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Post by echetus on Apr 4, 2012 16:58:18 GMT
"We at Port Vale FC are happy to be named as the preferred bidder for Port Vale Football Club." www.port-vale.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10381~2721785,00.html? um, so thats a good start then? After the likes of Bill Bell, Mo Chaudry and Charles Machin poking around in recent years can it really be that some moderately wealthy businessman is going to run the club properly and sensibly? That he won't hand himself building contracts, organize a parade in his honour or have visions from God telling him to take the club into Europe? Feeling like someone who has been in dodgy relationships and then says "right, I don't care if they're boring, I just want someone reliable with a bit of cash saved away".
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Post by Gods on Apr 4, 2012 17:08:19 GMT
Anyone know how much Keith Ryder will be paying to buy the Vale?
I'm sure I heard someone on Radio Stoke say a few weeks back that £800,000 or so would do the trick.
If true, it seems amazing that you can buy a club with a proud (if not glorious) history for about the cost of a 4 bed semi-detached in Surrey.
I suppose in the end what you are buying in to is a shed load of debt and 3000 pissed off punters on your case from day 1 so maybe its not so suprising.
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Apr 4, 2012 18:01:26 GMT
Would be better off with Shaun Ryder
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Post by Mr_DaftBurger on Apr 4, 2012 18:06:28 GMT
Would be better off with Shaun Ryder And Sue Ryder would be an appropriate shirt sponsor!
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Post by robchicken on Apr 4, 2012 18:16:04 GMT
He won't build houses, he'll build a new Youth Centre for the local area. Keep 'em out of trouble and all that. not very likely with a very busy one being right by it
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Post by NassauDave on Apr 4, 2012 19:34:57 GMT
I thought that the Salvation Army was a registered charity....
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Post by NassauDave on Apr 4, 2012 19:36:47 GMT
;D ;D so, thats what happened to Bill Bell Come to think of it, has anyone seen Glenn Oliver lately? Isn't that him on the bench?? ;D
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Post by wingy11 on Apr 4, 2012 19:45:51 GMT
I like the thought of him being a property Guy, if things go worse there at least he can turn it into an housing estate. Only joking lol
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Post by march4 on Apr 4, 2012 19:47:35 GMT
On OVF, they are wetting themselves with joy because they think he is Chair of Govs at a school.
Talk about clutching at straws.
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Post by Davef on Apr 4, 2012 20:43:07 GMT
Would be better off with Shaun Ryder Oh I don't know, I reckon we'll still be enjoying plenty of happy Mondays with this bloke in charge.
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Post by march4 on Apr 4, 2012 20:46:00 GMT
Would be better off with Shaun Ryder Oh I don't know, I reckon we'll still be enjoying plenty of happy mondays with this bloke in charge. I've never heard of him, Dave.
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Post by echetus on Apr 5, 2012 10:00:40 GMT
Anyone know how much Keith Ryder will be paying to buy the Vale? I'm sure I heard someone on Radio Stoke say a few weeks back that £800,000 or so would do the trick. If true, it seems amazing that you can buy a club with a proud (if not glorious) history for about the cost of a 4 bed semi-detached in Surrey. I suppose in the end what you are buying in to is a shed load of debt and 3000 pissed off punters on your case from day 1 so maybe its not so suprising. House prices go up. With a football club you are basically expected to put more money in than you take out whether you are League Two level or in the Premier League. And if things don't go well on the pitch then its either the managers fault or the chairmans fault, so prepare to have effigies burning in the street as well as money down the drain. Businessmen either buy clubs for the ego trip, because they really love the club or the game (and can't afford Liverpool so they buy Tranmere or whatever), to make money out of them in a devious and underhand way (hopefully not this guy) or simply to impress people (read members of the opposite sex i.e. the Freudian analysis). "Who are you big boy?" "I work in financial services and the insurance industry" "yawn" "I own a football club" "Hello! "
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Post by Gods on Apr 5, 2012 11:37:26 GMT
Anyone know how much Keith Ryder will be paying to buy the Vale? I'm sure I heard someone on Radio Stoke say a few weeks back that £800,000 or so would do the trick. If true, it seems amazing that you can buy a club with a proud (if not glorious) history for about the cost of a 4 bed semi-detached in Surrey. I suppose in the end what you are buying in to is a shed load of debt and 3000 pissed off punters on your case from day 1 so maybe its not so suprising. House prices go up. With a football club you are basically expected to put more money in than you take out whether you are League Two level or in the Premier League. And if things don't go well on the pitch then its either the managers fault or the chairmans fault, so prepare to have effigies burning in the street as well as money down the drain. Businessmen either buy clubs for the ego trip, because they really love the club or the game (and can't afford Liverpool so they buy Tranmere or whatever), to make money out of them in a devious and underhand way (hopefully not this guy) or simply to impress people (read members of the opposite sex i.e. the Freudian analysis). "Who are you big boy?" "I work in financial services and the insurance industry" "yawn" "I own a football club" "Hello! " I think you've got something there !
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Post by eddyclamp on Apr 5, 2012 12:07:18 GMT
So,it`s looking like the council will get back 20p in the pound for the £2m loan to Vale. In short they have spunked £1.5m of the public`s hard earned. The people that sanctioned this loan should be made accountable,explain their reasons for giving the Vale a loan in the first place,and if still in office,do the honorable thing.
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Post by Do eet fer Paddock on Apr 5, 2012 12:44:27 GMT
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Post by ravey123 on Apr 5, 2012 12:45:30 GMT
There are only 2 reasons why someone ould get involved in a football club by taking it over with their own money.
1 - They love that club and are a supporter who happens to have a lot of money.
2 - They see an opportunity to make money for THEMSELVES.
We can rule number 1 out straight away so lets look at number 2. There are a number of ways of making money (allegedly) out of a football club:-
i)Invest wisely, have fabulous business acumen, increase crowds and get them promoted - seriously how many clubs has this happened to?
ii) Invest your own money, others people's money or money that doesn't exist, get yourself onto the board and pay yourself a fabulous salary - sounds familiar for the Vale - I think this is the main reason people get involved at board level at clubs they have no affiliation with - the added bonus is that if it goes tits up you have assets to sell (usually land).
Most successfull business people are very shrewd characters who only do things to make money and only then when they believe that their chances of making money are very good. As i) above never seems to happen the only conclusion is that ii) above is the reason for anyone to get involved in a club they do not support.
If I as a Vale fan I would be very worried for the short/mid term
Thank god for St Peter being in the 1 catagory.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on Apr 5, 2012 13:08:15 GMT
So,it`s looking like the council will get back 20p in the pound for the £2m loan to Vale. In short they have spunked £1.5m of the public`s hard earned. The people that sanctioned this loan should be made accountable,explain their reasons for giving the Vale a loan in the first place,and if still in office,do the honorable thing. But don't you just know there are vale fans out there who still feel aggrieved about the Britannia Stadium deal, a deal which MADE the taxpayer money?
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Post by Do eet fer Paddock on Apr 5, 2012 13:48:02 GMT
I had this conversation on twitter with the youth from the sent who blogs on matters vale, and that Malcolm chap from 'influential fans group' the North London Valiants. I asked how they felt, given the widely accepted Starve 'Em Out campaign effectively put the club into admin, led to the council potentially losing most if not all of the £1.8m.
Malcolm came over all sneery and self important with his responses. Martin Tideswell was much more thoughful. Howver neither justified in any way the actions of the fans which will deprive you, me and all other residents of out impoverished city of the Vale loan.
Never mind the clown at the council who sanctionned it, what about the Vale fans who caused the default?
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Post by Do eet fer Paddock on Apr 5, 2012 13:49:38 GMT
If I can be arsed, I'll reprint the twitter conversation on here later, shows up the North London Valiant in a very bad light.
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Post by Gods on Apr 5, 2012 15:37:32 GMT
F*ck me, I must have missed something.
Have the Council really given up on the £2 million loan being paid back already?
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Post by stokieboothen on Apr 5, 2012 15:40:08 GMT
My preferred bidder would be....
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Post by ned on Apr 6, 2012 0:56:59 GMT
Maybe he wants to build a public baths on the site. He should.
It's fit for nowt else.
Not sure if it will do much business.
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Post by Chris1863 on Apr 6, 2012 14:36:51 GMT
He is supposed to be a multi-millionaire fron Preston
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Post by thevoid on Apr 6, 2012 15:51:58 GMT
Wonder why he's never showed any interest in Preston then?
A much bigger club than Vale who have had financial problems recently?
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Apr 6, 2012 15:56:00 GMT
Maybe he wants to build a public baths on the site. He should. It's fit for nowt else. Not sure if it will do much business. A public bath in Burslem is about as much use as a crèche in a convent.
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Post by foster on Apr 6, 2012 15:57:48 GMT
This bloke was my preferred bidder for the Vale, but I suppose you can't have everything. ;D ;D so, thats what happened to Bill Bell or the Red Skull after he was defeated by Captain America.
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Post by march4 on Apr 6, 2012 16:12:22 GMT
He is supposed to be a multi-millionaire fron Preston Where did you hear hear he is a multi-millionaire?
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Post by echetus on Apr 6, 2012 17:58:21 GMT
He is supposed to be a multi-millionaire fron Preston Where did you hear hear he is a multi-millionaire? Well you'd imagine so as he supposedly outbid Chaudry by a long chalk and has put in a five figure deposit. Seems to be just Ryder, no consortium involved or anything.
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Post by parttimelurker on Apr 6, 2012 18:22:13 GMT
I think that Joan Walley was backing the council loan too. A ridiculous amount of money to cost the City when essential services are being cut.
I think she got Bratt his gong too.
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Post by march4 on Apr 6, 2012 18:38:31 GMT
Where did you hear hear he is a multi-millionaire? Well you'd imagine so as he supposedly outbid Chaudry by a long chalk and has put in a five figure deposit. Seems to be just Ryder, no consortium involved or anything. There is no evidence that this guy has that sort of money.
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