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Post by 1863scfc1863 on Feb 4, 2012 11:11:34 GMT
Just a thought?
Did PC tell TP has spent enough already?
We have spent more than most teams over the last few seasons and not brought any cash in on sales of players.
By spending millions on players like Tongue, Soares, Davis etc and getting nothing from them.
We spent millions on Palacios and hardly used him.
The only player to have brought us a decent amount of cash was Tuncay and TP wouldnt play him.
So just maybe PC told our manager that he could only spend what cash he brought in?
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 4, 2012 11:17:35 GMT
Just a thought? Did PC tell TP has spent enough already? We have spent more than most teams over the last few seasons and not brought any cash in on sales of players. By spending millions on players like Tongue, Soares, Davis etc and getting nothing from them. We spent millions on Palacios and hardly used him. The only player to have brought us a decent amount of cash was Tuncay and TP wouldnt play him. So just maybe PC told our manager that he could only spend what cash he brought in? It was a quiet window in general (QPR being the exception) and in truth our side is pretty competent at the moment in most areas. We didn't need to splash silly money on panic buys this window. |
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Post by MarkWolstanton on Feb 4, 2012 11:26:12 GMT
It's not the best window for value and I guess it was deemed that our need was not desperate.
Some deadwood would have needed clearing on perm deals to free up room anyway.
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Post by lurcherman on Feb 4, 2012 11:33:02 GMT
Who's out of contract this summer? Just wondering if we're waiting for a big summer clearout first  |
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Post by stokelad84 on Feb 4, 2012 11:35:27 GMT
Tonge, Soares, Davies, Fuller and I think Collins?
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 4, 2012 11:37:29 GMT
Tonge, Soares, Davies, Fuller and I think Collins? All five will leave I expect |
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Post by lurcherman on Feb 4, 2012 11:39:21 GMT
Cheers Stokelad Keep Fuller and if the rest are only on 10 grand a week  that would pay the wage of a decent midfielder. |
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Post by bolders on Feb 4, 2012 11:42:59 GMT
Tonge, Soares, Davies, Fuller and I think Collins? wasnt it said in the paper that Tonge had 18 months left? |
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Post by zigazaga on Feb 4, 2012 11:43:06 GMT
I must admit if I was PC I dont think I would trust Tone with any more of my money as he has wasted millions on players that have not contributed at all to our efforts. For some reason he allways has a reluctance to play many newly purchased players so it makes we wonder why on earth did we sign them in the first place, He also has a tendancy to pay way over the odds i.e Crouch & KJ.
I also cant undertand why after spending all this money and after all this time we still dont have any premiership quality left/right backs and a spare winger. A situation which is absolutley inexcusable in my opinion.
Why have we signed so many centre halfs? Surley Tone needs to spend the money evenly throughout each position?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 11:44:33 GMT
I must admit if I was PC I dont think I would trust Tone with any more of my money as he has wasted millions on players that have not contributed at all to our efforts. For some reason he allways has a reluctance to play many newly purchased players so it makes we wonder why on earth did we sign them in the first place, He also has a tendancy to pay way over the odds i.e Crouch & KJ. I also cant undertand why after spending all this money and after all this time we still dont have any premiership quality left/right backs and a spare winger. A situation which is absolutley inexcusable in my opinion. Why have we signed so many centre halfs? Surley Tone needs to spend the money evenly throughout each position? Suprising isn't it how much TP seems to lay it thick to the media how much he does not want to be seen wasting PC's money |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 4, 2012 11:45:13 GMT
I must admit if I was PC I dont think I would trust Tone with any more of my money as he has wasted millions on players that have not contributed at all to our efforts. For some reason he allways has a reluctance to play many newly purchased players so it makes we wonder why on earth did we sign them in the first place, He also has a tendancy to pay way over the odds i.e Crouch & KJ. I also cant undertand why after spending all this money and after all this time we still dont have any premiership quality left/right backs and a spare winger. A situation which is absolutley inexcusable in my opinion. Why have we signed so many centre halfs? Surley Tone needs to spend the money evenly throughout each position? I don't buy into this "he wasted enough money already" stuff In my opinion TP's record for money well spent stands up pretty well! |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 11:48:11 GMT
I must admit if I was PC I dont think I would trust Tone with any more of my money as he has wasted millions on players that have not contributed at all to our efforts. For some reason he allways has a reluctance to play many newly purchased players so it makes we wonder why on earth did we sign them in the first place, He also has a tendancy to pay way over the odds i.e Crouch & KJ. I also cant undertand why after spending all this money and after all this time we still dont have any premiership quality left/right backs and a spare winger. A situation which is absolutley inexcusable in my opinion. Why have we signed so many centre halfs? Surley Tone needs to spend the money evenly throughout each position? I don't buy into this "he wasted enough money already" stuff In my opinion TP's record for money well spent stands up pretty well! Of course he has spent well, but he has also wasted millions too, you cannot brush that under the carpet. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 4, 2012 11:50:59 GMT
I don't buy into this "he wasted enough money already" stuff In my opinion TP's record for money well spent stands up pretty well! Of course he has spent well, but he has also wasted millions too, you cannot brush that under the carpet. Yet it's the same with every manager ... it goes with the territory(?) |
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Post by march4 on Feb 4, 2012 11:54:14 GMT
I think Uncle Peter trusts TP with his money more than any manager in the world!!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 11:54:25 GMT
Of course he has spent well, but he has also wasted millions too, you cannot brush that under the carpet. Yet it's the same with every manager ... it goes with the territory(?) Correct but my point is and the point that alot of people seem only to happy to ignore is that he has insisted in interviews over the years that he would not buy shit so as not to waste the Peter Coates's investments.....Well he has wasted a fair amount so in theory he has lied a smidge. |
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Post by peterthornesboots on Feb 4, 2012 11:57:17 GMT
Yet it's the same with every manager ... it goes with the territory(?) Correct but my point is and the point that alot of people seem only to happy to ignore is that he has insisted in interviews over the years that he would not buy shit so as not to waste the Peter Coates's investments.....Well he has wasted a fair amount so in theory he has lied a smidge. I assume you refer to the likes of Tongue, Soares and Davies?  Yes he has made some poor signings but the vast majority have been worth value for money. I would imagine if you look at all his signings and judge how successful they were that he'd have a pretty high success ratio. |
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Post by march4 on Feb 4, 2012 12:02:30 GMT
Correct but my point is and the point that alot of people seem only to happy to ignore is that he has insisted in interviews over the years that he would not buy shit so as not to waste the Peter Coates's investments.....Well he has wasted a fair amount so in theory he has lied a smidge. I assume you refer to the likes of Tongue, Soares and Davies? Yes he has made some poor signings but the vast majority have been worth value for money. I would imagine if you look at all his signings and judge how successful they were that he'd have a pretty high success ratio. Tonge, Soares and Davies were last minute panic buys as we entered our fist season in the Prem. They are entirely understandable. If folk can only think of those 3 as wasting money then TP has an almost 100% record in the transfer market. |
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Post by rawli on Feb 4, 2012 13:21:55 GMT
I assume you refer to the likes of Tongue, Soares and Davies? Yes he has made some poor signings but the vast majority have been worth value for money. I would imagine if you look at all his signings and judge how successful they were that he'd have a pretty high success ratio. Tonge, Soares and Davies were last minute panic buys as we entered our fist season in the Prem. They are entirely understandable. If folk can only think of those 3 as wasting money then TP has an almost 100% record in the transfer market. Tuncay, Whitehead, Collins, Woodgate, Palacios (can't play in wind) are or were all wastes of money either because he won't play them or vastly overpaid for them. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 4, 2012 13:24:14 GMT
Tonge, Soares and Davies were last minute panic buys as we entered our fist season in the Prem. They are entirely understandable. If folk can only think of those 3 as wasting money then TP has an almost 100% record in the transfer market. Tuncay, Whitehead, Collins, Woodgate, Palacios (can't play in wind) are or were all wastes of money either because he won't play them or vastly overpaid for them. Oh yeah and Kitson |
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Post by potterpaul on Feb 4, 2012 13:35:23 GMT
I think Uncle Peter trusts TP with his money more than any manager in the world!! You're probably right but for the life of me can't see why, the only players who really have value (or profit) are Sorenson, Bego, Shawcross, Huth and Pennant. I really can't see value (financially) in the others. Tommy for me has been an absolute steal. |
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Post by heworksardtho on Feb 4, 2012 14:38:01 GMT
kenywne best 8 million ever to be spunked away couldnt score in tingles with £500 in his pocket, would be to idle to climb the stairs
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Post by RAF on Feb 4, 2012 15:28:01 GMT
I must admit if I was PC I dont think I would trust Tone with any more of my money as he has wasted millions on players that have not contributed at all to our efforts. For some reason he allways has a reluctance to play many newly purchased players so it makes we wonder why on earth did we sign them in the first place, He also has a tendancy to pay way over the odds i.e Crouch & KJ. I also cant undertand why after spending all this money and after all this time we still dont have any premiership quality left/right backs and a spare winger. A situation which is absolutley inexcusable in my opinion. Why have we signed so many centre halfs? Surley Tone needs to spend the money evenly throughout each position? I don't buy into this "he wasted enough money already" stuff In my opinion TP's record for money well spent stands up pretty well! Is that why apart from Wigan we have the worst goal scoring record in the Prem? H |
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Post by stanners on Feb 4, 2012 15:33:08 GMT
We're top half premier league. Our squad is almost unrecognisable from the team that got promoted. I would say that TP has done very well all things considered.
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Post by stokemark on Feb 4, 2012 17:26:37 GMT
We're top half premier league. Our squad is almost unrecognisable from the team that got promoted. I would say that TP has done very well all things considered. No we arent mate |
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Post by swampmongrel on Feb 4, 2012 17:50:12 GMT
Tonge, Soares and Davies were last minute panic buys as we entered our fist season in the Prem. They are entirely understandable. If folk can only think of those 3 as wasting money then TP has an almost 100% record in the transfer market. Tuncay, Whitehead, Collins, Woodgate, Palacios (can't play in wind) are or were all wastes of money either because he won't play them or vastly overpaid for them. Bit harsh. Tuncay - We didn't lose that much on Tuncay given the fee that Wolfsburg paid for him. Whitehead - looks expensive but that's the sort of price you pay for regular PL starters (I know that we should be looking abroad to get better value). Collins - same as Whitehead. I don't think either sigining was a disaster. Woodgate - was a free Palacios - looks to be getting better for us every week (wind permitting). He seems to require abit more pastoral care than others. Far too early to judge. Overall I think Pulis's record in the transfer market is fairly good. For every Kitson there's a Shawcross. For every Woodgate there's an Etherington. He's not a genius and he's been well backed but plenty of other managers have been well backed and have fucked it up. |
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Post by fca47 on Feb 4, 2012 17:59:16 GMT
Think it probably came down to the fact there wasn't anybody we wanted who was available. Don't think there was anybody transferred who I thought wow we could really do with them.
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that would pay the wage of a decent midfielder.
