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Post by french toast on Feb 23, 2012 21:36:23 GMT
I hope pulis stays until he's 100, just because it annoys you Nah. Even you will have found your way out of your bedroom by then and won't be talking any notice of whether I'm annoyed or not. There's more to life than watching out for my blood pressure and talking to other boys on the Internet about wanking, honest. I'll just stick to wanking over tp then. You just stick to stalking and insulting the great man |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2012 21:38:08 GMT
And you think that we should slap TP on the back for the fact that a bunch of players he has written off did better than anyone expected? Oh he is a genius isn't he. In fairness some of the midfield and forwards did better than his chosen few but were ultimately undone tonight by defenders everyone knows aren't good enough. The ones who are are being saved for Swansea because the multi million spending fool is shitting himself about the Premier League. Thanks to his own mess ups. Oh yes he deserves a pat on the back. Silly old me. For a moment there I almost forgot it was a choice between patting TP on the back, or calling for his head. What an utter berk I am...  With fans expecting a repeat of last season's success, our first choice defenders have already had to play almost 40 games each (thanks to the aforementioned unbelievable achievements of last year - thanks TP  ). What on earth did you want/expect? Just keep playing knackered defenders - who, by the way, conceded the exact same amount of goals in the 1st leg as our 'second string' tonight? That team (all 13 of 'em) out there tonight did us proud, and deserve praise for their efforts against what is an extremely strong side. What confuses me is that Tone managed to get such a good performance out of our 'reserves', but when our first team serve up some horrible hoofball, its always TP at the front of the queue for criticism, rather than the players (some of who, after tonights performance should rightly be shitting bricks that they'll lose their spot). None of the negative comments popping up tonight are surprising, though, really. Most of the moaners are the same ones who were moaning last year even as we steamrollered our way to a wembley final. Why did we not just play kids in the first round and get out of the competition if that's the excuse? We splashed out another 20mlion plus this summer to further strengthen the squad. We get to the knock out stages and do that? If you want to knock yourself out on "steam rolls ring Bolton last year, good luck! |
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Post by cheadlestokey on Feb 23, 2012 21:42:39 GMT
Heres the thing. Weve done well tonight despite Sir Tone,and not because of him.
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Post by rastabaxus on Feb 23, 2012 21:47:27 GMT
I felt total ambivalence at the end of the game.
Not sure if I should be proud of the "reserves" or angry about the complete lack of depth in the squad.
I'm just glad we didn't get pumped, and look forward to making the league a priority.
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 23, 2012 21:47:42 GMT
french toast.....poking your stick from your bedroom never gets old, does it?
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Post by french toast on Feb 23, 2012 21:55:36 GMT
french toast.....poking your stick from your bedroom never gets old, does it? I prefer poking my stick from my living room |
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Post by knype on Feb 23, 2012 21:58:40 GMT
TP's play safe policy has possibly cost us over the 2 legs, yes Valencia are a damn good side but why did we have no attacking threat at home against them then play 3 strikers with something to prove in the more difficult venue of the Mestalla?
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Post by workingaardvark on Feb 23, 2012 22:04:38 GMT
Why did we not just play kids in the first round and get out of the competition if that's the excuse? We splashed out another 20mlion plus this summer to further strengthen the squad. We get to the knock out stages and do that? If you want to knock yourself out on "steam rolls ring Bolton last year, good luck! And you think with all the CL teams dropping down into the Europa, that a £20mill "spending spree" (absolute peanuts in the modern climate) would even get us to the semi-final? We played our strongest team in the home leg, and got the exact same result as tonight. To be honest, last thursday most of that £20mill looked absolutely toothless, and lacking in any desire. I wasn't actually pointing to the success of last years FA cup, more just pointing out that the negativity on here (always from the same people as well, strangely) continues even when we're playing some blinding footy. But just as a note, I think it's hilarious how our most successful cup run - just over 9 months ago - which was the reason for us even being in this tournament is now just something for the neg's to completely ignore (and so it seems, actively mock), whereas spending £20mill - just over 6 months ago - can be dragged up ad nauseum. I'll say it again - I'm just proud of the effort the lads put in tonight, even if the result wasn't quite good enough. What I won't do however is call for our manager to be sacked after one of our best performances in weeks, if not months. The way some people go on, you'd think nobody bar TP had ever made a mistake in the transfer market or accidentally bought a mercenary or two - which sadly I think we might have done. |
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Post by french toast on Feb 23, 2012 22:05:27 GMT
TP's play safe policy has possibly cost us over the 2 legs, yes Valencia are a damn good side but why did we have no attacking threat at home against them then play 3 strikers with something to prove in the more difficult venue of the Mestalla? We played a strong 11 last week though knype, this week we needed to throw caution to the wind and it nearly paid off |
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Post by stokecity4life on Feb 23, 2012 22:10:14 GMT
Is this for real?
Must admit was a bit annoyed before kick off with 'some' of the players left behind but that team played so well.
This has to be a joke right?
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Post by workingaardvark on Feb 23, 2012 22:12:28 GMT
Heres the thing. Weve done well tonight despite Sir Tone,and not because of him. Funny that. Let me just get this straight? So when our team play well, its in spite of the manager. But when we play poorly, its because of our manager? How can you possibly win in that situation... ??? |
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Post by stokie25 on Feb 23, 2012 22:15:48 GMT
Stokie 1000(french toast), you know exactly what i'm saying !!
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Post by french toast on Feb 23, 2012 22:20:41 GMT
Stokie 1000(french toast), you know exactly what i'm saying !! No I don't, I assume you are trying to belittle my support from when I was unemployed? |
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Post by apb1 on Feb 23, 2012 22:24:50 GMT
Is this for real? Must admit was a bit annoyed before kick off with 'some' of the players left behind but that team played so well. This has to be a joke right? I agree |
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Post by knype on Feb 23, 2012 22:26:52 GMT
TP's play safe policy has possibly cost us over the 2 legs, yes Valencia are a damn good side but why did we have no attacking threat at home against them then play 3 strikers with something to prove in the more difficult venue of the Mestalla? We played a strong 11 last week though knype, this week we needed to throw caution to the wind and it nearly paid off Strong in arm maybe, Delap, Whelan and Walters on current form should not be in the side. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2012 22:31:17 GMT
Why did we not just play kids in the first round and get out of the competition if that's the excuse? We splashed out another 20mlion plus this summer to further strengthen the squad. We get to the knock out stages and do that? If you want to knock yourself out on "steam rolls ring Bolton last year, good luck! And you think with all the CL teams dropping down into the Europa, that a £20mill "spending spree" (absolute peanuts in the modern climate) would even get us to the semi-final? We played our strongest team in the home leg, and got the exact same result as tonight. To be honest, last thursday most of that £20mill looked absolutely toothless, and lacking in any desire. I wasn't actually pointing to the success of last years FA cup, more just pointing out that the negativity on here (always from the same people as well, strangely) continues even when we're playing some blinding footy. But just as a note, I think it's hilarious how our most successful cup run - just over 9 months ago - which was the reason for us even being in this tournament is now just something for the neg's to completely ignore (and so it seems, actively mock), whereas spending £20mill - just over 6 months ago - can be dragged up ad nauseum. I'll say it again - I'm just proud of the effort the lads put in tonight, even if the result wasn't quite good enough. What I won't do however is call for our manager to be sacked after one of our best performances in weeks, if not months. The way some people go on, you'd think nobody bar TP had ever made a mistake in the transfer market or accidentally bought a mercenary or two - which sadly I think we might have done. I'll ask again: are you happy that we didn't give ourselves the best chance tonight to get through? I am not and don't understand why not. I could argue all night about where we have come from and the "peanuts' spent to date. However I'm letting the managers paranoia spoil the positives of the night, namely the fantastic support and the efforts of TPs second choice and write offs. They deserve our attention tonight so I'll leave it there. |
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Post by Fred Ferret on Feb 23, 2012 22:37:58 GMT
Heres the thing. Weve done well tonight despite Sir Tone,and not because of him. Funny that. Let me just get this straight? So when our team play well, its in spite of the manager. But when we play poorly, its because of our manager? How can you possibly win in that situation... ??? cheadlestokey is absolutely right. The manner in which the lads played tonight has got Clueless out of a hole. For me - he's a dead man walking. Lost all respect for him after naming that squad. Gutless - ashamed he's our manager. |
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Post by steino72 on Feb 23, 2012 22:38:48 GMT
And you think with all the CL teams dropping down into the Europa, that a £20mill "spending spree" (absolute peanuts in the modern climate) would even get us to the semi-final? We played our strongest team in the home leg, and got the exact same result as tonight. To be honest, last thursday most of that £20mill looked absolutely toothless, and lacking in any desire. I wasn't actually pointing to the success of last years FA cup, more just pointing out that the negativity on here (always from the same people as well, strangely) continues even when we're playing some blinding footy. But just as a note, I think it's hilarious how our most successful cup run - just over 9 months ago - which was the reason for us even being in this tournament is now just something for the neg's to completely ignore (and so it seems, actively mock), whereas spending £20mill - just over 6 months ago - can be dragged up ad nauseum. I'll say it again - I'm just proud of the effort the lads put in tonight, even if the result wasn't quite good enough. What I won't do however is call for our manager to be sacked after one of our best performances in weeks, if not months. The way some people go on, you'd think nobody bar TP had ever made a mistake in the transfer market or accidentally bought a mercenary or two - which sadly I think we might have done. I'll ask again: are you happy that we didn't give ourselves the best chance tonight to get through? I am not and don't understand why not. I could argue all night about where we have come from and the "peanuts' spent to date. However I'm letting the managers paranoia spoil the positives of the night, namely the fantastic support and the efforts of TPs second choice and write offs. They deserve our attention tonight so I'll leave it there. Why go on about it as long as you did then? Other than to prove a point |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2012 22:42:21 GMT
I'll ask again: are you happy that we didn't give ourselves the best chance tonight to get through? I am not and don't understand why not. I could argue all night about where we have come from and the "peanuts' spent to date. However I'm letting the managers paranoia spoil the positives of the night, namely the fantastic support and the efforts of TPs second choice and write offs. They deserve our attention tonight so I'll leave it there. Why go on about it as long as you did then? Other than to prove a point Ive reflected. Is that not allowed? Prove what point. I've expressed a view. |
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Post by Stalking Horse on Feb 23, 2012 22:48:57 GMT
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Post by workingaardvark on Feb 23, 2012 22:50:13 GMT
I'll ask again: are you happy that we didn't give ourselves the best chance tonight to get through? I am not and don't understand why not. I could argue all night about where we have come from and the "peanuts' spent to date. However I'm letting the managers paranoia spoil the positives of the night, namely the fantastic support and the efforts of TPs second choice and write offs. They deserve our attention tonight so I'll leave it there. You didn't ask that in the first place, but I'd have to say for the most part yes. Our strongest squad have been looking tired/out of form, and tonight's team absolutely gave it their all, something you couldn't accuse some of the players of last Thursday. Of course I was disappointed that we didn't take a full complement of players, but then we also didn't see many wasted sky-balls tonight. Our players, almost to a man were a massive improvement over our first team regulars in the home tie - minus Wilko, Ryan and maybe JP who really gave it a go. So I'd say - before the game, was I happy? No. During the game and after however, absolutely bloody chuffed. In the end, we gave a great account of ourselves on the european stage. And I could've only been happier had we come away with a win. Sorry, but the whingers can't have it both ways. You can either remember where we've come from or not. £20mill does seem a lot for a team that has come from where we have, but for a premier league team trying to replace an ageing side scattered with Championship players (i.e where we are now), it really is peanuts. And I'll say it again, mistakes are easy to make in the transfer market. Just ask Fergie re: Shawcross/Joe Hart/Taibi etc. |
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Post by bunnyscfc on Feb 23, 2012 22:53:52 GMT
why don't folk ever talk about 1974 and almost winning the league when they use the "where we've come from" card?
Or is there a time limit on this?
It's like a hanging offence to some if you either want better for Stoke or moan about tactics and selections.
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Post by steino72 on Feb 23, 2012 23:03:45 GMT
Why go on about it as long as you did then? Other than to prove a point Ive reflected. Is that not allowed? Prove what point. I've expressed a view. Get over yourself ffs, your underlying belief is that we should of played a stronger squad, correct. Unfortunately for you that weaker side put up a better fight than the what would be everybody elses 1st team. Your argument of playing a stronger side would hold more water if we lost 3 or 4 nil, Proves how much you and thousands of other stokies thought when the squad was released, let alone the team. We have a squad of 24/25 players for a reason, What does irk me is the 4 subs. In Pulis we Trust, PS are you a PHW, I'm more of a rimmer, wasn't always, pre promotion, pre 4th season in the PL, pre FA Cup final, you get the picture |
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Post by stokelad84 on Feb 23, 2012 23:06:26 GMT
I think you'll find he became a PHW when the youth players were released last summer...
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Post by steino72 on Feb 23, 2012 23:16:05 GMT
I think you'll find he became a PHW when the youth players were released last summer... You don't say? I believe his avatar to broaden over to the ironic side. Don't normally react and save it to write in to the oatcake if I have anything to say. As I believe this form of media to be to reactionary, We played bloody well tonight in no small part to Arismendi and Palacios, Everybody these days think they can manage the team after playing Football Manager, Pulis does know what he is doing, PS I have more confidence in that side getting a result than our so called 1st team, go figure, was it just luck then, I'm starting to doubt it myself but then I am very very drunk. |
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Post by gaznandi on Feb 23, 2012 23:17:39 GMT
However I'm letting the managers paranoia spoil the positives of the night, namely the fantastic support and the efforts of TPs second choice and write offs. . And not yours..? Bless you..  |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2012 23:20:27 GMT
I think you'll find he became a PHW when the youth players were released last summer... Which shows what you really are. My view has not changed a jot from a time well before that. I can't help that is the level you want to operate at but if I was you I'd be ashamed. I'd call it pond life level except I'd have the tadpole appreciation society on my case. That comments a disgraceful lie and you well know it. I'll accept your apology when you are big enough to make it. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 23, 2012 23:21:45 GMT
However I'm letting the managers paranoia spoil the positives of the night, namely the fantastic support and the efforts of TPs second choice and write offs. . And not yours..? Bless you.. Yes I'm paranoid about seeing my club send a reserve side to take on Valencia. Is that hard to understand? Accept return blessings. |
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Post by gaznandi on Feb 23, 2012 23:24:48 GMT
And not yours..? Bless you.. Yes I'm paranoid about seeing my club send a reserve side to take on Valencia. Is that hard to understand? Accept return blessings. Absolutely not.. But when said reserve side conjure up a much better performance and result than 'experts' as yourself predict, then what..? |
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Post by victoriaboothenboy on Feb 23, 2012 23:28:50 GMT
And not yours..? Bless you.. Yes I'm paranoid about seeing my club send a reserve side to take on Valencia. Is that hard to understand? Accept return blessings. Its about opinions Some of us think that the so-called reserve side put up a better show in Valencia....than the so called 1st team did at home. Time for a rethink on who really are our best players |
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). What on earth did you want/expect? Just keep playing knackered defenders - who, by the way, conceded the exact same amount of goals in the 1st leg as our 'second string' tonight?
