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Post by gremlin on Feb 11, 2012 18:52:48 GMT
What is it that your pissed off with at the moment? Is it pulis himself, the results, the money he's spent etc?
In my opinion, i really wasnt expecting anything from today at fulham, so the results of late (with the exception of west brom) haven't really bothered me.
It's not the money that he's spent thats bothering me.
Whats bothering me is the team selection, the way we approach every game and how poor the tactics are.
Walters is fucked, pennant should be starting with fuller, and kenwyne jones shouldnt be anywhere near a stoke shirt. I'd rather start shotton up front.
Am i right in saying, if we started players in the right positions, played players who are fit and going to cause a problem, and not going with such a negative attitude before the game has started, apart from a small minority of fans, i personally wouldnt have a problem with losing games as much as much as i have a problem with it now.
I think this is the reason the fans are getting on his back, not the results, am i right? Unless we pull our fingers out and pulis somehow strides away from this stubborn, negative, DOGSHIT FOOTBALL, i can see us becoming in for a relegation scrap in a few months.
Views?
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Post by multiplescoregasms on Feb 11, 2012 18:54:58 GMT
Style of play I.e entertainment value and also his fucking persistence of playing the wrong 11 e.g. No Pennant.
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Post by gremlin on Feb 11, 2012 18:57:07 GMT
Style of play I.e entertainment value and also his fucking persistence of playing the wrong 11 e.g. No Pennant. Its not the result though is it? Did anyone realisticly expect anything from fulham today? Just to give it a go FOR FUCKING ONCE would be nice.
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Post by Lawto on Feb 11, 2012 18:59:23 GMT
70 yard diagonal balls from centre back to big lump Not having a go until we're losing Centre backs at full back Only playing one winger at a time Centre midfielders that don't cross the half way line
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Post by stokiejoeofalsager on Feb 11, 2012 18:59:24 GMT
im never too bothered about the type of football if we are winning. but we aren't. how stubborn pulis is and how he never admits he is wrong with his team selections, how he cant see the blindingly obvious that everyone else sees (play pennant ffs) and how he never takes the blame for losses and holds his hands up to say ' i was wrong' but blames it on some refereeing decision instead. THAT is what annoys me
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Post by multiplescoregasms on Feb 11, 2012 19:01:49 GMT
Style of play I.e entertainment value and also his fucking persistence of playing the wrong 11 e.g. No Pennant. Its not the result though is it? Did anyone realisticly expect anything from fulham today? Just to give it a go FOR FUCKING ONCE would be nice. Never said it was the result that bothered me, it's a tough game to play, they beat Newcastle 5-2 so they do have quality there, but the result occurs as a direct result of these quite frankly idiotic tactics from Pulis.
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Post by gremlin on Feb 11, 2012 19:01:55 GMT
70 yard diagonal balls from centre back to big lump Not having a go until we're losing Centre backs at full back Only playing one winger at a time Centre midfielders that don't cross the half way line He likes his CM to both play in the cage. The definition of the 'cage' is to sit inbetween the 18 yard box and the 'D' of the half way line move side to side 4 yards each way when defending, and if you cant make a tackle let the attacker run free. If you have the ball either hoof it as far as you can or give the ball the opposition from 5 yards away. Then revert back to stage one.
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Post by mark71 on Feb 11, 2012 19:02:46 GMT
Lack of entertainment, playing out of form players instead of better options and the square pegs in round holes. Playing Huth and Woodgate at right back. the failure to play 2 wingers together.
I'm not asking for us to totally change the way we play. I want us to start playing the way we did towards last season after the west ham cup game.
Pulis has gone to far now. Time to go.
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Post by baystokie on Feb 11, 2012 19:43:31 GMT
What is it that your pissed off with at the moment? Is it pulis himself, the results, the money he's spent etc? In my opinion, i really wasnt expecting anything from today at fulham, so the results of late (with the exception of west brom) haven't really bothered me. It's not the money that he's spent thats bothering me. Whats bothering me is the team selection, the way we approach every game and how poor the tactics are. Walters is fucked, pennant should be starting with fuller, and kenwyne jones shouldnt be anywhere near a stoke shirt. I'd rather start shotton up front. Am i right in saying, if we started players in the right positions, played players who are fit and going to cause a problem, and not going with such a negative attitude before the game has started, apart from a small minority of fans, i personally wouldnt have a problem with losing games as much as much as i have a problem with it now. I think this is the reason the fans are getting on his back, not the results, am i right? Unless we pull our fingers out and pulis somehow strides away from this stubborn, negative, DOGSHIT FOOTBALL, i can see us becoming in for a relegation scrap in a few months. Views? 'Wasn't expecting anything today from Fulham' - OK, Fulham are not a bad side, in fact, quite a reasonably difficult side to play BUT - hasn't it come to something when, in our 4th year in the Prem, our supporters don't EXPECT anything and that's before the game is played. I think we have reached a position where we are so grateful for what we have achieved that we see ourselves as a little fish in a big pool and we had better not get above our station in life. So ambition is stifled and westop reaching out for something better than what we have. We may not be the best team in the Prem(!) but that should not stop us from trying to be the best we can be. He who dares, wins? (sometimes).
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Feb 11, 2012 19:46:08 GMT
TPs stubbeness in playing players out of position,so he can fit in his favoured players.
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Post by pulismaskreplica on Feb 11, 2012 19:52:04 GMT
For me it is the not winning. Now I understand that unless you are in the top 4-5 of teams in any league, in any division, that you are going to be disappointed more often than not.
If we play dreadful, really shit horrible stuff but win I'm happy.
If we lose but I'm entertained, I'm still annoyed because I hate losing but I see potential for us to win the next game.
At the moment though we are playing dreadfully and losing - a lethal combo that shows no sign of improving!!
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Post by joinerssquire on Feb 11, 2012 19:55:00 GMT
The fact that I just don't enjoy going to the game anymore. It has become a predictable dreary grind devoid of excitement and not even the results can make up for that at the moment.
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Post by southendstokie64 on Feb 11, 2012 20:01:08 GMT
Agree with joinersquire,i stopped going in november and wont pay good money to be bored and frustrated until pulis goes
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Post by snapotter on Feb 11, 2012 20:02:42 GMT
Team selection.
I believe we are handicapping ourselves by not starting with our strongest side (Pennant AND Ethers, Fuller or Jerome starting)
I feel frustrated before a ball is kicked.
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Post by stokemark on Feb 11, 2012 20:07:53 GMT
The big picture is a reflection on why Im pissed off
Too many 'old pro's and championship never weres. Not enough youth, not enough foreign talent, no risk taking, dull football, old fashioned attitudes
I love the guy but I thought that the '3 year plan' was all about addressing some of the earlier 'excuses' as to why we needed to start our life in the Premier League with such a negative style.
Nothing has changed - the formation is so boring and predictable - £90m spent and where has it really got us ?
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Post by joinerssquire on Feb 11, 2012 20:08:33 GMT
Team selection. I believe we are handicapping ourselves by not starting with our strongest side (Pennant AND Ethers, Fuller or Jerome starting) I feel frustrated before a ball is kicked. Aye that 2.05 moment when Kemp comes on the radio to tell us not to get too excited today..............
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Feb 11, 2012 20:11:36 GMT
We are just simply awful at the moment & very lucky indeed to have those 30 points in the bag
The day our home form goes was going to be the day I worry about our Premiership tenure, and so far this Season its been way too predictable. With TP as stubborn as a Government mule over players in wrong positions & not having the Gaul and Testicles to attack teams well.....
I love my Club, maybe too much the wife would say....aint worth getting all worked up & emotional about is it...;-)
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Post by oldgit57 on Feb 11, 2012 20:14:45 GMT
Just too bloody stubborn, pick the best 11 its not bloody rocket science!!
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