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Post by numpty40 on May 27, 2012 19:14:23 GMT
really enjoyed today's play off game. No theatrical diving, very little whinging at the ref, no rolling on the ground clutching an ankle/knee and no waving imaginary cards.
It was like football should/used to be.
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Post by potterglen on May 27, 2012 19:16:29 GMT
+1
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Post by march4 on May 27, 2012 19:17:23 GMT
really enjoyed today's play off game. No theatrical diving, very little whinging at the ref, no rolling on the ground clutching an ankle/knee and no waving imaginary cards. It was like football should/used to be. Totally agree. Fitness levels for Cheltenham cost them in the end, although I suppose teams were less fit in the past (weren't they?). |
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Post by bunnyscfc on May 27, 2012 19:50:27 GMT
that's why I won't be as suicidal as some if we ever do return there.
Cheap prices, terraces, players you can relate to (although in fairness most of Stoke's are sound), pubs near proper grounds etc etc
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Post by stokiedj on May 27, 2012 21:41:21 GMT
Said the same earlier, was also good to see the ref wanting to let the gsme flow instead of the big time charlies in the prem, was good to see him allowing a drinks break too. You only have to see what w*****s we have in our league when howard webb booked that player tonight in soccer aid for kicking the ball away!!
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Post by manchesterpotter on May 27, 2012 21:53:54 GMT
that's why I won't be as suicidal as some if we ever do return there. Cheap prices, terraces, players you can relate to (although in fairness most of Stoke's are sound), pubs near proper grounds etc etc Completely agreed, Bunny. Having started to do the 92 earlier this year, I've watched a fair bit of lower league nogger this last few months. Although being in the Prem's brilliant, it wouldn't really arse me if we went down in the near future. As long as our team is still operating and we have players/managers/ wins/draws/losses to praise/hate/love, then I'm a happy chappy. Don't care if it's against Man Utd at Old Trafford or fucking Southend at Roots Hall, I'm supporting the mighty Potters. |
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Post by tuum on May 28, 2012 6:12:19 GMT
that's why I won't be as suicidal as some if we ever do return there. Cheap prices, terraces, players you can relate to (although in fairness most of Stoke's are sound), pubs near proper grounds etc etc Completely agreed, Bunny. Having started to do the 92 earlier this year, I've watched a fair bit of lower league nogger this last few months. Although being in the Prem's brilliant, it wouldn't really arse me if we went down in the near future. As long as our team is still operating and we have players/managers/ wins/draws/losses to praise/hate/love, then I'm a happy chappy. Don't care if it's against Man Utd at Old Trafford or fucking Southend at Roots Hall, I'm supporting the mighty Potters. I think there may be a small club forming here. I am of the same opinion. I want to Stoke to play at the very highest level that they possibly can but when all is said and done there are positives to be had if we were to fall from grace. The Premier League is over-hyped and run on greed by men with no interest whatsoever in the bigger picture. I doubt that I would miss it if we were to be relegated. |
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Post by staffordstokie999 on May 28, 2012 7:52:42 GMT
Completely agreed, Bunny. Having started to do the 92 earlier this year, I've watched a fair bit of lower league nogger this last few months. Although being in the Prem's brilliant, it wouldn't really arse me if we went down in the near future. As long as our team is still operating and we have players/managers/ wins/draws/losses to praise/hate/love, then I'm a happy chappy. Don't care if it's against Man Utd at Old Trafford or fucking Southend at Roots Hall, I'm supporting the mighty Potters. I think there may be a small club forming here. I am of the same opinion. I want to Stoke to play at the very highest level that they possibly can but when all is said and done there are positives to be had if we were to fall from grace. The Premier League is over-hyped and run on greed by men with no interest whatsoever in the bigger picture. I doubt that I would miss it if we were to be relegated. i think a lot of people feel the same. It seems that with every season we spend in the premier league, as supporters and as a club, we are becoming more and more like the greedy, arrogant spoilt brats i always despised about the premier league. I almost feel embarrassed when i meet a supporter of a lower league club. |
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on May 28, 2012 8:03:25 GMT
Simply agree with everything that's been said.
I defy anyone to say that they didn't enjoy yesterday's game and how refreshing it was to see two teams both try to play to their max and actually try to win the game, rather than not to lose it as we saw on Saturday afternoon and Saturday night.
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on May 28, 2012 8:24:31 GMT
Simply agree with everything that's been said. I defy anyone to say that they didn't enjoy yesterday's game and how refreshing it was to see two teams both try to play to their max and actually try to win the game, rather than not to lose it as we saw on Saturday afternoon and Saturday night. and play a bit of football at the same time.  |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 8:33:01 GMT
Simply agree with everything that's been said. I defy anyone to say that they didn't enjoy yesterday's game and how refreshing it was to see two teams both try to play to their max and actually try to win the game, rather than not to lose it as we saw on Saturday afternoon and Saturday night. and play a bit of football at the same time. i think you'll find that it's now been scientifically proven that if WE try to play a bit of football then we will apparently definitely be relegated, end up going into liquidation and possibly be the cause of world famine,disease and the third world war....that's what many on here would have us believe anyway |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 8:38:38 GMT
Lets be honest watching Premier League football, La Liga football just shows what a cheating, bribing and general awful game it's become over the last 20 years.
No level playing field and i'm not talking about players and finances, i'm talking about FA and the refs. Big clubs can rack up more debt than a small country but it's ok.
It's a playground for the rich and a money making racket for the FA. Oh and it takes me so much longer to get a pie than when we were in the Championship days.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 8:43:08 GMT
Lets be honest watching Premier League football, La Liga football just shows what a cheating, bribing and general awful game it's become over the last 20 years. No level playing field and i'm not talking about players and finances, i'm talking about FA and the refs. Big clubs can rack up more debt than a small country but it's ok. It's a playground for the rich and a money making racket for the FA. Oh and it takes me so much longer to get a pie than when we were in the Championship days. a point that is proved by what happens to ref's that are deemed "Not good enough" due to consistently poor decision making; what happens to them? are they suspended form reffing?? nope,just sent down to the "Lower leagues" as apparently the uncouth, poor, squalid "Lower leagues" don't need ref's that know the rules as much as the elite,over paid, over hyped, over pampered,cheating scum in the Premiership do! |
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2012 8:49:18 GMT
Also don't get me wrong it's great being on the worlds stage but it's not everything and there is a lot a miss from lower leagues.
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Post by oggyoggy on May 28, 2012 9:19:17 GMT
i think it shows how badly the premier league and 'top tier' football is run. We should all hope we stay at the top level for as long as possible, but I too agree that relegation leads to a much fairer game, from the players, to teams wealth, to refereeing.
The REALLY sad thing is that a few rule changes and some cultural changes at the top of the game (FIFA, FA, UEFA) could re-establish this fairness in the premier league.
Proper financial regulation which reduces wages, ticket prices and transfer spending.
Ridding the game of agents and having a PFA in each country that represents players, which would reduce the greed in some players as they wouldn't have their owner (agent) encouraging the to leave every 5 minutes.
Severe punishment (3 game ban 1st offence, 10 game ban 2nd offence, 3 points deducted +10 game ban 3rd offence) for divers and players that bring the game into disrepute (eg on field racism, fighting, criminal charges)
Video technology to assist refs
simple changes to make the game a fairer and more gentlemanly game.
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Post by cousindupree on May 28, 2012 9:21:15 GMT
The match was certainly a great advert for div 2 football. Both teams played some great football in the right spirit and it was more enjoyable to watch than a large percentage of Stoke games last season.
Maybe our memories are getting confused by all the success we have had in the last 4/5 years. For every Crewe v Cheltenham play off final there are scores of Macclesfield v Barnet (no disrespect to either) horror games, getting soaked standing on terraces and selling your best players...no thanks. Having said that I am looking forward to getting to the odd Fleetwood town game next season.
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Post by JurgenVandeurzen on May 28, 2012 10:10:12 GMT
really enjoyed today's play off game. No theatrical diving, very little whinging at the ref, no rolling on the ground clutching an ankle/knee and no waving imaginary cards. It was like football should/used to be. +1, Real football. |
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Post by Stoke-on-Toronto on May 29, 2012 6:45:38 GMT
When Stoke isn't playing, I prefer to watch the lower leagues.
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