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Post by lloyd86 on Jun 15, 2012 10:59:08 GMT
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on Jun 15, 2012 11:04:32 GMT
Last season has gone...we're still in the top flight comfortably, we need to improve - but lets look forward.
Good article though.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 15, 2012 11:09:41 GMT
Good article that.
Does he post on here?
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Post by lloyd86 on Jun 15, 2012 11:10:14 GMT
it is best to look forward as so many of us still think negative towards TP and the way he works, (including me) and it really winds me up. But lets hope he is looking to push top 10 this next season with not having the Europa league on our hands. Get Jerome started a lot more as his pace alone will create things, 2 decent wingers every game if possible and an attacking midfield.
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Post by lloyd86 on Jun 15, 2012 11:11:40 GMT
im not sure foxygloves TBH as im on here everyday looking at the threads in the Stoke City FC section but never post much myself. i think i would get myself more wound up than i do already as we all talk negative. But it cant be helped. lol
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Post by dozintheseventees on Jun 15, 2012 11:13:29 GMT
Mostly very valid comments IMO but I don't think we would have done any better last season with KJ instead of Crouch. It can't be proved either way.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 15, 2012 11:16:19 GMT
Mostly very valid comments IMO but I don't think we would have done any better last season with KJ instead of Crouch. It can't be proved either way. With an in-form, hungry and mentally right Jones we would have. The problem is I think that Jones only exists in the sense that UFO's and ghosts do. Some of us claim to have seen it, some of us think we have seen it but none of us can actually prove it!!!! |
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Post by tuum on Jun 15, 2012 11:22:45 GMT
I think I agree with practically every point of that article.
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Post by Godo on Jun 15, 2012 11:30:40 GMT
Yes let's look forward - there's no point in harping on about the past with a flexible, adaptable, tactically astute, listening manager like Mr Pulis in charge is there?
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Post by northstokie on Jun 15, 2012 11:33:03 GMT
Good article that. Does he post on here? I do indeed  |
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 15, 2012 11:36:29 GMT
Good article that. Does he post on here? I do indeed Good article mate. Fair play. Somehow managed to miss your articles before....have bookmarked the page now!!!! |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jun 15, 2012 11:36:37 GMT
The Woodgate/Huth idiocy is spot on.
The Crouch bit is just regurgitated boring bollocks
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Post by RAF on Jun 15, 2012 11:39:12 GMT
The Woodgate/Huth idiocy is spot on. The Crouch bit is just regurgitated boring bollocks I've got vomit in my mouth while typing this but I agree totally. H |
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Post by northstokie on Jun 15, 2012 11:55:16 GMT
Thanks for all the feedback, it IS regurgitated as I've been harping on about the themes for months, I just thought the timing was right for a bit of a reminder given the Owen rumours and some people thinking everything is going to change.
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Post by Northy on Jun 15, 2012 12:04:47 GMT
The Woodgate/Huth idiocy is spot on. The Crouch bit is just regurgitated boring bollocks agree, and our lack of fit and in form wingers last season were a major factor in the forward play; the defence well, that was TP at his most blindingly stubborn stupidness |
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Post by frasier99 on Jun 15, 2012 12:09:45 GMT
Very good piece that and very true please send it to Mr Coates  |
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Post by northstokie on Jun 15, 2012 12:11:23 GMT
Even when Pennant was given 20 mins he looked sharp but he'd pick the ball up on the halfway line and be surrounded by 3 defenders with zero movement in front of him. New ingredients for the same dish aren't going to make that any better.
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Post by northstokie on Jun 15, 2012 12:15:53 GMT
Very good piece that and very true please send it to Mr Coates John Coates told me he is a regular reader so there is hope... |
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Post by SCFC92 on Jun 15, 2012 12:28:24 GMT
I wouldn't call that negative just evaluative....
However I don't agree too much with the Crouch comments, I believe a player who scored 14 goals in that shower of attacking shite last season did extremely well. We should be shaping our team around players like Crouch Palacios etc.
Get the full backs overlapping and wingers going forward and you can add another 10 to Crouchy's tally. £18 Million spent and we are still hoofing.. CRIMINAL!
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Post by northstokie on Jun 15, 2012 12:32:33 GMT
Absolutely agree Ollie, if we did that then his lack of pace wouldn't be an issue but it's unlikely things will change which is why I query signing a player we can't get the best out of
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Post by Etain Tur-Mukan on Jun 15, 2012 12:47:26 GMT
Agreed about Woodgate. The Crouch bit is a load of old Vale turd though.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 13:15:11 GMT
Good article,well written.
As others have said though i'm still not sure i agree with the Crouch theory and don't see a great deal of difference in us having KJ up there,you say it needs someone up there with pace for it to work but i can't recall seeing too much of KJ showing great bursts of pace in his Stoke career to date.
For me Crouch can do everything that KJ can do on a football pitch but much better.
What i would say though is whether you agree with the Crouch theory or not,that article certainly does highlight some of our managers major faults and doesn't paint him in a very good light.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jun 15, 2012 13:41:58 GMT
Good article,well written. As others have said though i'm still not sure i agree with the Crouch theory and don't see a great deal of difference in us having KJ up there,you say it needs someone up there with pace for it to work but i can't recall seeing too much of KJ showing great bursts of pace in his Stoke career to date. For me Crouch can do everything that KJ can do on a football pitch but much better. What i would say though is whether you agree with the Crouch theory or not,that article certainly does highlight some of our managers major faults and doesn't paint him in a very good light. Surely it's not really about Crouch or Jones. It's more about the failure to replace Fuller with someone who has both the pace and the nous to do the job Pulis demands. I'd have thought its fairly clear he isn't slating Crouch merely pointng out that we use him in the wrong way. If Pulis could bring himself to play a conventional two up top and play a pacy, powerful player alongside Crouch we might well see a very different Stoke. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 15:17:15 GMT
The system may well have killed the season but that wasn't Crouch's fault,he had a good season when you consider the crap service he got |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 15, 2012 15:25:07 GMT
Its high time someone began to take the blinkers off the Pulis lovers on here.
Excellent post. I think Crouch did well in a bad system, but our total inability to supply through balls or crosses was criminal,
The defence was the joke of the season , fortress Britannia became a help yourself buffet and most filled their appetite.
Next season is another year and a fresh start, however if lessons are not learned, and lets be honest they wont be Stoke are in for a rough ride, every other manager in the premier is planning 4 points from Stoke minimum even the new boys.
How many of the 38 games do you seriously think we can win 5 , 6 maybe at home 1, 2 away perhaps, As posted on another thread the divide between the leagues is growing and were sailing the Titanic.
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