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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jun 7, 2012 20:03:59 GMT
Adam Johnson every day over Downing.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jun 7, 2012 21:01:55 GMT
Stoke tinted specs time again. Downing's no world beater but he's better than Etherington. I think most of the people on here are just thinking about last season because of how poor Downing was. Downing 2 or 3 years ago onwards, was a lot better than Etherington.
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Post by mistersausage on Jun 7, 2012 21:04:18 GMT
Stoke tinted specs time again. Downing's no world beater but he's better than Etherington. I think most of the people on here are just thinking about last season because of how poor Downing was. Downing 2 or 3 years ago onwards, was a lot better than Etherington. But if he's as he was last season he's no better.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jun 7, 2012 21:09:03 GMT
I think most of the people on here are just thinking about last season because of how poor Downing was. Downing 2 or 3 years ago onwards, was a lot better than Etherington. But if he's as he was last season he's no better. Agreed, but we know what quality he has, should he play to his best or should he have stayed at villa even.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 7, 2012 21:15:45 GMT
Stoke tinted specs time again. Downing's no world beater but he's better than Etherington. I think most of the people on here are just thinking about last season because of how poor Downing was. Downing 2 or 3 years ago onwards, was a lot better than Etherington. But it's 2012 not 2009. His form 3 years ago is irrelevant.
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Post by mattythestokie on Jun 7, 2012 21:31:58 GMT
I think most of the people on here are just thinking about last season because of how poor Downing was. Downing 2 or 3 years ago onwards, was a lot better than Etherington. But it's 2012 not 2009. His form 3 years ago is irrelevant. Which is why i never said that he was better than him now.
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Post by Pugsley on Jun 7, 2012 21:33:55 GMT
Downing has been picked because he can offer more going backwards.
This is the sad state of affairs that is English football. Where coaching attacking football is viewed as the work of the devil and destroying will put 10's of millions of pounds into clubs' coffers.
England are going into the tournament not to lose - other nations are going in to win.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 7, 2012 21:36:47 GMT
He probably is based on this season (both have been toss mind) but if I had to pick one I'd go for Matty all day long. I hate Downing with a passion, dross player.
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Post by estrangedsonoffaye on Jun 7, 2012 21:37:44 GMT
But it's 2012 not 2009. His form 3 years ago is irrelevant. Which is why i never said that he was better than him now. Then we have reinforced the point ;D
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Post by ColonelMustard on Jun 7, 2012 21:53:36 GMT
He probably is based on this season (both have been toss mind) but if I had to pick one I'd go for Matty all day long. I hate Downing with a passion, dross player. I'm with you. I like nothing about the over rated ,nancy minded bottler.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 2:01:11 GMT
Matty all day long, he's a better crosser , tracks back just as well , just as much pace , better dead ball delivery, an all round better player however his confidence is low but a call up may have just triggered his form back to life. His form last season was not brill but this could have been the spark but another big club average player gets the nod, same for Ashley Young better than Matty I dunna think so headless chicken come to mind with him, the only guy I rate along side Matty is Adam Johnson quality player who I think should be in the squad just ahead of Matty. But once again big club no talent big time charlies get in less popular hungry players left out. New manager same old shite.....
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 13:40:20 GMT
Downing has been picked because he can offer more going backwards. This is the sad state of affairs that is English football. Where coaching attacking football is viewed as the work of the devil and destroying will put 10's of millions of pounds into clubs' coffers. England are going into the tournament not to lose - other nations are going in to win. noth to do with English football to be fair...nowadays to be a quality full back at international level you have to have ability going forwards and overlapping your wingers and therefore the winger has to have some ability in being able to cover the full back "Bombing on"..not that strange or difficult to comprehend and happens in all international football not just England
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