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Post by exiledstokie on Feb 5, 2012 14:10:33 GMT
..... Would you give Pulis another £20m to spend in the summer, considering the amount he's had to spend so far, the negative way he sets his teams up with players out of position, and his inability to strengthen key areas where we've been weak for 3-4 years?
If it were me I wouldn't give him £20 let alone £20m
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Post by march4 on Feb 5, 2012 14:13:15 GMT
I would give him £200M if he asked for it.
Why wouldn't Uncle Peter trust the man he has publicly pronounced as the greatest manager in our 149 year history.
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Post by exiledstokie on Feb 5, 2012 14:18:35 GMT
I would give him £200M if he asked for it. Why wouldn't Uncle Peter trust the man he has publicly pronounced as the greatest manager in our 149 year history. Almost as baffling as playing Walters left midfield yesterday. |
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Post by matisfaction on Feb 5, 2012 14:19:33 GMT
I would give him £200M if he asked for it. Why wouldn't Uncle Peter trust the man he has publicly pronounced as the greatest manager in our 149 year history. If Coates could afford to shell out £200M a season then we would have a higher profile manager. What people seem to forget when moaning incessantly about TP wasting money is that we still have a wage cap, the majority of other clubs don't. So obviously our one off transfer fees are exactly that, where as wages wise, we are miles behind everyone else in the spending stakes. |
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Post by mermaidsal on Feb 5, 2012 14:40:13 GMT
I would give him £200M if he asked for it. Why wouldn't Uncle Peter trust the man he has publicly pronounced as the greatest manager in our 149 year history. Almost as baffling as playing Walters left midfield yesterday. Nothing baffling about using a player you know will run all day (even 6 weeks after his legs have gone, tis true) and play the system... I'm just sad Jonny's letting himself be turned into the new Cresswell, bit more ego wouldn't do him any harm. |
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Post by hoofmagic on Feb 5, 2012 14:41:54 GMT
I just hope that Sir Peter is reading the sign's and takes action before it's to late, pulis as done well to get stoke into a mid premiership team, BUT the sign's are there for everyone to see square pegs in round holes, playing players out of position,playing players that are way past their best, tactics that are poor, it's just my opinion but i think pulis has taken stoke as far has he can, the next few weeks will tell how long he (pulis) will be the manager.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 5, 2012 14:56:48 GMT
As an attacking unit we are woeful.
I started a thread ages ago highlighting the importance of an early cross or ball into the box for Walters, or at the time Jones to run onto.
For me we need to tighten up, start keeping clean sheets and try to sort the mess out in the summer.
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 5, 2012 15:03:51 GMT
Would not give him any additional money until he starts to improve the football we play. He has wasted quite a lot of money
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Post by PerCyfilth ....Captains Log on Feb 5, 2012 15:10:14 GMT
i think what he gave him in January tells you all you need to know. Start performing with what you have, get rid of the deadwood you signed for starters and give the supporters something to get behind.
Once the supporters stop going is when he will be on the carpet in PCs office and rightly so.
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Post by frasier99 on Feb 5, 2012 15:14:38 GMT
It doesn't matter what we would do. I think Peter is a very astute man and will not allow things to get out of hand He is a far better man than me or you when it comes to looking after money investments.  |
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Post by baystokie on Feb 5, 2012 15:23:51 GMT
I would give him £200M if he asked for it. Why wouldn't Uncle Peter trust the man he has publicly pronounced as the greatest manager in our 149 year history. That says more about Uncle Peter's idea of entertaining, progressive football. He knows a great deal about selling pies and running a betting organisation. That does not necessarily qualify him to pronounce on TP's place in our history and have it treated as holy writ - it's just one man's opinion. No more - and no less - than any other supporter's view. |
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Post by kevkj on Feb 5, 2012 15:25:50 GMT
Get him gone,its been coming for months,our luck has ran out and its going to get worse now .So much for the ffs were 8th comments that have masked what was happening on the pitch.
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Post by stokielancer on Feb 5, 2012 15:29:45 GMT
Time to go PULIS OUT!!!
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 5, 2012 15:31:13 GMT
..... Would you give Pulis another £20m to spend in the summer, considering the amount he's had to spend so far, the negative way he sets his teams up with players out of position, and his inability to strengthen key areas where we've been weak for 3-4 years? If it were me I wouldn't give him £20 let alone £20m Yes I would, we are a mid table Prem team not rock bottom of league 2, hes done a bloody good job to keep us there. Alot are going over the top because we are on a bad run, some need to calm down and take a look at where we are and what we can realistically expect to achieve. Do you think we should be challenging the top 6? |
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Post by fishlovesoatcakes on Feb 5, 2012 15:32:38 GMT
I would give him £200M if he asked for it. Why wouldn't Uncle Peter trust the man he has publicly pronounced as the greatest manager in our 149 year history. I take it that you don't run your own business then |
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Post by kevkj on Feb 5, 2012 15:34:06 GMT
Im happy finishing around 14-10th but not watching the shite i am.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 5, 2012 15:37:22 GMT
I have long held the belief that Pulis is a better shopper in the bargain basement.
What is classed as a big money signing these days?
I would say 5m is a big money signing and for me, the only successful big money signing he has made is Huth. The rest have been shit.
Tuncay, Kitson, Whitehead, Crouch, Palacios, Wilson and to a lesser extent, KJ, although I think KJ did well this season and can consider himself unfortunate to have been out of the team for so long.
Pulis is shit at spending decent money and aside from Huth, all of our best signings have been between 0 and 2.5m.
Tommy, Ryan, Abdy, Fuller, Delap, Higgy, Pennant, Etherington, Whelan. Aside from KJ and Huth, none of the others have merited a regular start in our first 11 and I include Crouch in that who is the best part of useless given the way we play.
I wouldn't give him another big transfer pot. For me, he now has to generate some of his own funds and recoup some of the ridiculous money he has spent on shit players.
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Post by baystokie on Feb 5, 2012 15:37:28 GMT
..... Would you give Pulis another £20m to spend in the summer, considering the amount he's had to spend so far, the negative way he sets his teams up with players out of position, and his inability to strengthen key areas where we've been weak for 3-4 years? If it were me I wouldn't give him £20 let alone £20m Yes I would, we are a mid table Prem team not rock bottom of league 2, hes done a bloody good job to keep us there. Alot are going over the top because we are on a bad run, some need to calm down and take a look at where we are and what we can realistically expect to achieve. Do you think we should be challenging the top 6? Realistically, it will be a long time before we will challenge the 'top table'' BUT that should not stop us from TRYING to challenge their superiority in every game we play them. It's the attitude that we should be 'grateful for crumbs from the rich man's table and not get above our station' that really gets under my skin. |
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Post by boskampsflaps on Feb 5, 2012 15:48:25 GMT
Yes I would, we are a mid table Prem team not rock bottom of league 2, hes done a bloody good job to keep us there. Alot are going over the top because we are on a bad run, some need to calm down and take a look at where we are and what we can realistically expect to achieve. Do you think we should be challenging the top 6? Realistically, it will be a long time before we will challenge the 'top table'' BUT that should not stop us from TRYING to challenge their superiority in every game we play them. It's the attitude that we should be 'grateful for crumbs from the rich man's table and not get above our station' that really gets under my skin. I'm not saying we shouldn't try, but its most likely we will fall short and people need to realize that and stop all this knee jerk moaning after every defeat, we are a team that will always have a bad run in a season as are most others. |
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Post by exiledstokie on Feb 5, 2012 15:50:19 GMT
I simply cannot believe we are in our 4th year in the Premier League and we find ourselves with a the following:
A right footed center midfielder at left back.
The same tired CM pairing we had in the Championship.
Zero cover for the left wing.
He clearly has no idea how to spend money wisely, and shouldn't be given any more to waste in the summer.
We need a manager who can attract decent players, who plays decent football, I'm not asking for us to turn into Barcelona or anything, I just want our players to pass and move, we're so static for 90mins, hoping knock downs go our way etc.
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Post by potters 22 on Feb 5, 2012 15:52:26 GMT
Dickhead comments from gloryhunting fans! Coatsy will give tp 10-20 mill in summer guaranteed! And whatsmore he will no be sacked even if relegated (which will not happen) and rightly so!! |
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Post by davejohnno1 on Feb 5, 2012 15:56:07 GMT
MARK WILSON IS NOT A MIDFIELD PLAYER
How the hell did he get the sponsors MOM yesterday. He did lots of Beagrie swivels but he didn't pass a ball to a Stoke player all day. He did very little right and was absolutely atrocious.
He would be a complete liability in midfield. He is one paced both in foot and thought. He is wank and is another 7m spunked up the wall on a player who is no better than what we already had.
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Post by baystokie on Feb 5, 2012 15:58:59 GMT
Dickhead comments from gloryhunting fans! Coatsy will give tp 10-20 mill in summer guaranteed! And whatsmore he will no be sacked even if relegated (which will not happen) and rightly so!! So you agree with rewards for failure? I hope TP's 'Performance Criteria' are tougher than yours. |
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Post by stokemark on Feb 5, 2012 16:13:00 GMT
In some defence of TP we probably did pay a fair slice of the Crouch fee directly to Crouch himself to subsidise his wages during his contract. We tend to pay bigger fees but lower wages than many.
That said, I would seriously want heads to roll re: Palacios / Ba !!
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Post by potters 22 on Feb 5, 2012 16:15:26 GMT
Dickhead comments from gloryhunting fans! Coatsy will give tp 10-20 mill in summer guaranteed! And whatsmore he will no be sacked even if relegated (which will not happen) and rightly so!! So you agree with rewards for failure? I hope TP's 'Performance Criteria' are tougher than yours. Rewards for failure? I call staying in the prem comfortably for 4 seasons success! Open your eyes!! |
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Post by potterglen on Feb 5, 2012 16:17:17 GMT
Im happy finishing around 14-10th but not watching the shite i am. +1 |
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Post by potterglen on Feb 5, 2012 16:18:43 GMT
The money would be better spent implanting a positive football gene into Pulis, he sure as hell hasn't got one naturally.
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 5, 2012 16:20:47 GMT
Would not give him any additional money until he starts to improve the football we play. He has wasted quite a lot of money Wasted a lot of money? This argument always does my head in and it totally baffles me. While TP has made the odd poor signing they are far outnumbered by the those that have turned out to be inspired. |
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Post by baystokie on Feb 5, 2012 16:24:53 GMT
So you agree with rewards for failure? I hope TP's 'Performance Criteria' are tougher than yours. Rewards for failure? I call staying in the prem comfortably for 4 seasons success! Open your eyes!! I was referring to your statement that TP 'would not be sacked even if relegated - and rightly so' - when businesses suffer bad results, managers would be called to account and judged accordingly - there's no way they could say 'we should not be sacked - and rightly so' - that would be rewarding failure? |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 5, 2012 16:28:34 GMT
Rewards for failure? I call staying in the prem comfortably for 4 seasons success! Open your eyes!! I was referring to your statement that TP 'would not be sacked even if relegated - and rightly so' - when businesses suffer bad results, managers would be called to account and judged accordingly - there's no way they could say 'we should not be sacked - and rightly so' - that would be rewarding failure? If TP got us relegated he should be sacked. Luckily for him, and us, there is no chance of that happening  |
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