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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Mar 7, 2012 8:23:00 GMT
I couldn't really care less. Again another a club masterminding it's own downfall, but they did support our area with the Holditch Pit disaster. Very different circumstances I know.
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Post by avishotair on Mar 7, 2012 9:13:53 GMT
They could play the Miners Arms at Milton. Be just like playing another scotch premier side
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Post by stokemark on Mar 7, 2012 9:20:27 GMT
My initial reaction was fuck them but you do actually raise a reasonable point
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Post by guernseydave on Mar 7, 2012 9:35:46 GMT
Why don't we ask for our Loving Cup back before the Sheriff's officers consficate it as an asset !!
It must be worth a few quid
GD
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 7, 2012 9:37:26 GMT
They supported our area but they didn't support Stoke. If Glasgow gets hit by a comet (or any other electrical retailer for that matter) I may donate a bit to the cause.
But I see no reason to help a club who have only themselves to blame for their current plight, or fans who regularly get convictions for signing sectarian songs. They and Celtic fans make Man Utd's glory hunters seem small beer. The majority of them live either in Ireland (north or south) or close to impoverished clubs like Partick Thistle and Kilmarnock who must lose 75% of their catchment to one of the old firm clubs.
In case you think I am being biased, if Celtic were in trouble I'd feel the same way.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 9:44:21 GMT
They supported our area but they didn't support Stoke. If Glasgow gets hit by a comet (or any other electrical retailer for that matter) I may donate a bit to the cause. But I see no reason to help a club who have only themselves to blame for their current plight, or fans who regularly get convictions for signing sectarian songs. They and Celtic fans make Man Utd's glory hunters seem small beer. The majority of them live either in Ireland (north or south) or close to impoverished clubs like Partick Thistle and Kilmarnock who must lose 75% of their catchment to one of the old firm clubs. In case you think I am being biased, if Celtic were in trouble I'd feel the same way. No they don't that's nonsense. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 9:46:42 GMT
They supported our area but they didn't support Stoke. If Glasgow gets hit by a comet (or any other electrical retailer for that matter) I may donate a bit to the cause. But I see no reason to help a club who have only themselves to blame for their current plight, or fans who regularly get convictions for signing sectarian songs. They and Celtic fans make Man Utd's glory hunters seem small beer. The majority of them live either in Ireland (north or south) or close to impoverished clubs like Partick Thistle and Kilmarnock who must lose 75% of their catchment to one of the old firm clubs.In case you think I am being biased, if Celtic were in trouble I'd feel the same way. Considering just how many clubs are situated in and around Glasgow that's always going to be the case. No different to Bury, Rochdale, Oldham and the two Manchester clubs. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 7, 2012 9:48:24 GMT
They supported our area but they didn't support Stoke. If Glasgow gets hit by a comet (or any other electrical retailer for that matter) I may donate a bit to the cause. But I see no reason to help a club who have only themselves to blame for their current plight, or fans who regularly get convictions for signing sectarian songs. They and Celtic fans make Man Utd's glory hunters seem small beer. The majority of them live either in Ireland (north or south) or close to impoverished clubs like Partick Thistle and Kilmarnock who must lose 75% of their catchment to one of the old firm clubs. In case you think I am being biased, if Celtic were in trouble I'd feel the same way. No they don't that's nonsense. Why highlight just half a sentence? If you think the whole sentence is nonsense, fine; but I certainly didn't imply that the majority of their fans lived in Ireland, so don't say I did. Or don't you understand the meaning of the words either and or when used in the same sentence? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 10:01:31 GMT
They supported our area but they didn't support Stoke. If Glasgow gets hit by a comet (or any other electrical retailer for that matter) I may donate a bit to the cause. But I see no reason to help a club who have only themselves to blame for their current plight, or fans who regularly get convictions for signing sectarian songs. They and Celtic fans make Man Utd's glory hunters seem small beer. The majority of them live either in Ireland (north or south) or close to impoverished clubs like Partick Thistle and Kilmarnock who must lose 75% of their catchment to one of the old firm clubs.In case you think I am being biased, if Celtic were in trouble I'd feel the same way. That's nonsense. It's not based on fact just your say so. How's that for you Buzz Killington? |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 7, 2012 10:08:55 GMT
They supported our area but they didn't support Stoke. If Glasgow gets hit by a comet (or any other electrical retailer for that matter) I may donate a bit to the cause. But I see no reason to help a club who have only themselves to blame for their current plight, or fans who regularly get convictions for signing sectarian songs. They and Celtic fans make Man Utd's glory hunters seem small beer. The majority of them live either in Ireland (north or south) or close to impoverished clubs like Partick Thistle and Kilmarnock who must lose 75% of their catchment to one of the old firm clubs.In case you think I am being biased, if Celtic were in trouble I'd feel the same way. That's nonsense. How's that for you Buzz Killington? Fair enough if that's what you think - but you are wrong. I have several friends who support Partick Thistle, Kilmarnock and Dumbarton and all of them reckon that a significant majority of fans in those places support one of the big two Glasgow clubs. I have no doubt that the same could be said of fans in many towns in central Scotland. I'd struggle to find a national league in Europe where the attendances of the top two clubs are so much higher than the average for the Division they play in. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 10:28:59 GMT
That's nonsense. How's that for you Buzz Killington? Fair enough if that's what you think - but you are wrong. I have several friends who support Partick Thistle, Kilmarnock and Dumbarton and all of them reckon that a significant majority of fans in those places support one of the big two Glasgow clubs. I have no doubt that the same could be said of fans in many towns in central Scotland. I'd struggle to find a national league in Europe where the attendances of the top two clubs are so much higher than the average for the Division they play in.Rangers & Celtic combined average 47,000, league average 14,000. Barcelona & Real Madrid combined average 74,000, league average 28,000. Benfica & Porto combined average 38,000, league average 10,000. Olympiakos & Panathanikos combined average 21,000, league average 6,000. FK Shakhtar Donets'k & FK Metalist Kharkiv combined average 30,000, league average 10,000 FK Crvena Zvezda Beograd & FK Novi Pazar combined average 13,000, league average 3,000. It happens all over, as I said before someone on the outskirts of Glasgow or in Ayrshire supporting Rangers is no different than someone residing in Oldham/Rochdale/Bury supporting Man Utd, someone on the Wirral supporting Liverpool and not Tranmere, someone in Dagenham supporting West Ham........ And as for Ireland every man and his dog has a British team that they support. That's simply because none of them give a toss about their own leagues. |
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 7, 2012 10:39:23 GMT
Good research. The only thing I would say is that with the Scottish Premier League having so few clubs, the attendances of the big two will raise the average league attendance by more than it would in a league with more clubs. I bet the big two average compared to the league average, excluding the big two, would tend to support my point. No doubt you'll give me the figures!  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 10:46:14 GMT
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 7, 2012 10:52:14 GMT
If they did go into liquidation I wonder what would happen to the other clubs in the Scottish Prem? They'd all (including Celtic) lose the two big paydays per season that they get from playing Rangers at home. On the other hand the smaller clubs might gain some fans although I doubt any would switch from Rangers to Celtic.
Despite what Celtic say about it not affecting them, I'm sure the pressure will be on them to opt out of the Scottish League if they can find another league join. Hope our league resists them or, at least forces them to start in Div 2.
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Post by mistergumby on Mar 7, 2012 10:54:25 GMT
No feelings either way. It's your cash, so do what you want with it. Smiley winky thingy.
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Post by dadofsam on Mar 7, 2012 10:56:19 GMT
Well if the greedy players agreed to a pay cut that'd be a start but they've rejected that of course. In a better world they'd sod em all off and start up with talent who were willing to play for the sheer joy and pride of the shirt and £1000 a week.
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Post by Lakeland Potter on Mar 7, 2012 10:59:27 GMT
Well if the greedy players agreed to a pay cut that'd be a start but they've rejected that of course. In a better world they'd sod em all off and start up with talent who were willing to play for the sheer joy and pride of the shirt and £1000 a week. Didn't the players agree wage cuts (of up to 75%) yesterday? It was the player's agents who screwed up the deal. There's a surprise!  |
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Post by mistergumby on Mar 7, 2012 11:03:58 GMT
Well if the greedy players agreed to a pay cut that'd be a start but they've rejected that of course. In a better world they'd sod em all off and start up with talent who were willing to play for the sheer joy and pride of the shirt and £1000 a week. Two of the players haven't rejected - they've walked. Good luck to them. And I'll wager that before the end of the week there will be more. A broad agreement was reached in principle but one of the (many) issues was about release clauses in revised contracts. Negotiations are 'ongoing' or so we are told. Let's wait and see what actually happens before waving the 'greedy players' flag again eh? |
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Post by andylgr on Mar 7, 2012 11:07:13 GMT
They could play the Miners Arms at Milton. Be just like playing another scotch premier side Hey I used to play for them! Nothing wrong with the miners. |
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Post by mistergumby on Mar 7, 2012 11:42:56 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2012 12:47:13 GMT
If they did go into liquidation I wonder what would happen to the other clubs in the Scottish Prem? They'd all (including Celtic) lose the two big paydays per season that they get from playing Rangers at home. On the other hand the smaller clubs might gain some fans although I doubt any would switch from Rangers to Celtic. Despite what Celtic say about it not affecting them, I'm sure the pressure will be on them to opt out of the Scottish League if they can find another league join. Hope our league resists them or, at least forces them to start in Div 2. That's what worries me, Lakeland. I can envisage a scenario where Rangers go pop and Celtic are basically in a perpetual one horse race. They will apply to join the English Prem League (not just the English league, they're not daft!) and we let them in on the back of a sympathy vote. Shortly after a new AFC Rangers club is born and for the obvious reason apply to join Celtic in the Prem. The long and short of which is basically two new clubs which will immediately join the select unrelegatable clique and remove two places for the likes of Stoke (unless they expanded the division by two which is unlikely since UEFA want a max of 20 clubs in each top flight). Anyone who thinks Celtic or Rangers would instantly go down is basing this on current standards in Scotland. As soon as they are allowed into the Prem, they will have access to more money than we do as they will be on tv more often, their global fanreach is enormous and their matchday income is probably about twice ours. They will soon buy players of top six quality. Allowing them in should be resisted at every opportunity. Another good reason to support the Jocks in their push for independence! No excuse to join us then. |
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Post by PotteringThrough on Mar 7, 2012 13:27:51 GMT
If they did go into liquidation I wonder what would happen to the other clubs in the Scottish Prem? They'd all (including Celtic) lose the two big paydays per season that they get from playing Rangers at home. On the other hand the smaller clubs might gain some fans although I doubt any would switch from Rangers to Celtic. Despite what Celtic say about it not affecting them, I'm sure the pressure will be on them to opt out of the Scottish League if they can find another league join. Hope our league resists them or, at least forces them to start in Div 2. Well, if Portsmouth were to go out of business that would leave a gap in the league - Looks likely to be League 1 but you never know! |
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Post by mickstupp on Mar 7, 2012 14:18:53 GMT
A friendly against them at the Brit this summer would be a tasty prospect, the Brit would be full and we could half the proceeds??
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Post by starkiller on Mar 7, 2012 14:25:16 GMT
A gloryhunter club goes to the wall.
Good. Let's fucking celebrate.
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Post by foster on Mar 7, 2012 14:45:26 GMT
Couldn't care less about all these clubs going under.
Rangers, Pompey, Vale...
The main thing that bothers me is that the largest clubs seem to be getting away with having vastly more debt, which I would like to see them at least receive some kind of punishment for. Not only in Europe (UEFA financial requirements) but also domestically.
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Post by Yorkshirepotter on Mar 7, 2012 14:48:05 GMT
A gloryhunter club goes to the wall. Good. Let's fucking celebrate. Spot on. Fuck them. The amount of littlw twats wearing that filthy blue rag all over the UK is just as sickening as the shit, arse or liverpool. Let the sink and sit back laughing!! |
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Post by foster on Mar 7, 2012 14:51:58 GMT
Wouldn't laugh at them but I just don't give a poop about Scottish football.
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Post by spawnyruud on Mar 7, 2012 16:16:35 GMT
Helping out Rangers could be beneficial to Stenhousemuir. Make your own mind up.  |
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Post by Somebody_Told_Me on Mar 7, 2012 20:21:28 GMT
Helping out Rangers could be beneficial to Stenhousemuir. Make your own mind up. Now you put it like that! F**k em! |
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