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Post by skelman on Feb 13, 2012 13:37:07 GMT
Confucius say 'Little man have little dick'!!! 
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Post by exiledstokie on Feb 13, 2012 13:41:05 GMT
Tony Pulis in white flag shocker...........who'd have thought it.
Heard an interview with Alan Pardrew a few weeks back saying their aim is to catch Chelsea and aim for Champions League.
Compare this with TP's 'we'll scrape our way to 40 points somehow and you fans will like it or you can piss off'
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Post by tazi on Feb 13, 2012 13:43:56 GMT
Tony with his mind games in letting his opponent think that we're running scared and yet some of the oatcake boys fall for it by believing we are actually scared....
Priceless comedy gold from the oatie boys again...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 13, 2012 13:46:21 GMT
Correct. The white flag is well and truly up,can't wait watch Rory,salif,Walters Don't fucking bother then. Spot on, I have my ticket and cannot wait for the biggest European game in the club's history. Hope all who do attend make a lot of noise and get behind the TEAM. |
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Post by exiledstokie on Feb 13, 2012 13:47:27 GMT
Tony with his mind games in letting his opponent think that we're running scared and yet some of the oatcake boys fall for it by believing we are actually scared.... Priceless comedy gold from the oatie boys again... The same mind games he's been playing since his 1st spell here? Remember when we were just lucky to be on the same pitch as an out of form, bottom of the CHampionship Milwall because they'd been in the FA Cup final a few years earlier? You keep up with the rimming though Tazi.... |
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Post by stokerambler on Feb 13, 2012 13:48:42 GMT
It's not exactly a rousing the troops for battle stuff is it?
Hoping the player's 'do themselves justice' is tantamount to saying 'we don't expect to win, just put in a good performance'. Reminds me of his comments prior to Old Trafford....
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Post by cheadlestokie on Feb 13, 2012 13:49:41 GMT
You can complain about various things Pulis does but,come on,those words are only for the press - just something to say.Don't take eveything so literally.
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Post by jbstokie on Feb 13, 2012 13:49:51 GMT
My god you're all fucking idiots. Do you genuinely think that when he was asked that he was sweating and shaking in his chair or do you think that maybe it was just a light hearted joke? FFS is it just ANY opportunity to have a crack at him?
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Post by tazi on Feb 13, 2012 13:52:11 GMT
Tony with his mind games in letting his opponent think that we're running scared and yet some of the oatcake boys fall for it by believing we are actually scared.... Priceless comedy gold from the oatie boys again... The same mind games he's been playing since his 1st spell here? Remember when we were just lucky to be on the same pitch as an out of form, bottom of the CHampionship Milwall because they'd been in the FA Cup final a few years earlier? You keep up with the rimming though Tazi.... You really do believe it.....Comedy gold... ;D ;D |
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Post by tazi on Feb 13, 2012 13:53:23 GMT
You can complain about various things Pulis does but,come on,those words are only for the press - just something to say.Don't take eveything so literally. Correct..... |
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Post by shiftyfifty on Feb 13, 2012 13:54:52 GMT
Are you lot really Stoke fans? What has he said that is wrong? He's only said they're a better side than any we've played so far, which is true.
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 13, 2012 13:55:18 GMT
TPs most likely scared we are playing Crawley. ;D
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 13, 2012 14:00:43 GMT
People. TP is the man who got us into the Europa League. Not only that, but he led us into god knows how many games and came away victorious. We got through two play-offs and then almost won the group, suffering our first defeat in only the last game of the group. We now stand on the verge of our biggest ever European night and arguably the biggest game this club has ever played, against a true European giant. I think we can all agree that this has exceeded all of our expectations.
I have major problems with Tony in some regards, and I don't find his post-match comments on Saturday acceptable - but can we have a bit of separation please? The guy deserves our respect in this competition. We should not be allowing some meaningless throwaway pre-match comment to spoil what should be a truly memorable occasion for everyone.
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Post by sirpineapple89 on Feb 13, 2012 14:02:12 GMT
Don't fucking bother then. Spot on, I have my ticket and cannot wait for the biggest European game in the club's history. Hope all who do attend make a lot of noise and get behind the TEAM. Same here. I'm not happy at all with our current form but why let form (which is, as they say, only temporary) get in the way of such a massive occasion? I can forgive four games of rubbish given the bigger picture, I'm just surprised so many appear so negative. I wonder what makes some people tick sometimes. |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Feb 13, 2012 14:11:05 GMT
Spot on, I have my ticket and cannot wait for the biggest European game in the club's history. Hope all who do attend make a lot of noise and get behind the TEAM. Same here. I'm not happy at all with our current form but why let form (which is, as they say, only temporary) get in the way of such a massive occasion? I can forgive four games of rubbish given the bigger picture, I'm just surprised so many appear so negative. I wonder what makes some people tick sometimes. I'm feeling negative because i've been looking forward to this game and the away leg for two fucking months, and the last 4 performances on the pitch have been so woefully fucking inept that it has literally sapped the excitement out of me. Rather than being excited i'm now desperately concerned that a good many people will have pissed away a good amount of money for a meaningless away leg because make no mistake, if we start against these like we did against Fulham, they will wipe the fucking floor with us. that being the case i want the manager to come out fighting, remembering that although i feel people do often read too much into what he says pre-match, overly negative comments like this have often preceded pathetic performances. |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 13, 2012 14:22:12 GMT
Same here. I'm not happy at all with our current form but why let form (which is, as they say, only temporary) get in the way of such a massive occasion? I can forgive four games of rubbish given the bigger picture, I'm just surprised so many appear so negative. I wonder what makes some people tick sometimes. I'm feeling negative because i've been looking forward to this game and the away leg for two fucking months, and the last 4 performances on the pitch have been so woefully fucking inept that it has literally sapped the excitement out of me. Rather than being excited i'm now desperately concerned that a good many people will have pissed away a good amount of money for a meaningless away leg because make no mistake, if we start against these like we did against Fulham, they will wipe the fucking floor with us. that being the case i want the manager to come out fighting, remembering that although i feel people do often read too much into what he says pre-match, overly negative comments like this have often preceded pathetic performances. That is unsubstantiated bollocks. There is absolutely no difference in the things he says before games we win and games we lose. |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Feb 13, 2012 14:25:40 GMT
I'm feeling negative because i've been looking forward to this game and the away leg for two fucking months, and the last 4 performances on the pitch have been so woefully fucking inept that it has literally sapped the excitement out of me. Rather than being excited i'm now desperately concerned that a good many people will have pissed away a good amount of money for a meaningless away leg because make no mistake, if we start against these like we did against Fulham, they will wipe the fucking floor with us. that being the case i want the manager to come out fighting, remembering that although i feel people do often read too much into what he says pre-match, overly negative comments like this have often preceded pathetic performances. That is unsubstantiated bollocks. There is absolutely no difference in the things he says before games we win and games we lose. Tell you summat for nowt, it is a comment which tells me exactly what we are about to be served up on Thursday, all out defense. |
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 13, 2012 14:31:16 GMT
That is unsubstantiated bollocks. There is absolutely no difference in the things he says before games we win and games we lose. Tell you summat for nowt, it is a comment which tells me exactly what we are about to be served up on Thursday, all out defense. For god's sake mate, give your head a wobble  . It's the home leg of a CUP GAME. There is NOTHING to be gained by defending. If we get a win you can bet your arse it will be "all out defence" in the away leg, but not at home. And anyway, if you really think you can tell what TP's tactics will be from one tongue-in-cheek line in an interview with some journo then you're even dafter than I thought. |
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Feb 13, 2012 15:06:07 GMT
Tell you summat for nowt, it is a comment which tells me exactly what we are about to be served up on Thursday, all out defense. For god's sake mate, give your head a wobble . It's the home leg of a CUP GAME. There is NOTHING to be gained by defending. If we get a win you can bet your arse it will be "all out defence" in the away leg, but not at home. And anyway, if you really think you can tell what TP's tactics will be from one tongue-in-cheek line in an interview with some journo then you're even dafter than I thought. There's nothing to be gained form simply defending in most games mate, but thats seems to be what we're doing from the outset of most games, home and away just now. We are not playing, we're fucking hoping. I realise i'm over-reacting but at times he just makes me want to fucking scream, it's like water torture. As long as the points keep coming you can deal with the crap football, bizarre team selections, baffling pre and post match comments but 4 defeats of of such utter banality on the bounce and frankly it's enough to drive anyone to despair. Don't get me wrong, it's not just the defeats, i though the reaction to the 4 defeats earlier in the season was a bit OTT, i thought i could see us turning it round against QPR but the last 4 games have been truly awful. Then chuck in wanky little comments like this, which, if i'm honest i actually thought he'd stopped doing, his media skills have improved ten fold over the last few years and it just has me sitting hear calling him all the names under the sun because i just do not see that it does anything other than have a negative impact. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Feb 13, 2012 15:15:40 GMT
Tell you summat for nowt, it is a comment which tells me exactly what we are about to be served up on Thursday, all out defense. For god's sake mate, give your head a wobble . It's the home leg of a CUP GAME. There is NOTHING to be gained by defending. If we get a win you can bet your arse it will be "all out defence" in the away leg, but not at home. And anyway, if you really think you can tell what TP's tactics will be from one tongue-in-cheek line in an interview with some journo then you're even dafter than I thought. Far better to go in at half-time at 0-0 and then try and nick something in the last quarter of an hour, than be behind to a couple of away goals and the tie effectively be over because you haven't been solid enough defensively in the first 45 though ... |
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Post by Jamo on the wing on Feb 13, 2012 15:16:48 GMT
I'm not totally convinced about the methodology used but I do wonder whether this is just Tone making doubly sure he doesn't upset anyone like he did (albeit innocently) in Kiev.
I think the tactic is probably the right one but (as can seen from the reaction) I'm not sure the wording has the correct influence on the fans TP wants to roar the team on this Thursday night.
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 13, 2012 15:23:30 GMT
For god's sake mate, give your head a wobble . It's the home leg of a CUP GAME. There is NOTHING to be gained by defending. If we get a win you can bet your arse it will be "all out defence" in the away leg, but not at home. And anyway, if you really think you can tell what TP's tactics will be from one tongue-in-cheek line in an interview with some journo then you're even dafter than I thought. Far better to go in at half-time at 0-0 and then try and nick something in the last quarter of an hour, than be behind to a couple of away goals and the tie effectively be over because you haven't been solid enough defensively in the first 45 though ... And there speaks the voice of reason! ;D |
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Post by cousindupree on Feb 13, 2012 15:26:57 GMT
In fairness to TP he has given it a real go in the Europa and shown great commitment to doing well and that's to be applauded. I am certain that from the Chairman right down to fan in the crowd we will all be up for this one. If anyone isn't then they really do need a reality check. Its arguably one of our biggest games in the history of the club and I will be there jetlagged from Atlanta.
Its imperative we keep a clean sheet in the home tie and the manager knows this, but one or two in the plus column could well mean a party for Stokies in Valencia next week.
Valencia at the Brit is really living the dream boys enjoy it!
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Post by podolipotter on Feb 13, 2012 15:30:33 GMT
Christ, how will he feel when we travel to Spain??
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Post by wingy11 on Feb 13, 2012 15:33:45 GMT
How shit we have been playing lately I'd be scared, I can see us getting thrashed unless he starts with 2 wingers, to be honest,
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Post by Stretfordpotterer on Feb 13, 2012 15:36:11 GMT
For god's sake mate, give your head a wobble . It's the home leg of a CUP GAME. There is NOTHING to be gained by defending. If we get a win you can bet your arse it will be "all out defence" in the away leg, but not at home. And anyway, if you really think you can tell what TP's tactics will be from one tongue-in-cheek line in an interview with some journo then you're even dafter than I thought. Far better to go in at half-time at 0-0 and then try and nick something in the last quarter of an hour, than be behind to a couple of away goals and the tie effectively be over because you haven't been solid enough defensively in the first 45 though ... I see where you're coming from mate, and for most teams yes, you're exactly right, but this is Pulis' Stoke we're talking about. We ARE solid at the back. If we concede a couple it will nearly always be because we have made a individual errors, not because we have set up too attacking. If anything the more defensive he goes, the more we look like we've got a mistake in us because there's no out ball and we are just stuck with our backs to the wall. Fulham being a case in point. We just couldn't get out in the first 20 minutes giving us all the more oppurtunity to make a defensive error. |
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Post by philm87 on Feb 13, 2012 15:42:43 GMT
As someone who takes every one of TP's public utterances literally I am quite honestly fuming.
Pulis should get behind the team like we do on our MB
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Post by ladyinred on Feb 13, 2012 16:21:16 GMT
There is no chance that TP will approach Thursday with all out defence as the tactic.
I truly believe, looking at the bigger picture - it will be a case of 'going for it'.
Scenario 1 - we go for it and take a lead to Valencia - this means for the 2nd leg he can rest some of our attacking players for the swansea match and go all out defence in Spain, playing a midfield 3 of Diao, Whitehead, Delap and probably 3 CB's
Scenario 2 - we lose, due to being to adventurous - this means for the 2nd leg - he won't bother, send a complete 2nd string (which for Stoke City is the defensive players mentioned above).
Scenario 3 - A draw - Pulis will have to send a half decent team to Valencia, with the Swansea home game coming up.
The last thing that TP will want - is for the result to be close. He will want the tie to be decided (as far as possible) in the home leg.
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Post by stokiejoe on Feb 13, 2012 16:36:50 GMT
So pleased he is going to change one or two players around
Fuller and Pennant to start ....... that's the full backs chosen!
He must surely put out our best attacking team for this game?
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Post by MrMagic on Feb 13, 2012 16:39:17 GMT
There is no chance that TP will approach Thursday with all out defence as the tactic. I truly believe, looking at the bigger picture - it will be a case of 'going for it'. Scenario 1 - we go for it and take a lead to Valencia - this means for the 2nd leg he can rest some of our attacking players for the swansea match and go all out defence in Spain, playing a midfield 3 of Diao, Whitehead, Delap and probably 3 CB's Scenario 2 - we lose, due to being to adventurous - this means for the 2nd leg - he won't bother, send a complete 2nd string (which for Stoke City is the defensive players mentioned above). Scenario 3 - A draw - Pulis will have to send a half decent team to Valencia, with the Swansea home game coming up. The last thing that TP will want - is for the result to be close. He will want the tie to be decided (as far as possible) in the home leg. Given that we currently approach every league match with the aim of keeping it tight for 70 minutes and seeing if we can sneak a lucky goal from a set piece, then I'd be surprised at anything other than an all out defensive performance. At the moment Pulis could not set a team out to "go for it" if someone bought him a book called "going for it for negative dummies - a guide to decent football management" Just accept that it's going to be dire and painful. I've found that it saves the disappointment on the walk back up to Heron Cross after. |
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