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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 15, 2012 18:06:42 GMT
Stoke City went to the top of the First Division (premier league of its day) following a 2-2 draw at home to Wolves.
Who would of thought it eh as we look forward to taking on Valencia following 4 straight defeats and a position of 13th in the Premier League.
Just look how far we have slumped.
Pulis out!
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 15, 2012 18:10:12 GMT
;D
With a manager who evolved the playing style over time from a defensive unit (Waddington Wall) to a footballing style that was respected worldwide too.
Im sure we can see the same happening again. ???
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 15, 2012 18:12:45 GMT
And here we have two people who would have assisted Franklingod in a red card protest gainst Waddo.  The original WHW's |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 15, 2012 18:13:58 GMT
I'm sure you can appreciate the "perspective" MoMo.
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 15, 2012 18:14:07 GMT
And here we have two people who would have assisted Franklingod in a red card protest gainst Waddo. The original WHW's And here is someone so bereft of a argument he makes things up. Ive never even called for the managers head you cunt. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 15, 2012 18:16:11 GMT
And here we have two people who would have assisted Franklingod in a red card protest gainst Waddo. The original WHW's And here is someone so bereft of a argument he makes things up. Ive never even called for the managers head you cunt. I suggest you look at thread at the top of this board about respect Mark. Peple have been banned for less The truth stabs like a dagger I see |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 15, 2012 18:19:48 GMT
And here is someone so bereft of a argument he makes things up. Ive never even called for the managers head you cunt. I suggest you look at thread at the top of this board about respect Mark. Peple have been banned for less The truth stabs like a dagger I see Im taking my standards from you. Fuck Davef  Seriously. The last time I wanted his head was the fucking binary season. At this point in time I would appreciate the dozy fucker getting his finger out and stop throttling the life out of me and the expensive squad he is fucking over. |
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Post by stokiefromalad on Feb 15, 2012 18:27:28 GMT
;D With a manager who evolved the playing style over time from a defensive unit (Waddington Wall) to a footballing style that was respected worldwide too. Im sure we can see the same happening again. ??? It was 5th round cup day we were 2-0 down in this game with two minutes to go. I fucked off home gutted that we had seemingly missed the chance to go top. couldn't believe it when i got in and saw the table. I this another marker of where we've come from?javascript:add("%20;D") |
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Post by devsad on Feb 15, 2012 18:35:14 GMT
Yes we had a great team in the seventies but let's remember it was only for a few short years coinciding mainly with the presence of one of the world's best ever players (Alan Hudson). The majority of the my Stoke supporting life of the last 50 we have been out of the top flight and largely pretty crap!
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 15, 2012 18:43:07 GMT
I wasn't even born on this day fella, but it just shows how ridiculous it is to look back at certain dates to justify the shortcomings that we have seen of late.
Equally, it is ridiculous to look back to Feb 15th 1975, as a stick with which to beat Pulis with.
At the end of the day we are all passionate Stokies and it doesn't matter where we have come from. The here and now is what matters and if we can't discuss our team and managers current shortcomings without being told what outcasts we should be, then what is the point.
Equally, when praise is deserved, as it has been many times under Pulis, then you should be allowed to praise without being told you are a rimmer or anything of the sort.
My opinion is that we are back where we belong but when compared with last season, our performances this season, are a backward step from what we saw then. Others disagree. I have no problem with that!
EDIT - The only problem I have is with those who continually say that Fuller is finished, should be sold or is yesterday's news. Those people are just idiots, ungrateful bastards and are incapable of understanding the game in which they claim to watch.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 15, 2012 18:58:12 GMT
And in the game before, we totally destroyed Man City 4-0 when Hudson completely ran the midfield - Citeh were a top four side then too. |
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Post by stokiefromalad on Feb 15, 2012 19:11:41 GMT
I wasn't even born on this day fella, but it just shows how ridiculous it is to look back at certain dates to justify the shortcomings that we have seen of late. Equally, it is ridiculous to look back to Feb 15th 1975, as a stick with which to beat Pulis with. At the end of the day we are all passionate Stokies and it doesn't matter where we have come from. The here and now is what matters and if we can't discuss our team and managers current shortcomings without being told what outcasts we should be, then what is the point. Equally, when praise is deserved, as it has been many times under Pulis, then you should be allowed to praise without being told you are a rimmer or anything of the sort. My opinion is that we are back where we belong but when compared with last season, our performances this season, are a backward step from what we saw then. Others disagree. I have no problem with that! EDIT - The only problem I have is with those who continually say that Fuller is finished, should be sold or is yesterday's news. Those people are just idiots, ungrateful bastards and are incapable of understanding the game in which they claim to watch. Just my attempt at humour, mate. I know and empathise with all the points you make. Its the clowns who make Pulis out to be either a god or the devil that get on my nerves. We as a club, in my 44 years of supporting them have had some really good times but also some real dross but the mindset of the manager at the moment is stopping the "journey" from being as enjoyable as it could be. |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 15, 2012 19:15:18 GMT
It's also worth noting that within two years the manager was gone and we entered a spiral of decline until we appointed an arch pragtamist to the post who told people to fuck off to the circus if they wanted entertaining.
Its a funny old game Jeff.
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Post by Davef on Feb 15, 2012 19:21:29 GMT
An arch pragmatist who wasn't given £90M to spend on a team to entertain the public. |
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Post by stokiefromalad on Feb 15, 2012 19:23:10 GMT
It's also worth noting that within two years the manager was gone and we entered a spiral of decline until we appointed an arch pragtamist to the post who told people to fuck off to the circus if they wanted entertaining. Its a funny old game Jeff. Not quite right Momo. Two years later to get relegated not because of playing expansive football but because of the financial fall out from the butler strret stand fiasco. I believe Durbans quote was made following an awful game at Arsenal in 1979-80 season. |
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Post by murphthesurf on Feb 15, 2012 19:24:58 GMT
Yes we had a great team in the seventies but let's remember it was only for a few short years coinciding mainly with the presence of one of the world's best ever players (Alan Hudson). The majority of the my Stoke supporting life of the last 50 we have been out of the top flight and largely pretty crap! And the greatest, greatest, Goalie ever - the incomparable Gordon Banks! I still worship that wonderful man. His performance when we won the League Cup (and I was there) was out of this world. |
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Post by stokiefromalad on Feb 15, 2012 19:39:48 GMT
An arch pragmatist who wasn't given £90M to spend on a team to entertain the public. Absolutely spot on. Only Waddo ihad any sort of money to spend( don't even mention mick mills!!) n terms of money at the time had anything remotely like a transfer kitty to develop a team that our tone has had at his disposal. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 15, 2012 19:44:22 GMT
An arch pragmatist who wasn't given £90M to spend on a team to entertain the public. And had his entire team sold from beneath him. |
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Post by werrington on Feb 15, 2012 21:06:09 GMT
I went that game and the Man City one......god I,m old  Talking of how far we have come 9 or 10 years ago Swansea were adrift at the bottom of the football league. Food for thought eh |
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 15, 2012 22:08:30 GMT
An arch pragmatist who wasn't given £90M to spend on a team to entertain the public. Trifling details fellas. Trifling details! |
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Post by conzdad on Feb 15, 2012 22:34:45 GMT
I thought we went top after beating Leicester 1-0 at the Vic with Smithy getting the goal.I remember walking through Hanley on way home and looking at league table on a tv in a shop window.............or was it a dream
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 22:42:27 GMT
I thought we went top after beating Leicester 1-0 at the Vic with Smithy getting the goal.I remember walking through Hanley on way home and looking at league table on a tv in a shop window.............or was it a dream I was thinking the same. I remember the game against Wolves where we came back to draw after being two down with a couple of minutes to go. I don't remember it as being the game which took us to the top. |
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Post by Davef on Feb 15, 2012 22:54:57 GMT
We topped the table three times that season. After Leicester at home, Birmingham away and Wolves at home.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 15, 2012 23:08:03 GMT
Good thread ...
Just continuing the 'look where we've come from' perspective ...
Just seven teams have been ever presents in the Prem since it began.
Of the remaining twelve teams in the Prem this season, we played OVER HALF of them when we were in the THIRD TIER of English football.
Let's just ignore the fact, that nearly half of the Prem is actually made up of teams that have come from the same place where we have come from.
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 15, 2012 23:33:10 GMT
That Wolves game was abut the 4th or 5th i ever went to and the late equaliser is the first time I remember having a mental! 2nd mental was goinghome and seeing on World of Spot we were top of the bloody league.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2012 23:38:52 GMT
That Wolves game was abut the 4th or 5th i ever went to and the late equaliser is the first time I remember having a mental! 2nd mental was goinghome and seeing on World of Spot we were top of the bloody league. It was my first season too, and the first time I'd ever seen the crowd go absolutely mental when the equaliser went in. The fact we'd just gone top (I'm thinking for the very last time) somehow passed me by.  |
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Post by JoeinOz on Feb 15, 2012 23:41:24 GMT
We went top in 81/82 but was after only two games.
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Post by devsad on Feb 15, 2012 23:41:39 GMT
Also continuing the "where we've come from" theme from another perspective I think probably only 3 teams in the prem have won less than us (swansea, wigan and possibly fulham).
In my opinion in the context of our overall history the success of the last 12 months (FA cup finalists fo the first time and progress in Europe) does qualify as over achievement.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 15, 2012 23:48:55 GMT
Also continuing the "where we've come from" theme from another perspective I think probably only 3 teams in the prem have won less than us (swansea, wigan and possibly fulham). In my opinion in the context of our overall history the success of the last 12 months (FA cup finalists fo the first time and progress in Europe) does qualify as over achievement. If you want to just include Stoke City in the equation, then fair do's but that hardly provides context does it? Oh Joe and friendcalledfive the Wolves games was my second match, the Man City game being the first ... I was nine at the time! |
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 16, 2012 0:03:33 GMT
And in the game before, we totally destroyed Man City 4-0 when Hudson completely ran the midfield - Citeh were a top four side then too. One of the most enjoyable games I have ever been to. |
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