMT
Religion does my fucking head in. Wether its Christianity, Islam, Hindu or whatever, its all bullshit. My Auntie Rose (god bless her) was a true believer on God, she did charity work at convert hall in Stafford, and attended every Sunday, a very kind lady, she did not smoke or drink unlike others in the family and yet was struck down with cancer in 2007, 12 months later she was dead and buried in Stone Cemetry. The age of the Internet has changed peoples view on religion nowadays, but the old school like my mum and dad still find it comforting, even though they are 77 and 79. so i would say you are incorrect. Im sorry and i know its each to their own , but religion does more harm than good. |
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Post by frasier99 on Jun 27, 2012 21:15:36 GMT
you are probably right wheeze but, it really shouldn't do it's not the religions that are bad, just some of the evil bastards hiding behind it and using it to control the gullible... imo anyway |
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Post by frogs_carer on Jun 27, 2012 21:47:13 GMT
Religion is all about who has the biggest imaginary friend.
It's wank
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Post by oldgit57 on Jun 27, 2012 22:15:58 GMT
Nowt wrong with a bit of tolerance is there, I'm not hugely into religion of any sort for my own reasons, but hey if it rocks ya boat! And if that involves an exhibition, thats cool too, nobody is being forced to attend are they?
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Post by Beardy200 on Jun 27, 2012 22:21:15 GMT
Nowt wrong with a bit of tolerance is there, I'm not hugely into religion of any sort for my own reasons, but hey if it rocks ya boat! And if that involves an exhibition, thats cool too, nobody is being forced to attend are they? Just the women probably |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 22:29:30 GMT
Religion does my fucking head in. Wether its Christianity, Islam, Hindu or whatever, its all bullshit. My Auntie Rose (god bless her) was a true believer on God, she did charity work at convert hall in Stafford, and attended every Sunday, a very kind lady, she did not smoke or drink unlike others in the family and yet was struck down with cancer in 2007, 12 months later she was dead and buried in Stone Cemetry. The age of the Internet has changed peoples view on religion nowadays, but the old school like my mum and dad still find it comforting, even though they are 77 and 79. so i would say you are incorrect. Mate it's all about individual choice, I honestly wish I could believe in something that strongly , but I can't , but if people take comfort in their gods good luck to them and carry on, but sadly religions of all beliefs seem to be responsible for all or most of the strife in the world and I think it's always been so |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2012 22:33:40 GMT
Harry Burrows .... Absolutely spot on , sums the whole thing up , it's a private thing ...and that's the best way nobody has to justify what they believe in  |
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Post by tijuanabrass on Jun 28, 2012 5:27:35 GMT
I clicked through and watched the video. For those who didn't it was a bunch of talking heads telling us what a good idea this exhibition was. A cross section of Stoke people with Mama at the top. Some looked like taxi drivers, some like businessmen and some like lads on the street corner. There was a few that didn't sound overly eloquent (including the narrator) and others that were educated and well spoken. There was a large-framed chap called Biggie or Bigs that was going to be on holiday in Jamaica so wouldn't be going to the exhibition. There was a light-skinned non-Muslim lady who had a lot of Muslim friends and kept a copy of the Quran at home.
Unfortunately there were no Muslim ladies interviewed. It also didn't tell us what kind of things to expect at the exhibition, though maybe that's on the web page somewhere.
There you go. You don't need to watch it now.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 9:39:24 GMT
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Post by Mr Wheeze on Jun 28, 2012 9:48:58 GMT
I love those preachers they have in America and that feature on God TV and the like. They stand on a stage in front an auditorum full of yanks. I was watching one a while back who was an English bloke aged about 30. He was ranting and raving (and pissing of sweat!) about God and walking up to these Americans, putting his hand on their heads and shouting "the power of the lord is in you!" and all these yanks were fainting and dropping like flies! Mad as fuck! |
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Post by frasier99 on Jun 28, 2012 10:36:06 GMT
there are a lot of bad people involved in good things, and manipulating the purpose of religion.
don't let nutters turn you against religious beliefs
i believe in God but, not the rammed down your throat stuff from a lot of them
for me the koran is, in the main, a book for doing good but, it is twisted and forced down your throats by many aggressive imams with hatred for any other religion
of course the same can be said with a lot of christian, catholic etc, but not so aggressively imo
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Post by mermaidsal on Jun 28, 2012 12:34:35 GMT
there are a lot of bad people involved in good things, and manipulating the purpose of religion. don't let nutters turn you against religious beliefs i believe in God but, not the rammed down your throat stuff from a lot of them for me the koran is, in the main, a book for doing good but, it is twisted and forced down your throats by many aggressive imams with hatred for any other religion of course the same can be said with a lot of christian, catholic etc, but not so aggressively imo fraise?? Talking gentle good sense?? wtf is happening here? I'm really interested in the exhibition because if you believe Stoke's got a future, this is a big part of it - the brightest and best and the snobs pissed off to live and work somewhere else, here are people who actually want to make a go of round here, why wouldn't you listen?? |
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Post by Panda on Jun 28, 2012 12:59:34 GMT
I'll be going-just as I will to Armed Forces day. Somebody is promoting what is good about their religion,not what is bad. In other words-look we are not all bad-not tar us with the same brush. Don't always believe what you read in the Sun or the Daily Mail-come and talk and see how much we have in common. Though I don't expect many on here to go. |
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Post by frasier99 on Jun 28, 2012 13:14:19 GMT
there are a lot of bad people involved in good things, and manipulating the purpose of religion. don't let nutters turn you against religious beliefs i believe in God but, not the rammed down your throat stuff from a lot of them for me the koran is, in the main, a book for doing good but, it is twisted and forced down your throats by many aggressive imams with hatred for any other religion of course the same can be said with a lot of christian, catholic etc, but not so aggressively imo fraise?? Talking gentle good sense?? wtf is happening here? I'm really interested in the exhibition because if you believe Stoke's got a future, this is a big part of it - the brightest and best and the snobs pissed off to live and work somewhere else, here are people who actually want to make a go of round here, why wouldn't you listen?? Neh, it's not me Sal, i'm a bad'n ;D |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2012 13:19:45 GMT
The issue I have is when people profit out of the natural fear of the unknown i.e. what happens after death. Biggest example of this is the Harold Camping guy who claimed to have predicted the rapture early last year - his company, who did it through donations is worth around £70m! It's ridiculous. People who genuinely believed it had depression problems and phone lines were opened in america to deal with the aftermath because it didn't happen.
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Post by kinetic on Jun 28, 2012 13:22:09 GMT
The Good Stuff in the Quran: A summary In yesterday's post, I compared the amount of good stuff in the Bible to that in the Quran and found that about 1% of the verses in each are (at least what I would call) good. But what are the good things in the Quran? Here's a summary. Pay the poor due. 2:43, 83, 110, 277; 5:55; 7:156; 9:18, 71; 22:41, 78; 23:4; 24:37, 56; 31:4; 58:13; 73:20; 98:5 Help the poor and less fortunate. 2:83, 177, 215, 220; 4:2, 10, 36; 5:89; 17:26, 34; 22:28; 30:38, 51:19; 90:12-17; 93:9-10 Be kind to your parents and relatives. 2:83; 4:36; 6:151; 9:60; 16:90; 17:23, 26; 29:8; 30:38; 42:23; 46:15 Seek the truth. Don't lie. 2:42, 111, 113; 3:66; 6:152; 17:36; 20:114; 22:30; 53:28 Value justice. 4:135; 6:152; 22:41; 42:42 Treat women fairly. 3:195, 4:25; 9:71; 30:21 Free the slaves. 2:177; 5:89; 90:12-17 Be tolerant toward other religions. Don't force your religion on others. 2:256; 43:88-89; 109:1,6 Don't steal from orphans. 4:2, 10; 17:34 Do good. 2:195; 4:85 Seek peace. 4:114; 8:61 Don't lend money at unfair rates of interest. 3:130; 4:161 Treat everyone fairly. 3:195, 5:8 Don't kill innocent people. 4:29, 5:32 Be kind to one another. 49:11-12; 90:12-17 Fight evil by with good. 28:54; 41:34 Don't kill your children. 6:151; 17:31 Don't fight wars of aggression. 2:190 Don't hate people. 5:8 Forgive others. 7:199 (The total doesn't work out to the number on the Good Stuff list since some verses are listed more than once.) Let me know if there are any that I've left out and I'll add them to this list and highlight them at the SAQ. All good stuff just that one about free the slaves has me a bit puzzled seems a bit contradictory aint that what you have to become to follow any of the good books. |
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Post by pittshillplotter on Jun 28, 2012 19:40:03 GMT
Sounds good , but too far to go in a day...
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